All new CX-1 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM) - Chinese Answer to Brahmos

[raazh]

Zhuhai Surprise: China’s Third “Russian” Supersonic ASCM

China’s 10th Zhuhai Airshow does not start until next Tuesday, but it already has one new rock-star on the Chinese military-blogosphere, the new CX-1 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM) from the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT). Already, scores of images of its full-size display mock-up show an uncanny resemblance to another famous supersonic ASCM, the Mach 2.8-3.0 speed Russian-Indian BrahMos. Both share the distinctive cone-inlet air intake, a two-stage structure and similar dimensions.
There is so far no official data yet on CX-1 and it is not clear if there is a version bound for Chinese service. Chinese reports do say its range is between 50km and 280km. This means it is likely an export model to comply with the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR). It is initially being marketed as a ground-launched anti-ship cruise missile that can be used in concert with other CALT products like the M-20 short-range ballistic missile and several artillery rockets, cued by unmanned aerial vehicles. Later versions are expected to be vertically-launched from ships and perhaps submarines.

While there is no confirmation that Russia’s NPO Mashinostroyenia sold CALT the technology from its Yakhont supersonic ASCM as it did to India to provide the basis for BrahMos, this should not be surprising. India and Russia have Russian-made NPO Mashinostroyenia 3M-54 Club supersonic terminal-stage ASCMs and Zvezda Kh-31 supersonic anti-radar/ship missiles. But China has also purchased or otherwise acquired the technology to produce its own versions, the larger and longer-range YJ-12, now in Chinese service, is based on Zvezda technology and the YJ-18 is believed to be a shorter range version of the 3M-54. So CALT’s CX-1 is likely China’s third “Russian” supersonic ASCM.

Can any Chinese member please find details and specs of this missile. Looks like China is focusing more and more on neutralizing US Naval dominance in the South China Sea .. Hope Pakistan gets a chance to buy few to increase deterrence.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

"Troll Of the Year"

 

[DirtyCop]

"Troll Of the Year"

Who is the troll?

 

[j20blackdragon]

Looks like China is focusing more and more on neutralizing US Naval dominance in the South China Sea .. Hope Pakistan gets a chance to buy few to increase deterrence.

DF-21D/HGV/HN-2000 has already neutralized US Naval dominance in the South China Sea. You won't find China's best weapons at Zhuhai Air Show. The CX-1 is for export and for trolling the Brahmos.

 

[NKVD]

Zhuhai Surprise: China’s Third “Russian” Supersonic ASCM

China’s 10th Zhuhai Airshow does not start until next Tuesday, but it already has one new rock-star on the Chinese military-blogosphere, the new CX-1 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM) from the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT). Already, scores of images of its full-size display mock-up show an uncanny resemblance to another famous supersonic ASCM, the Mach 2.8-3.0 speed Russian-Indian BrahMos. Both share the distinctive cone-inlet air intake, a two-stage structure and similar dimensions.
There is so far no official data yet on CX-1 and it is not clear if there is a version bound for Chinese service. Chinese reports do say its range is between 50km and 280km. This means it is likely an export model to comply with the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR). It is initially being marketed as a ground-launched anti-ship cruise missile that can be used in concert with other CALT products like the M-20 short-range ballistic missile and several artillery rockets, cued by unmanned aerial vehicles. Later versions are expected to be vertically-launched from ships and perhaps submarines.

While there is no confirmation that Russia’s NPO Mashinostroyenia sold CALT the technology from its Yakhont supersonic ASCM as it did to India to provide the basis for BrahMos, this should not be surprising. India and Russia have Russian-made NPO Mashinostroyenia 3M-54 Club supersonic terminal-stage ASCMs and Zvezda Kh-31 supersonic anti-radar/ship missiles. But China has also purchased or otherwise acquired the technology to produce its own versions, the larger and longer-range YJ-12, now in Chinese service, is based on Zvezda technology and the YJ-18 is believed to be a shorter range version of the 3M-54. So CALT’s CX-1 is likely China’s third “Russian” supersonic ASCM.

Can any Chinese member please find details and specs of this missile. Looks like China is focusing more and more on neutralizing US Naval dominance in the South China Sea .. Hope Pakistan gets a chance to buy few to increase deterrence.

Probably to troll cash strap nations to sell cheap chinese rip-offs

 

[Speeder 2]

all I know is that military heavyweights such as US, China Rusia look down on supersonic missiles such as CX-1 and Brahmos, except after they evolve into sth hypersonic (such as > 5mach).

