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ALGERIA AND EGYPT SENT THEIR RESPECTIVE AIR FORCES TO LIBYA

It is part of the general conflict going on in Libya i.e forces loyal to General Haftar against Ansar Alsharia and its offshoots, there hasn't been any news attributed to Egyptian and Algerian strikes, likely due to the sensitivity of the matter,

Retired general launches war against Islamists in eastern Libya - IHS Jane's 360
http://www.janes.com/article/41023/retired-general-launches-war-against-islamists-in-eastern-libya

Those 'forces loyal to General Hafter' attempted a coup in Libya which Egypt/Saudi Arabia/UAE are all involved in.

Six Egyptian border guards killed: army spokesman| Reuters

21 Egyptian border guards killed by gunmen - World - CBC News

30 dead soldiers is enough of a cause to level every militant scumbag in Libya. Never mind the continued smuggling of arms and people into Egypt.

Dude, get fucking real. Everyone knows that Egypt meddled in Libyan affairs long before this. It's part of Egypt/Saudi/UAE project in the region to get rid of democratically elected Islamic governments.

This is why Egypt is supporting the national forces alliance PM Mahmoud Jibril. Guess where he's residing? Right, UAE!


Religion is the their primary motivator. It is their rudimentary and fundamentalist understanding of Islam that in their eyes justifies what they are doing and provides them with the motivation they need to continue fighting. Religion is a massive part of this and it must be addressed if there is to be an adequate solution to militant Islam.

No one cares about your scripted pro-dictator rhetoric. This is just hogwash to try convincing the general public which isn't informed to advance their agenda.
 
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For Muslim viewers, read this to understand the whores/NATO/Israel agenda, instead being lectured by this pathological liar and deceiver. It's a war against Islam, they don't want Islam to be powerful. If you listened to this Egyptian clown you would think a elected government is defending itself against separatists. That's how this liar makes it sound like. They only want whores in power.

Haftar Leads A Coup: A General’s Odd War on the Muslim Brotherhood | Palestine Chronicle

On 16 May, Libya’s rogue general Khalifa Haftar staged several bloody attacks against other Libyan militias in the name of eradicating terrorism by leading a paramilitary force evasively named the Libyan National Army. His well-equipped brigades were rapidly joined by officers from national army bases in the eastern parts of the country.

Units from the air force also joined in, along with tribal gunmen and other militias, particularly the strong and notorious Zintan militia. The well-coordinated attacks, named Operation Karama, or Dignity, resulted in heavy casualties.

When Karama is Not Dignity

Then, with unprecedented audacity, on Thursday he struck the parliament, sending Libyan lawmakers from the General National Council (GNC) fleeing for their lives. Among his demands: the dismissal of the parliament and the judiciary to take control of the country’s affairs until the next elections scheduled for 25 June. The man is supposedly a proponent for a democratically elected civilian government, a contradiction that is becoming quite common in post-‘Arab Spring’ Middle East.

During the attack on the parliament and the seizure of government buildings, Haftar’s forces were backed by warplanes and helicopters. The show of force was massive, even for post-rebellion and NATO-led war Libya where guns are available in abundance. Needless to say, Haftar is not a rogue general acting alone. He is supported by former Libyan Prime Minister Ali Zeidan, and has strong, rich Libyan and Arab backers. His long history of relations with the CIA is neither “misleading” or “old news” as suggested by a recent article in the UK’s Guardian newspaper. But what is his story? And will he succeed in becoming the Libyan equivalent of Egypt’s General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi?

The February ‘Coup’

Haftar has been actively pursuing a similar media discourse to that of Egypt’s Sisi, who seized power after overthrowing the democratically elected government of Mohammed Morsi in July 2013. Sisi had masked his action in a lexicon that is predicated on a very simple logic: associating the Muslim Brotherhood with terrorism, and vowing to crush the “terrorists” who are supposedly threatening Egypt’s national security. In a series of interviews, including one with US network Fox News, Sisi warned of the danger of Islamic terrorism coming from eastern Libya, and called for US military support. The “national security” argument is helping Sisi shift the focus from urban centres where Egyptian youth has staged daily and nightly protests demanding the restoration of democracy to the periphery – as in Hamas in Gaza, militants in Sinai, terrorists in Libya, and even Sudan.

