Al-Qaeda warns India of new attacks

[Destructlord]

I really dont understand this stability concept...How is US stabilizing the region..By waging war against innocents...by bombing ad killing women n children..it was more peaceful when Taliban was in power in Afghanistan..Atleast we were living in peace..Taliban is any day better than US

I dont agree with the U.S "ways", But Taliban and Al-Qaeda usage ends with the possible retreat of U.S from Afghanistan, Then they will be a threat for the stability of the middile-east! If U.S stay in Afghanistan, Then the both sides will get weaker... Even there is a possibility that U.S collapse, Just like Soviet did!

 

[roadrunner]

the next time Pakistan get p'd o at America for questioning Pakistan's commitment to the War on Terror and decides to rain Hellfires over NWFP killing 6-year old girls in its path without informing Pakistan, it would do you well to remember Pakistan's stand wrt Taliban

and you blame the world for questioning Pakistan's commitment to eradicating the Taliban/Al-Qaeda menace and complain when America witholds payments and attaches payment to results obtained

KIlling 6 year old girls is the Indian way, not the Pakistani way.

Even if Pakistan Army were fighting side by side with the Taliban, the 6 year old innocent girl is not a legitimate target, unless an Indian or American are in control.

The fact of the matter is this. The US could leave tomorrow. In Pakistan's position, I would do what's in my interest. It's no skin off the US's nose if they cause havoc half way round the world and then flee. Pakistan will be left with an extremely pissed Taliban. That is not in its interests.

It's very simple. Prove the Taliban can be crushed. Start blaming Pakistan for this and that, show that you're being defeated by the Taliban, and Pakistan would be silly to piss off the Taliban.

Pakistan has already done a hell of a lot in the WoT. It's reward has been pittance in money, and the US has failed to stop people crossing the border and destabilizing Pakistan.

 

[S-2]

I've allowed for the plausible but equivocation-

"The Bush administration has withheld enough information from the American people for lack of awareness over a tacit deal to be plausible - there will always be classified information governments just cannot share. The GoP after all still strongly denies any agreement, tacit or otherwise, over the drone strikes."

coupled with speculation on your gov't and ours about PREDATOR still doesn't offer a rationale for why it's in America's interest to promote the continuence of Mullah Omar's extended guest residence at his captol-in-exile, Quetta. Further, it's not as though the good mullah is seeking discourse with ISAF. Hasn't he stated that negotiations can only BEGIN after NATO has departed Afghanistan.

This is a guy who thinks he's been dealt a winning hand.

"The US knows about the Shura, and only recently has there been muted talk about possibly going after them, tempered with counter arguments that they provide no tangible benefit to the insurgency."

Downtown Quetta ain't the place to be sniping with HELLFIRES. There's little we can do in Quetta. I'm not sure that there's much YOU can do in Quetta without open conquest. My sense is that particular city government operates by tacit consent from the taliban. Talk about your "deals". I read somewhere that Baluchistan remains a particularly thorny place for the ISI to even make inroads- whether Baluchi or Pashtu. I don't know.

You and I speculate on PREDATOR that a "deal" is in play. Key is "speculate" and that we've concurrence. We don't here. There aren't reasons which I can see that make sense.

Perhaps you can highlight them for me in ways I can better understand?

 

[Neo]

Indian official says Al Qaeda involved in attacks​

NEW DELHI, Feb 11: The head of India’s elite National Security Guard (NSG) that spearheaded the counter-attack in Mumbai’s terror nightmare seems to have sown confusion here by claiming on Wednesday that Al Qaeda was among the groups involved in the attacks.

“The Mumbai terror attack was an audacious attempt by the Taliban, Al Qaeda and LeT combine to shape policies of three sovereign nations that include the oldest and the largest democracy,” NSG Director General J. K. Dutt told an international seminar organised by the National Bomb Data centre.

“There is growing concern over the convergence of the objectives of terrorist organisations such as Al Qaeda and LeT. The Mumbai terror attack of November 26 last year represents this convergence of interests,” Mr Dutt said.

Press Trust of India said the televised remarks had reportedly not gone well with the Home Ministry officials as “it could be seen as sensationalising the attack by bringing in Al Qaeda’s name”.

“Immediately, the NSG machinery swung into action for an apparent damage control,” PTI said, adding that the director general of the force himself was reported to have called the television reporters present at the seminar being held at Manesar, near the Indian capital, to “issue a clarification”.

In his clarification, he said the comments were made in the context of the global scenario of terrorism.

