Al-Jazeera's Faisal al-Kasim Twitter poll: who would you support if Israel attacked Hezbollah?

[Solomon2]

but isis is creation of the western alliance isreal included-

You just proved his point.

The question now is why S. Asia's Muslims should look to people with diseased thinking like yourself for leadership, since you're obviously too proud to change your mind. For isn't it people like you who have continued to support murder-mongering militants for years, in defiance of morality and regardless of human cost, even after they've turned to bite the hands that feed them?

 

[jamal18]

What has military aid to do with the fact that we Jews constitute 20% of all Nobel laureates? BY FAR more than any other people and 15 times more than 1.6 BILLION Muslims? Or that we are arguably the most talented people and that you can find us in every field in leading positions? Is that also due to American military aid? Or what about the other issues that I mentioned?
With or without American military aid we are the most advanced and powerful country in the Middle East despite our small size and much lower population than most ME countries. By far. Not to mention our nukes. Speaking about nuclear power; there would be no nuclear power without Jews who pioneered this field like so many other fields.
We are here to stay and you better come to terms with that. Even your Quran speaks about a Jewish people and the state (Kingdom to be precise) of Israel while there is not a single mention of "Palestinians" or Palestine. While you are it, you should study the history and origin of Christianity and Islam and figure out what religion they both derive from. 95% of your Prophets and holy men are Jews too to make matters even funnier.

You know what is amazing? Your Muslims, by large, envy and pathological hatred of the Jewish people. The same people who contributed heavily to your so-called "Golden Age".



Muslim "logic" strikes again for the entire world to see! Keep killing each other while alienating the world from the US to China and don't forget the obligatory antisemitism so you can go to your imaginary heaven.

Israel would have been in the same position without US help? Really? The trillion dollars of US money made no difference whatsoever? Really? Remember, you can quote other countries figures, but Israel has been getting these figures every year, not for a short period of time.

How about the preferential trade deals?

And your nukes? Oh, you didn't notice that the US gave Israel the plans for nuclear weapons?

And the technology deal with the US means that Israel can access virtually all of the US's technology research, which no other country on earth is allowed. Israel begins its projects at the top of the technology ladder, unlike every other country that has to start at the bottom. In case you hadn't noticed, the US has a policy of bombing countries that are developing nuclear weapons.

Except, of course Israel.

 

[Azadkashmir]

You just proved his point.

The question now is why S. Asia's Muslims should look to people with diseased thinking like yourself for leadership, since you're obviously too proud to change your mind. For isn't it people like you who have continued to support murder-mongering militants for years, in defiance of morality and regardless of human cost, even after they've turned to bite the hands that feed them?

wtf u on about i only suppot those that are genuinly fighting against oppression.

 

[500]

you mean do a false flag like uss liberty to try trap egypt. see the jew cant be trusted.

is this antisemetic?

Israeli planes and ships during the attack were clearly marked and led open radio conversations in Hebrew (recorded by NSA, same records showed that Israel did not know that ship was Amereican). It proves that ur conspiracy theory is crap.

I dont know if u are antisemitic, but u are plain dumb for sure.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Israeli planes and ships during the attack were clearly marked and led open radio conversations in Hebrew (recorded by NSA, same records showed that Israel did not know that ship was Amereican). It proves that ur conspiracy theory is crap.

I dont know if u are antisemitic, but u are plain dumb for sure.

ha i believe that nsa created by zionist and now they claim accident. either the world is antisemmetic or jew just cant stop lyin and decieving. i mean white nations have said this about the jew and expelled them and others brown and black nations say the same. This has never happened to any other nation except the jew.

 

[jamal18]

Israeli planes and ships during the attack were clearly marked and led open radio conversations in Hebrew (recorded by NSA, same records showed that Israel did not know that ship was Amereican). It proves that ur conspiracy theory is crap.

I dont know if u are antisemitic, but u are plain dumb for sure.

No. The survivors clearly stated that the planes attacking them had their emblems painted over. There were no Insignia on the planes. The torpedo boats I don't know about.

It was a very strange action in history; even now the full picture is not known.

 

[500]

No. The survivors clearly stated that the planes attacking them had their emblems painted over. There were no Insignia on the planes.

Yes it was:

Theodore Arfsten, a quartermaster, remembered watching a Jewish officer cry when he saw the blue Star of David on the planes' fuselages. At first, crew members below decks had no idea whose planes were shooting at their ship.