Haftar is also out to crush the Islamists, but the problem is that Libya’s Muslim Brotherhood is hardly the dominant political force in that country. Haftar knows well that Islamic-leaning parties in Libya are not all one and the same. Yet, he seemed keen on emphasising the Brotherhood as a target behind his ongoing war. He told Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper in an interview published in May that he intends to “purge” Libya of Muslim Brotherhood members. They are a “malignant disease that is seeking to spread throughout the bones of the Arab world”. He even formed a Libyan counterpart of Egypt’s Supreme Council of the Armed Forces.

The Libyans are certainly not Haftar’s target audience. Their contention is with the security chaos that has afflicted their country due to warring militias following the NATO-backed victory over Muammar Gaddafi. In fact, Haftar is himself leading some of these militias, and his “army” has contributed to the political uncertainty and violence in Libya. The former Libyan general is clearly attempting to exploit Egypt’s woes to his advantage, but is also vying for attention from various western governments – especially Washington that until now seems rather reluctant to criticise Haftar’s attempted coup.

In fact, Washington’s indecision is similar to its silence when Haftar had attempted to stage the first coup last February, but failed. Afterwards, in a televised speech, Haftar denounced the government, and announced his own “initiative”, a roadmap of sorts that saw the disbanding of parliament. Few took him serious and top government officials mocked his coup attempt. One described it as “ridiculous”. But consequently, many discovered the name Haftar, and some became keenly interested to learn more.

Did the Americans Know?

Ashour Shamis is a former partner of Haftar. Both were members of the US-funded Libyan National Army in the 1980s. In a recent interview with the Guardian he remarked, “I don’t think something like this can happen in Libya and the Americans would not know about it.” According to Shamis, the Americans “want to see how much momentum Haftar has and how far he goes.” Indeed, Haftar is doing a great deal to get Washington’s attention, which has somewhat divested from Libya since the killing of its ambassador there and three others in September 2012.

To win favour with Washington, Haftar’s list of enemies also includes Ansar al-Sharia, which along with other militias in Benghazi was accused of plotting the attack against the US embassy. But it shouldn’t be too difficult for Haftar to gain Washington’s trust. In fact, he already has. It is no secret that Haftar has had strong backing from the US Central Intelligence Agency for nearly three decades.

The man has been branded and rebranded throughout his colourful and sometimes mysterious history. He fought as an officer in the Chadian-Libyan conflict, and was captured alongside his entire unit of 600 men. During his time in prison, Chad experienced a regime change (both regimes were backed by French and US intelligence) and Haftar and his men were released per US request as he was moved to another African country. While some chose to return home, others knew well what would await them in Libya, for reasons explained by the New York Times on 17 May, 1991.

“For two years, United States officials have been shopping around for a home for about 350 Libyan soldiers who cannot return to their country because American intelligence officials had mobilised them into a commando force to overthrow Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, the Libyan leader,” NYT reported. “Now, the Administration has given up trying to find another country that will accept the Libyans and has decided to bring them to the United States.”

Haftar was then relocated to a Virginia suburb in the early 1990s, where he settled very close to the CIA headquarters in Langley. The news is murky about his exact activities living near Washington DC, except for his ties to Libyan opposition forces, which of course operated according to US diktats.

In his thorough report, published in the Business Insider, Russ Baker traced much of Haftar’s activities since his split from Gaddafi and adoption by the CIA. “A Congressional Research Service report of December 1996 named Haftar as the head of the (National Front For The Salvation of Libya) NFSL’s military wing, the Libyan National Army. After he joined the exile group, the CRS report added, Haftar began “preparing an army to march on Libya”. The NFSL, the CSR said, is in exile “with many of its members in the United States”.