Mr Dutt will be demitting office at the end of this month. His comments came a day after a video recording showed a top Al Qaeda commander warning India of more Mumbai-style terror attacks if it tried to attack Pakistan.

Mr Dutt, who led the commando operation during Mumbai attacks, said: “With the resurgence of the Taliban the region astride the Durand line — the international border between Pakistan and Afghanistan — appears to be spiralling out of control as the writ of the law in the region is at best tenuous.

“The LeT has morphed from a Kashmir-centric terror group to a transnational terror group that aspires to fight Jihad across the globe.”

 

[jeypore]

But i thought aL QAEDA WAS BEING HELPED BY iNDIA TO DESTABILISE paK

Yes, RAW stopped funding al queda, now they want to destabilise India.

 

[ksxyboy]

Yes, RAW stopped funding al queda, now they want to destabilise India.

that's funny !!!




Al Qaida lacks the operational capability to carry out a Mumbai style attack all by its own, unless given logistical and material support by any state authority. Another Mumbai style attack will up the ante to a point of no return. Question is : Is GoP/PA ready to escalate tensions with India to a point where even external pressure might not work?

 

[waraich66]

that's funny !!!




Al Qaida lacks the operational capability to carry out a Mumbai style attack all by its own, unless given logistical and material support by any state authority. Another Mumbai style attack will up the ante to a point of no return. Question is : Is GoP/PA ready to escalate tensions with India to a point where even external pressure might not work?

Al QAeda dont need any state support , they are well trained people could be to attack indian sensitive miltery and economic targets as they did in bombai.

They dont like indian presence in Afghanistan and friendship with Israel.

India should learn lesson from spain .

koaloo ke dalali mein mu tu kala huta hai : LOL

 

[SurvivoR]

A dead man issuing threats just like emergence of Osama Bin Laden every now and then out of blue to legitimize US attacks.

 

[ksxyboy]

Al QAeda dont need any state support , they are well trained people could be to attack indian sensitive miltery and economic targets as they did in bombai.

They dont like indian presence in Afghanistan and friendship with Israel.

India should learn lesson from spain .

koaloo ke dalali mein mu tu kala huta hai : LOL

To follow the KISS (Keeping It Short and Simple) principle, the reasons for us to get involved are to take care of our security. We have been besieged with problems because of P-stani supported terrorism. We join forces with NATO and other countries to fight the AQs+ Talibs + Jamaats + any other radical groups supporting terrorist activities against India. Thus it serves our purpose and the larger interest of the civilized world too !!!

 

[waraich66]

To follow the KISS (Keeping It Short and Simple) principle, the reasons for us to get involved are to take care of our security. We have been besieged with problems because of P-stani supported terrorism. We join forces with NATO and other countries to fight the AQs+ Talibs + Jamaats + any other radical groups supporting terrorist activities against India. Thus it serves our purpose and the larger interest of the civilized world too !!!

If NATO do some foolish actions you should not follow them , India know regional issue better then US and NATO.

Fact is india is misleading US in regional issues ,Milliband already mentioned that terrorism in region is linked with kashmir problem

But you dont want to listen any voice or sound not matching with your desires of Akund baharat and Kashmir Atut Ang.

India is epi center of regional terrorism providing just cause to Al QAEDA to induct freedom fighters for Kashmir liberation.

 

[ksxyboy]

If NATO do some foolish actions you should not follow them , India know regional issue better then US and NATO.

Fact is india is misleading US in regional issues ,Milliband already mentioned that terrorism in region is linked with kashmir problem

But you dont want to listen any voice or sound not matching with your desires of Akund baharat and Kashmir Atut Ang.

India is epi center of regional terrorism providing just cause to Al QAEDA to induct freedom fighters for Kashmir liberation.

I believe the option is available to us, it is an open secret that US would definitely appreciate more troops irrespective of the source and it would love to make the new allies(India) join the NATO forces. That would be an official declaration of going under US umbrella from US' point of view.

India on the other hand would definitely consider joining A-stan, if there was another attack on Indian property like a consulate or something, a massive attack would justify India's involvement and would seem natural. India would want to take Iran and Russia into confidence before moving in though.

As for gains, the first and foremost gain simply would be that Pak's worst nightmare come true. so then it would have to now be more careful with its anti-India/terror policies than before and India has more leverage with it. One might argue that, the number of troops wont be sufficient to pose any threat to PA, but we must understand that PA traditionally has concentrated on its eastern borders and completely neglected the western one, hence it is finding it so hard to fight Talibanis, who are essentially a rag tag group with with limited capability. so, one can imagine that PA would pi$$ in its pants at the thought of IA being present at both its borders. So leverage against Pak
right now, India doesn't have this with Pak.

