ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[beijingwalker]

so what, do you know how many Buddhists tempe were destroyed in the history in Xinjiang?

Uighurs were Buddhists before the Islam domination, many historic sites, scriptures and old sculptures proved that.

leave Whataboutism, Talk about present.

Facts against you automatically become whataboutism.

 

[OIO]

leave Whataboutism, Talk about present.

the present is global Islam is declining.

 

[Max]

Facts against you automatically become whataboutism.

No deflecting your state terrorism by saying other country or people also committed the same crime.. is called whataboutism. There was no fact against me.

 

[beijingwalker]

No deflecting your state terrorism by saying other country or people also committed the same crime.. is called whataboutism. There was no fact against me.

We don't think they are crimes, your claim that China kill their culture was based on the fact that the so called their culture was actually forced on or being adopted by them, so they are related, we don't call this natural phenomenon a crime, you did.

 

[Indos]

Bro can you please give a summary of why Joko won again? And what is the status of Islamic parties and what their prospects are in future elections?

Joko Widodo won 54 % of votes because of so many reasons. The main reason of his winning is that he is clean and popular. He is a major of Indonesian city before and become famous due to his ability to reform the bureaucrats. He become media darling and people start to like him. When he become Jakarta governor he also make so many reform, he is also assertive leader that solve many problem in Jakarta.

The second reason of his winning is because he is quite successful in his first term as President. People see his administration as clean, he can short cut many bureaucratic procedure. Many infrastructure project are started by him and people start to feel short of easiness and convenient with all of the infrastructure project that have been completed. I think it will be quite difficult to challenge any incumbent leader that deliver his promises.

The third reason is because he is somehow try to show that he is a religious and pious leader even though comes from a nationalist party (PDI-P). He pick his vice president from a Muslim leader coming from conservative organization. He would stop talking when he heard Adzan even though he is speaking in a big conference, he also show his mother and other sisters are covering his hair. After the campaign is over he went to Mecca to perform Umroh, a week before people cast their ballot.

Many Islamist like me pick Joko Widodo because according to us he is a clean and progressive leader that can make Indonesia move forward while in the same time not showing that he is anti Islam. He is still better than Prabowo that use populism to win vote like increasing government subsidy to lower gasoline price and electric price while in the other hand increasing civil servant salary significantly. Picking Prabowo will be bad for Indonesian economy because he will burden government budget in order to get votes. Because of Jokowi rational and wise economic policy, many Islamist still vote for him.

Islamic parties won at least 30 percent of the vote in parliament.The figure looks bad if we compare it to AKP in Turkey. It is still in minority in parliament because Indonesian people tend to choose leader and not too fanatic in choosing party. Both candidates (Jokowi and Prabowo) comes from nationalist party, but Prabowo is supported by two Islamic parties and widely seen as grabbing an Islamist agenda. Prabowo wins in provinces that is well known to have population that practice Wahhabism and has strong Islamic view. Jokowi in other hand is supported by traditional Islam province. Islamic party can become huge in future if they can get popular leader who compete in presidential election. As for now, it has at least 3 potential leaders that can compete in 2024 election.

 

[OIO]

It's time to export our re-education camps to all countries for use against rebellious Islamist minority groups. Strike at the Islamists wherever they are. Your caves. Your camels. Your deserts. If you are not with us, you are against us!

1. that's no of our business
2. 're-education camps' is what we learned from Muslim countries
3. it cost too much

 

[beijingwalker]

1. that's no of our business
2. 're-education camps' is what we learned from Muslim countries
3. it cost too much

He was banned, several Chinese poster got banned recently defending Xinjiang, you and me could be the next.

 

[OIO]

He was banned, several Chinese poster got banned recently defending Xinjiang, you and me could be the next.

He doesn't understand China is different with West.
actually, both West right wing and left wing are destroying Muslim countries.

 

[Numerous]

But some of them did revolt, didn't they? How come not a single Uighur officer or soldier turned their guns against China?

Maybe some of them have. Afterall you chinese are complaining of uighur "terrorists" all the time.

He was banned, several Chinese poster got banned recently defending Xinjiang, you and me could be the next.

Ah yes, poor Feng Leng, defending xinjiang by proposing camps for the rest of the Muslim world too...

Bechara...

 

[beijingwalker]

Maybe some of them have. Afterall you chinese are complaining of uighur "terrorists" all the time.
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Who? or I remembered, they claimed a Uighur musician was tortured to death and spreaded this information all across the internet, only found out he is alive and kicking the very next day.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Are you an idiot? Graveyards are older then any infrastructure around them. Use your head

that even makes less sense. who would want to live next to a graveryard? developers want to build houses that can be sold, business 101 for you silly.

Interesting how misinformed you are...I thought Chinese knew their geography better than America or are you an exceptionally "special" case?

You have been going around abusing and BS ....But mind you, there is only so much ANYONE can tolerate...And stupidity is not something we need to!


Question should be which one came first?
IF The graveyard came 1st :- in that case the residential area should not be built on a land so sensitive to some! THAT kind of shows genocide when you disrespect another people! Chinese should know better than to disturb ancestral grave! Dont some of you pray to your ancestors? Imagine someone builds a residential area on your ancestral grave! Will you quietly weep in some corner or will you fight back?
The residential area came first : - Then China should have provided them with an area to bury their dead...Another sign towards genocide when you become insensitive to a people or decrease their basic rights such as land to be buried!

I honestly dont know why they made you a mod here..

 

[Numerous]

that even makes less sense. who would want to live next to a graveryard? developers want to build houses that can be sold, business 101 for you silly.

I don't know how Chinese society works but graveyards in cities is a common site in Muslim countries and also the west.

Have you been out of China and seen the wider world?

Who? or I remembered, they claimed a Uighur musician was tortured to death and spreaded this information all across the internet, only found out he is alive and kicking the very next day.

Has nothing to do with my post.

But well done, you only imprisoned him for so long that people thought he was dead, rather than murdered him.

 

[beijingwalker]

But well done, you only imprisoned him for so long that people thought he was dead, rather than murdered him.

That how rumor mongerers work, first they made a rumor, after being debunked, they talk about something esle, a lie is a lie. same as 3 millions are in camps.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

I don't know how Chinese society works but graveyards in cities is a common site in Muslim countries and also the west.

well that's not the case with city planning and real estate business here in China.. I know in some European countries things are like what you said though

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

that even makes less sense. who would want to live next to a graveryard? developers want to build houses that can be sold, business 101 for you silly.


I honestly dont know why they made you a mod here..

Are you actually that stupid or is there a language barrier? You dont barry your dead so dont start acting like an expert.