It took nearly 15 years for Haftar to march on Libya. It also took a massive war that was purported to support a popular uprising. Although he clearly attempts to brand himself as a potential Sisi, Haftar, per Baker’s description, is the Libyan equivalent of Iraq’s Ahmed Chalabi, a discredited figure with strong allies in Washington DC, Chalabi was sent to post-Saddam Iraq to lead the “democratization” process. Instead, he helped set the stage for the calamity under way there.

It is no wonder why Haftar’s return was a major source of controversy. Since the news of his CIA affiliation was no big secret, his return to Libya to join the rebels in March 2011 caused much confusion. Almost immediately, he was announced by a military spokesman as the rebels’ new commander, only for the announcement to be dismissed by the National Transitional Council as false. The NTC was largely a composition of equally enigmatic characters that had little presence within Libya’s national consciousness. Haftar found himself as the third man on the military ladder, which he grudgingly accepted.

The Right Man for Libya?

Haftar’s legacy has been linked to military coups as early as 1969, when he, along with a few soldiers, helped Gaddafi overthrow King Idris. Between then and the last two coups, he was, and perhaps still is, affiliated with the CIA. But Libya is gripped by extreme violence and is hostage to the whims of militias, some tribal, others affiliated with small towns and large cities – Misrata, Zintan and so on – and others are loosely affiliated with government ministries. In times of such befuddling strife, some people might be ready to accept feeble alternatives. Despite his dubious legacy, Haftar might oddly enough appear to some as Libya’s strong man.

As expected, many are not convinced. Powerful militias are also lining up against Haftar. Misrata’s 235 militia brigades are ready to fight. They have already deployed near Tripoli.

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You're either with God/Islam or you're with whores/NATO/Israel.
 
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Those 'forces loyal to General Hafter' attempted a coup in Libya which Egypt/Saudi Arabia/UAE are all involved in.

According to whom exactly? you?

Libya has seen militia after militia try to seize power by force, the General isn't even targeting state institutions. The military itself which is under the jurisdiction of the new Libyan government is loyal to Haftar, as are other militias and they are fighting Islamist militias (who are or were also under the Libyan governments payroll).

Ask any Libyan if the government had any influence or power in Libya, they will tell you unequivocally that the militias rule everything, whether it was a liberal government or islamist government.

Dude, get fucking real.

Nice language. Wonder what Islam says about that.

Everyone knows that Egypt meddled in Libyan affairs long before this.

And Libyan smugglers had killed Egyptian border guards before this and smuggled arms before this. Yet, that doesn't factor at all in your thinking does it.

It's part of Egypt/Saudi/UAE project in the region to get rid of democratically elected Islamic governments.

Then why would Egypt accommodate the Libyan cabinet in Cairo, give them tours of the AOI, negotiate arms deals, and agree to train a significant amount of its troops and officer corps. In essence playing the same role as Turkey, but you wouldn't talk smack about them would you.

This is why Egypt is supporting the national forces alliance PM Mahmoud Jibril. Guess where he's residing? Right, UAE!

The Egyptian government has not released any statement supporting any side over the other nor has it tried to interfere in Libyan political affairs, it is carrying out a limited air operation against training camps and militants that threaten its eastern border, it has not provided CAS for Haftars group, nor has it struck any politcal parties HQs.

No one cares about your scripted pro-dictator rhetoric. This is just hogwash to try convincing the general public which isn't informed to advance their agenda.

So you don't agree that militants have a warped vision of Islam because of their theological illiteracy?
 
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@Frogman

This article embarrasses you and your kind. I don't need to do any talking. He exposes liars.

Haftar Leads A Coup: A General’s Odd War on the Muslim Brotherhood | Palestine Chronicle

On 16 May, Libya’s rogue general Khalifa Haftar staged several bloody attacks against other Libyan militias in the name of eradicating terrorism by leading a paramilitary force evasively named the Libyan National Army. His well-equipped brigades were rapidly joined by officers from national army bases in the eastern parts of the country.

Units from the air force also joined in, along with tribal gunmen and other militias, particularly the strong and notorious Zintan militia. The well-coordinated attacks, named Operation Karama, or Dignity, resulted in heavy casualties.