Then, India itself in more suitable than any other country to serve as peace keepers in A-stan. There are many reasons for it. One is that India is one of the major aid-givers to it, and has been involved in rebuilding it. So we do enjoy a positive image. There are many Indians working there as well, and who have integrated quite well. So, next to PA, the best force to act as peace keepers are IA. But since PA is not available for that role for variety of reasons, we can do it for US, provided we get concessions for it.

A-stan, is gateway to energy rich central Asia. India would definitely like to exploit this situation. Pak till now has successfully kept India out of central Asia, since India doesn't have any other route available till now.


so there are gains.
as for losing soldiers in concerned, again lets not forget that IA is one of the few armies in the world which has dealt with terrorism/extremism more than most in very hostile conditions. so, we are more experienced in that regard !!!
hence, causalities may not be as high as they might be imagined !!!

 

[ksxyboy]

Fact is India is misleading US in regional issues ,Milliband already mentioned that terrorism in region is linked with Kashmir problem

what is Kashmir problem according to you Sir ???

 

[Patriot]

I believe the option is available to us, it is an open secret that US would definitely appreciate more troops irrespective of the source and it would love to make the new allies(India) join the NATO forces. That would be an official declaration of going under US umbrella from US' point of view.

India on the other hand would definitely consider joining A-stan, if there was another attack on Indian property like a consulate or something, a massive attack would justify India's involvement and would seem natural. India would want to take Iran and Russia into confidence before moving in though.

As for gains, the first and foremost gain simply would be that Pak's worst nightmare come true. so then it would have to now be more careful with its anti-India/terror policies than before and India has more leverage with it. One might argue that, the number of troops wont be sufficient to pose any threat to PA, but we must understand that PA traditionally has concentrated on its eastern borders and completely neglected the western one, hence it is finding it so hard to fight Talibanis, who are essentially a rag tag group with with limited capability. so, one can imagine that PA would pi$$ in its pants at the thought of IA being present at both its borders. So leverage against Pak
right now, India doesn't have this with Pak.

Then, India itself in more suitable than any other country to serve as peace keepers in A-stan. There are many reasons for it. One is that India is one of the major aid-givers to it, and has been involved in rebuilding it. So we do enjoy a positive image. There are many Indians working there as well, and who have integrated quite well. So, next to PA, the best force to act as peace keepers are IA. But since PA is not available for that role for variety of reasons, we can do it for US, provided we get concessions for it.

A-stan, is gateway to energy rich central Asia. India would definitely like to exploit this situation. Pak till now has successfully kept India out of central Asia, since India doesn't have any other route available till now.


so there are gains.
as for losing soldiers in concerned, again lets not forget that IA is one of the few armies in the world which has dealt with terrorism/extremism more than most in very hostile conditions. so, we are more experienced in that regard !!!
hence, causalities may not be as high as they might be imagined !!!

I am pretty sure India does not want huge bags of dead bodies of IA soldiers.This will also make India enemy of Talians and AQ which in result will attack India more often.ALL Nato countries have state of the art immigration system, airport security and India does not have state of the art systems as we have seen after Mumbai attacks so India will be the biggest looser and AQ carried out 9/11 attacks without state support..What makes you think they can't carry out attacks in India without state support?Security is much better in US then India.

 

[ksxyboy]

I am pretty sure India does not want huge bags of dead bodies of IA soldiers.This will also make India enemy of Talians and AQ which in result will attack India more often.ALL Nato countries have state of the art immigration system, airport security and India does not have state of the art systems as we have seen after Mumbai attacks so India will be the biggest looser and AQ carried out 9/11 attacks without state support..What makes you think they can't carry out attacks in India without state support?Security is much better in US then India.

Everyone knows where the planning, training and the propaganda is coming from for these attacks, right from the time of Mumbai Blasts investigation agencies and defense forces have been talking about them.

Lets not forget that the aim of these people is global jihad ....having gone through a 1000 year of slavery and foreign rule, we Indians should be pro-active about tackling such threats. For me it is quite sickening to hear to arguments which talk about reacting after another major attack - signs of not taking terrorism seriously and not doing anything to prevent such attacks from happening. Prevention is better than cure .. and death has no cure !!!

 

[waraich66]

what is Kashmir problem according to you Sir ???

Not only Kashmir also Hydrabad,Juna gargh had majority muslim population ,read history books and UN resolution how india by force captured these states , these actions showing indian real image to world of nation and also world biggest democratic country where temples and mosques of other nations in minority can be destroyed any time.