This is because they are almost useless and not a real threat to other big boys with advanced AESA radar-equipped destroyers supported by AWACS, drones, sats, ... a full range of pre-warning systems.

That's why the US, Chinese and Russian navies prefer advanced low-flying "assasins"- sub-sonic missiles in general, and export supersonic ones.

Nonetheless for countries like India missiles such as Brahmos are still the "god"... the "god" prior to the arrival of the "super troll of the year CX-1" of course

CX-1 and brahmos are in general comparable on paper, due to their common ancestor - we all know who that is.

However, between these two, I'd buy CX-1 anytime of a day, cuz more reliable, more mature, more quality and likely even cheaper, lighter, even with better paint! and ... i've never heard of anything good from Made-in-India even with TOT by Russia. Actually the only thing that coming from India that can fly is the holy cow, as far as I am aware.

and BTW, another thing perhaps even more important : Brahmos uses GPS - needs permissions from both Ruskies and the Yankees when it really matters, while CX-1 is Beidou- guided.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Who is the troll?

CX-1

 

[j20blackdragon]

Probably to troll cash strap nations to sell cheap chinese rip-offs

These so-called 'cash strapped nations' are the same customers that would buy the Brahmos. They now have an alternative in the CX-1. You got trolled.

all I know is that military heavyweights such as US, China Rusia look down on supersonic missiles such as CX-1 and Brahmos, except after they evolve into sth hypersonic (such as > 5mach).

This is because they are almost useless and not a real threat to other big boys with advanced AESA radar-equipped destroyers supported by AWACS, drones, sats, ... a full range of pre-warning systems.

That's why the US, Chinese and Russian navies use sub-sonic missiles in general, and export supersonic ones.

Ramjet missiles like Brahmos/CX-1 are big, expensive, and have relatively short range for its size. The Su-30MKI can carry a single Brahmos on the centerline pylon. They are not a threat at all to Aegis ships.

 

[C130]

DF-21D/HGV/HN-2000 has already neutralized US Naval dominance in the South China Sea. You won't find China's best weapons at Zhuhai Air Show. The CX-1 is for export and for trolling the Brahmos.

really DF-21 is the bogeyman of the USN.

 

[j20blackdragon]

really DF-21 is the bogeyman of the USN.

I named three separate weapons:

1. DF-21D
2. HGV
3. HN-2000

 

[C130]

I named three separate weapons:

1. DF-21D
2. HGV
3. HN-2000

oooooooooo
1 and 2 are strapped too ballistic missles
and the HN-2000 I've never heard of.

don't you know we got alien technology in Area 51 we are 200 years of ahead of everybody.

 

[Steakhouse]

really DF-21 is the bogeyman of the USN.

Single military system will not deter US navy but with combine land base, sea base, air base subsystem then the force multiply pose a real threat for US navy in SCS. If you in the military, should fully understand the strategy behind DF21.

 

[C130]

Single military system will not deter US navy but with combine land base, sea base, air base subsystem then the force multiply pose a real threat for US navy in SCS. If you in the military, should fully understand the strategy behind DF21.

DF-21D is nothing but hype.
I would stick the true and tested anti-ship missiles sub-sonic and supersonic variety.

when you start launching ballistic missiles peoples fingers start to itch to launch ones with nukes.

 

[Steakhouse]

DF-21D is nothing but hype.

I know it all hype, I bet China rather the US military brass believe DF21 not operational. I think the majority of hype up new created by pentagon report with the existent of the DF21 and not China military confirm the existent of the DF21 dubbed as carrier killer.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

Has anyone ever wondered why the USN and USAF don't use supersonic cruise and anti-ship missiles? It isn't that they can't build them, they most certainly can, but that there are downsides to supersonic speeds. Yes, the kinetic energy of a high speed object is enough to defeat many ships without the need for a warhead and their speed complicates and shortens countermeasure responses, but the range and maneuverability of supersonic systems compromises their overall effectiveness. Subsonic systems such as the HN-2000 and its US counterpart the Tomahawk have long-ranges, can be reprogrammed for different targets mid-flight or have their flights terminated, they can loiter and look for targets, and they can carry massive payloads. Supersonic missiles have smaller payloads, but this tends to be offset by their kinetic energy, shorter ranges and shorter flight times which means that the missile cannot be reprogrammed for a different target. The Russians, seeing the limitations of supersonic missiles, have even begun to use subsonic systems with a last minute high-speed dash (the Klub system) instead of true supersonic missiles. Both have their limitations and each can be easily defeated. The CX-1 and similar systems are not the boogeyman that people claim they are either.