When Karama is Not Dignity

Then, with unprecedented audacity, on Thursday he struck the parliament, sending Libyan lawmakers from the General National Council (GNC) fleeing for their lives. Among his demands: the dismissal of the parliament and the judiciary to take control of the country’s affairs until the next elections scheduled for 25 June. The man is supposedly a proponent for a democratically elected civilian government, a contradiction that is becoming quite common in post-‘Arab Spring’ Middle East.

During the attack on the parliament and the seizure of government buildings, Haftar’s forces were backed by warplanes and helicopters. The show of force was massive, even for post-rebellion and NATO-led war Libya where guns are available in abundance. Needless to say, Haftar is not a rogue general acting alone. He is supported by former Libyan Prime Minister Ali Zeidan, and has strong, rich Libyan and Arab backers. His long history of relations with the CIA is neither “misleading” or “old news” as suggested by a recent article in the UK’s Guardian newspaper. But what is his story? And will he succeed in becoming the Libyan equivalent of Egypt’s General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi?

The February ‘Coup’

Haftar has been actively pursuing a similar media discourse to that of Egypt’s Sisi, who seized power after overthrowing the democratically elected government of Mohammed Morsi in July 2013. Sisi had masked his action in a lexicon that is predicated on a very simple logic: associating the Muslim Brotherhood with terrorism, and vowing to crush the “terrorists” who are supposedly threatening Egypt’s national security. In a series of interviews, including one with US network Fox News, Sisi warned of the danger of Islamic terrorism coming from eastern Libya, and called for US military support. The “national security” argument is helping Sisi shift the focus from urban centres where Egyptian youth has staged daily and nightly protests demanding the restoration of democracy to the periphery – as in Hamas in Gaza, militants in Sinai, terrorists in Libya, and even Sudan.

Haftar is also out to crush the Islamists, but the problem is that Libya’s Muslim Brotherhood is hardly the dominant political force in that country. Haftar knows well that Islamic-leaning parties in Libya are not all one and the same. Yet, he seemed keen on emphasising the Brotherhood as a target behind his ongoing war. He told Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper in an interview published in May that he intends to “purge” Libya of Muslim Brotherhood members. They are a “malignant disease that is seeking to spread throughout the bones of the Arab world”. He even formed a Libyan counterpart of Egypt’s Supreme Council of the Armed Forces.

The Libyans are certainly not Haftar’s target audience. Their contention is with the security chaos that has afflicted their country due to warring militias following the NATO-backed victory over Muammar Gaddafi. In fact, Haftar is himself leading some of these militias, and his “army” has contributed to the political uncertainty and violence in Libya. The former Libyan general is clearly attempting to exploit Egypt’s woes to his advantage, but is also vying for attention from various western governments – especially Washington that until now seems rather reluctant to criticise Haftar’s attempted coup.

In fact, Washington’s indecision is similar to its silence when Haftar had attempted to stage the first coup last February, but failed. Afterwards, in a televised speech, Haftar denounced the government, and announced his own “initiative”, a roadmap of sorts that saw the disbanding of parliament. Few took him serious and top government officials mocked his coup attempt. One described it as “ridiculous”. But consequently, many discovered the name Haftar, and some became keenly interested to learn more.

Did the Americans Know?

Ashour Shamis is a former partner of Haftar. Both were members of the US-funded Libyan National Army in the 1980s. In a recent interview with the Guardian he remarked, “I don’t think something like this can happen in Libya and the Americans would not know about it.” According to Shamis, the Americans “want to see how much momentum Haftar has and how far he goes.” Indeed, Haftar is doing a great deal to get Washington’s attention, which has somewhat divested from Libya since the killing of its ambassador there and three others in September 2012.

To win favour with Washington, Haftar’s list of enemies also includes Ansar al-Sharia, which along with other militias in Benghazi was accused of plotting the attack against the US embassy. But it shouldn’t be too difficult for Haftar to gain Washington’s trust. In fact, he already has. It is no secret that Haftar has had strong backing from the US Central Intelligence Agency for nearly three decades.

The man has been branded and rebranded throughout his colourful and sometimes mysterious history. He fought as an officer in the Chadian-Libyan conflict, and was captured alongside his entire unit of 600 men. During his time in prison, Chad experienced a regime change (both regimes were backed by French and US intelligence) and Haftar and his men were released per US request as he was moved to another African country. While some chose to return home, others knew well what would await them in Libya, for reasons explained by the New York Times on 17 May, 1991.

“For two years, United States officials have been shopping around for a home for about 350 Libyan soldiers who cannot return to their country because American intelligence officials had mobilised them into a commando force to overthrow Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, the Libyan leader,” NYT reported. “Now, the Administration has given up trying to find another country that will accept the Libyans and has decided to bring them to the United States.”

Haftar was then relocated to a Virginia suburb in the early 1990s, where he settled very close to the CIA headquarters in Langley. The news is murky about his exact activities living near Washington DC, except for his ties to Libyan opposition forces, which of course operated according to US diktats.

In his thorough report, published in the Business Insider, Russ Baker traced much of Haftar’s activities since his split from Gaddafi and adoption by the CIA. “A Congressional Research Service report of December 1996 named Haftar as the head of the (National Front For The Salvation of Libya) NFSL’s military wing, the Libyan National Army. After he joined the exile group, the CRS report added, Haftar began “preparing an army to march on Libya”. The NFSL, the CSR said, is in exile “with many of its members in the United States”.

It took nearly 15 years for Haftar to march on Libya. It also took a massive war that was purported to support a popular uprising. Although he clearly attempts to brand himself as a potential Sisi, Haftar, per Baker’s description, is the Libyan equivalent of Iraq’s Ahmed Chalabi, a discredited figure with strong allies in Washington DC, Chalabi was sent to post-Saddam Iraq to lead the “democratization” process. Instead, he helped set the stage for the calamity under way there.

It is no wonder why Haftar’s return was a major source of controversy. Since the news of his CIA affiliation was no big secret, his return to Libya to join the rebels in March 2011 caused much confusion. Almost immediately, he was announced by a military spokesman as the rebels’ new commander, only for the announcement to be dismissed by the National Transitional Council as false. The NTC was largely a composition of equally enigmatic characters that had little presence within Libya’s national consciousness. Haftar found himself as the third man on the military ladder, which he grudgingly accepted.

The Right Man for Libya?

Haftar’s legacy has been linked to military coups as early as 1969, when he, along with a few soldiers, helped Gaddafi overthrow King Idris. Between then and the last two coups, he was, and perhaps still is, affiliated with the CIA. But Libya is gripped by extreme violence and is hostage to the whims of militias, some tribal, others affiliated with small towns and large cities – Misrata, Zintan and so on – and others are loosely affiliated with government ministries. In times of such befuddling strife, some people might be ready to accept feeble alternatives. Despite his dubious legacy, Haftar might oddly enough appear to some as Libya’s strong man.

As expected, many are not convinced. Powerful militias are also lining up against Haftar. Misrata’s 235 militia brigades are ready to fight. They have already deployed near Tripoli.

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You can blabber all you want. What matters is that people understand what's the real story here.
 
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@Frogman

This article embarrasses you and your kind. I don't need to do any talking. He exposes liars.

Haftar Leads A Coup: A General’s Odd War on the Muslim Brotherhood | Palestine Chronicle

On 16 May, Libya’s rogue general Khalifa Haftar staged several bloody attacks against other Libyan militias in the name of eradicating terrorism by leading a paramilitary force evasively named the Libyan National Army. His well-equipped brigades were rapidly joined by officers from national army bases in the eastern parts of the country.

Units from the air force also joined in, along with tribal gunmen and other militias, particularly the strong and notorious Zintan militia. The well-coordinated attacks, named Operation Karama, or Dignity, resulted in heavy casualties.

When Karama is Not Dignity

Then, with unprecedented audacity, on Thursday he struck the parliament, sending Libyan lawmakers from the General National Council (GNC) fleeing for their lives. Among his demands: the dismissal of the parliament and the judiciary to take control of the country’s affairs until the next elections scheduled for 25 June. The man is supposedly a proponent for a democratically elected civilian government, a contradiction that is becoming quite common in post-‘Arab Spring’ Middle East.

During the attack on the parliament and the seizure of government buildings, Haftar’s forces were backed by warplanes and helicopters. The show of force was massive, even for post-rebellion and NATO-led war Libya where guns are available in abundance. Needless to say, Haftar is not a rogue general acting alone. He is supported by former Libyan Prime Minister Ali Zeidan, and has strong, rich Libyan and Arab backers. His long history of relations with the CIA is neither “misleading” or “old news” as suggested by a recent article in the UK’s Guardian newspaper. But what is his story? And will he succeed in becoming the Libyan equivalent of Egypt’s General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi?

The February ‘Coup’

Haftar has been actively pursuing a similar media discourse to that of Egypt’s Sisi, who seized power after overthrowing the democratically elected government of Mohammed Morsi in July 2013. Sisi had masked his action in a lexicon that is predicated on a very simple logic: associating the Muslim Brotherhood with terrorism, and vowing to crush the “terrorists” who are supposedly threatening Egypt’s national security. In a series of interviews, including one with US network Fox News, Sisi warned of the danger of Islamic terrorism coming from eastern Libya, and called for US military support. The “national security” argument is helping Sisi shift the focus from urban centres where Egyptian youth has staged daily and nightly protests demanding the restoration of democracy to the periphery – as in Hamas in Gaza, militants in Sinai, terrorists in Libya, and even Sudan.

Haftar is also out to crush the Islamists, but the problem is that Libya’s Muslim Brotherhood is hardly the dominant political force in that country. Haftar knows well that Islamic-leaning parties in Libya are not all one and the same. Yet, he seemed keen on emphasising the Brotherhood as a target behind his ongoing war. He told Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper in an interview published in May that he intends to “purge” Libya of Muslim Brotherhood members. They are a “malignant disease that is seeking to spread throughout the bones of the Arab world”. He even formed a Libyan counterpart of Egypt’s Supreme Council of the Armed Forces.

The Libyans are certainly not Haftar’s target audience. Their contention is with the security chaos that has afflicted their country due to warring militias following the NATO-backed victory over Muammar Gaddafi. In fact, Haftar is himself leading some of these militias, and his “army” has contributed to the political uncertainty and violence in Libya. The former Libyan general is clearly attempting to exploit Egypt’s woes to his advantage, but is also vying for attention from various western governments – especially Washington that until now seems rather reluctant to criticise Haftar’s attempted coup.

In fact, Washington’s indecision is similar to its silence when Haftar had attempted to stage the first coup last February, but failed. Afterwards, in a televised speech, Haftar denounced the government, and announced his own “initiative”, a roadmap of sorts that saw the disbanding of parliament. Few took him serious and top government officials mocked his coup attempt. One described it as “ridiculous”. But consequently, many discovered the name Haftar, and some became keenly interested to learn more.

Did the Americans Know?

Ashour Shamis is a former partner of Haftar. Both were members of the US-funded Libyan National Army in the 1980s. In a recent interview with the Guardian he remarked, “I don’t think something like this can happen in Libya and the Americans would not know about it.” According to Shamis, the Americans “want to see how much momentum Haftar has and how far he goes.” Indeed, Haftar is doing a great deal to get Washington’s attention, which has somewhat divested from Libya since the killing of its ambassador there and three others in September 2012.

To win favour with Washington, Haftar’s list of enemies also includes Ansar al-Sharia, which along with other militias in Benghazi was accused of plotting the attack against the US embassy. But it shouldn’t be too difficult for Haftar to gain Washington’s trust. In fact, he already has. It is no secret that Haftar has had strong backing from the US Central Intelligence Agency for nearly three decades.

The man has been branded and rebranded throughout his colourful and sometimes mysterious history. He fought as an officer in the Chadian-Libyan conflict, and was captured alongside his entire unit of 600 men. During his time in prison, Chad experienced a regime change (both regimes were backed by French and US intelligence) and Haftar and his men were released per US request as he was moved to another African country. While some chose to return home, others knew well what would await them in Libya, for reasons explained by the New York Times on 17 May, 1991.

“For two years, United States officials have been shopping around for a home for about 350 Libyan soldiers who cannot return to their country because American intelligence officials had mobilised them into a commando force to overthrow Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, the Libyan leader,” NYT reported. “Now, the Administration has given up trying to find another country that will accept the Libyans and has decided to bring them to the United States.”

Haftar was then relocated to a Virginia suburb in the early 1990s, where he settled very close to the CIA headquarters in Langley. The news is murky about his exact activities living near Washington DC, except for his ties to Libyan opposition forces, which of course operated according to US diktats.

In his thorough report, published in the Business Insider, Russ Baker traced much of Haftar’s activities since his split from Gaddafi and adoption by the CIA. “A Congressional Research Service report of December 1996 named Haftar as the head of the (National Front For The Salvation of Libya) NFSL’s military wing, the Libyan National Army. After he joined the exile group, the CRS report added, Haftar began “preparing an army to march on Libya”. The NFSL, the CSR said, is in exile “with many of its members in the United States”.

It took nearly 15 years for Haftar to march on Libya. It also took a massive war that was purported to support a popular uprising. Although he clearly attempts to brand himself as a potential Sisi, Haftar, per Baker’s description, is the Libyan equivalent of Iraq’s Ahmed Chalabi, a discredited figure with strong allies in Washington DC, Chalabi was sent to post-Saddam Iraq to lead the “democratization” process. Instead, he helped set the stage for the calamity under way there.

It is no wonder why Haftar’s return was a major source of controversy. Since the news of his CIA affiliation was no big secret, his return to Libya to join the rebels in March 2011 caused much confusion. Almost immediately, he was announced by a military spokesman as the rebels’ new commander, only for the announcement to be dismissed by the National Transitional Council as false. The NTC was largely a composition of equally enigmatic characters that had little presence within Libya’s national consciousness. Haftar found himself as the third man on the military ladder, which he grudgingly accepted.

The Right Man for Libya?

Haftar’s legacy has been linked to military coups as early as 1969, when he, along with a few soldiers, helped Gaddafi overthrow King Idris. Between then and the last two coups, he was, and perhaps still is, affiliated with the CIA. But Libya is gripped by extreme violence and is hostage to the whims of militias, some tribal, others affiliated with small towns and large cities – Misrata, Zintan and so on – and others are loosely affiliated with government ministries. In times of such befuddling strife, some people might be ready to accept feeble alternatives. Despite his dubious legacy, Haftar might oddly enough appear to some as Libya’s strong man.

As expected, many are not convinced. Powerful militias are also lining up against Haftar. Misrata’s 235 militia brigades are ready to fight. They have already deployed near Tripoli.

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You can blabber all you want. What matters is that people understand what's the real story here.

Last time I checked, the same Islamist's who you claim are against the Zionists/whores/NATO/DIPSY were the very same recipients of NATO air power in order to remove Muammar Gaddafi (without which they would have been mince meat), and are also the same ones who are appealing for international intervention this time round, puzzling isn't it.
 
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Last time I checked, the same Islamist's who you claim are against the Zionists/whores/NATO/DIPSY were the very same recipients of NATO air power in order to remove Muammar Gaddafi (without which they would have been mince meat), and are also the same ones who are appealing for international intervention this time round, puzzling isn't it.

No I aren't. The article is specific in which democratically elected Islamists it's speaking of. Not about ansar al sharia. Ones appealing for international intervention is the general who attempted a coup.
 
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No I aren't. The article is specific in which democratically elected Islamists it's speaking of. Not about ansar al sharia. Ones appealing for international intervention is the general who attempted a coup.

The article provides no link between Egypt/UAE/Saudi and General Haftar, if you knew about Egyptian-Libyan relations during the Gaddafi era you would know we wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

The Egyptian forces are not targeting government affiliated groups, Ansar Alsharia has nothing (official) to do with the Libyan government nor do weapons smugglers.

The current government has called for international intervention and aid.

Libyan government appeals for international aid as it struggles to impose order | euronews, world news
 
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The article provides no link between Egypt/UAE/Saudi and General Haftar, if you knew about Egyptian-Libyan relations during the Gaddafi era you would know we wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

The Egyptian forces are not targeting government affiliated groups, Ansar Alsharia has nothing (official) to do with the Libyan government nor do weapons smugglers.

The current government has called for international intervention and aid.

Cool story.
 
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For Muslim viewers, read this to understand the whores/NATO/Israel agenda, instead being lectured by this pathological liar and deceiver. It's a war against Islam, they don't want Islam to be powerful. If you listened to this Egyptian clown you would think a elected government is defending itself against separatists. That's how this liar makes it sound like. They only want whores in power.
Dude, get fucking real. Everyone knows that Egypt meddled in Libyan affairs long before this. It's part of Egypt/Saudi/UAE project in the region to get rid of democratically elected Islamic governments.

This is why Egypt is supporting the national forces alliance PM Mahmoud Jibril. Guess where he's residing? Right, UAE!




No one cares about your scripted pro-dictator rhetoric. This is just hogwash to try convincing the general public which isn't informed to advance their agenda.
Your last sentence is disgusting, you sound like a Zio-crusader. Don't throw slurs around like that. You don't understand what Jihad is and insulting Jihad is insulting God and his Prophet.
Okay brat, take 5. Who the the freaking phuck are calling liar and disgusting? You? Seriously. The guy has been very decent and modest with you while you have been acting psychopath terrorist. This is so annoying. Behave!
 
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Okay brat, take 5. Who the the freaking phuck are calling liar and disgusting? You? Seriously. The guy has been very decent and modest with you while you have been acting psychopath terrorist. This is so annoying. Behave!

Every decent Muslim in the world considers both of you liars. It's not rocket science to see the dictator anti-Islam pro Israel apologists here. Such as completely misrepresenting the situation in Libya. That's disgusting.
 
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Every decent Muslim in the world considers both of you liars. It's not rocket science to see the dictator anti-Islam pro Israel apologists here. Such as completely misrepresenting the situation in Libya. That's disgusting.
Waw, "every decent Muslim", now you are the grand representative of 1.5 billion Muslims. It's up to you to decide who is Muslim and who kaffir, you are the well known lying liar and call all people who oppose you liars. You terrorize people here all the time, you call people Kaffirs all the time, that's called terrorism. Please seek therapy.
 
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Every decent Muslim in the world considers both of you liars. It's not rocket science to see the dictator anti-Islam pro Israel apologists here. Such as completely misrepresenting the situation in Libya. That's disgusting.

Dude, you said it was Haftar calling for international aid, when it is the national government doing so.

You said IS had nothing to do with what's going on in Libya when Ansar Alsharia affiliated themselves with IS and the new "Caliph". You are unaware that Hafatr's militias were under the payroll of the government to keep order in the areas they controlled as are other militias now fighting alongside or against Haftar.

You still haven't provided any clear evidence which links Egypt with Haftar nor can you prove that we used our military assets to further his agenda.

We may be misrepresenting the situation in Libya, however, you don't even know what the hell is happening in Libya (as proven by the above) so what are you doing!?

Worst of all you completely disregard the death of Egyptian soldiers, when Egyptians do not disregard the death of Palestinian fighters or civilians.
 
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You terrorize people here all the time

o_O

you call people Kaffirs all the time, that's called terrorism.

o_O

Saudi/Egypt/UAE camp which is anti-MB supports Israel, supports dictatorship, supports separating Islam from state, support corruption(Homosexuality, belly dancers, fornication). While NATO/Israel supports them in their actions against Islamic democracies in the Arab world.

On the other hand, MB emulates our Prophet much more than any of this camp does. It's not rocket science.
 
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Saudi/Egypt/UAE camp which is anti-MB supports Israel, supports dictatorship, supports separating Islam from state, support corruption(Homosexuality, belly dancers, fornication). While NATO/Israel supports them in their actions against Islamic democracies in the Arab world.

On the other hand, MB emulates our Prophet much more than any of this camp does. It's not rocket science.

You are a complete fruitloop :laughcry::crazy:
 
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