New revelations in attack on American spy ship - Chicago Tribune

More over, Mirage planes have very distinguish shape.

The torpedo boats I don't know about.

Torpedo boats carried both markings and Israeli flags.

Approximately 081225Z three torpedo boats one identified as Israeli approached ship on stbd qtr at high speed. Hull number of one boat was 206-17

Docs 206-262

Note there is a mistake - its not 17, but Hebrew Letter "Tav" (Torpedo) which looks like 17

It was a very strange action in history; even now the full picture is not known.

Simple friendly fire accident. Thousands friendly fire accidents happening in every war.

 

[Solomon2]

wtf u on about i only suppot those that are genuinly -

Who are YOU to decide "genuinly fighting against oppression" with all the falsehoods, half-truths, and unsupported conspiracy theories you spout?

 

[Azadkashmir]

Who are YOU to decide "genuinly fighting against oppression" with all the falsehoods, half-truths, and unsupported conspiracy theories you spout?

Now i reply same question to you who are you to decide, who is telling truth or not who is terriost or not. isrealis kill palestinians everyday yet scream like b i tches when some palestinians throws a rock.

Even american are not immune to isreali aggression.

 

[Solomon2]

Now i reply same question to you who are you to decide, who is telling truth or not who is terriost or not. isrealis kill palestinians everyday -

And did you ever stop to ask yourself if in particular instances Jews killing Arabs could be justifiably the right thing to do, or are you committing the fallacy of standing upon prejudice? I'm pretty sure it's the latter, especially since it's the official policy of Pakistan's H.E.C. to put such questions BEYOND debate and you strike me as little more than a conspiracy-mongering conformist. When have you ever gone against the grain, or even genuinely tried to look at issues from both sides to judge between them?

 

[Azadkashmir]

famous people what they had to say. not me.

 

[Solomon2]

famous people what they had to say. not me.

You are merely picking and choosing from whatever confirms your biases; objective truth is not to be sought when it contradicts them, otherwise you would have at least done your research to see that one or more of these "quotes" are false. (Or maybe you did, and decided to foist them upon us, anyway.)

 

[Azadkashmir]

You are merely picking and choosing from whatever confirms your biases; objective truth is not to be sought when it contradicts them, otherwise you would have at least done your research to see that one or more of these "quotes" are false. (Or maybe you did, and decided to foist them upon us, anyway.)

i have done more than my share of bringing proof but you deny it like the rachel corrie story killed by isreali bulldozer.
what about king david hotel bombing. its no use a jew will deny he is born to lie like it says in the talmud.

 

[Solomon2]

i have done more than my share of bringing proof but you deny it like the rachel corrie story killed by isreali bulldozer.

Isn't it apparent that Corrie's death means whatever Azadkashmir wants it to mean and that he doesn't care about the specific and exact circumstances?

what about king david hotel bombing. its no use a jew will deny he is born to lie like it says in the talmud.

Bingo, you've been stripped of skin and clothing and all can see that it's the prejudice in your bones that drives you.

Any honest enquiry shows that justice lies on the side of the Zionists. (Why, I was just reading on the internet declassified minutes of the British cabinet and they admitted the Arabs were at fault and that the Haganah were not terrorists even as they advocated stripping the Jews of armaments - because British policy outweighed the honor they were supposed to exercise as Trustee of the Palestine Mandate.) So why shouldn't Pakistanis seek a leader who is a Zionist as well?

 

[jamal18]

Yes it was:

Theodore Arfsten, a quartermaster, remembered watching a Jewish officer cry when he saw the blue Star of David on the planes' fuselages. At first, crew members below decks had no idea whose planes were shooting at their ship.

New revelations in attack on American spy ship - Chicago Tribune

More over, Mirage planes have very distinguish shape.


Torpedo boats carried both markings and Israeli flags.

Approximately 081225Z three torpedo boats one identified as Israeli approached ship on stbd qtr at high speed. Hull number of one boat was 206-17

Docs 206-262

Note there is a mistake - its not 17, but Hebrew Letter "Tav" (Torpedo) which looks like 17

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Simple friendly fire accident. Thousands friendly fire accidents happening in every war.

No, the aircraft had their insignia removed. That is an eye witness report I have seen.

The crew categorically stated that their communication frequency was jammed; as Nato and the Warsaw pact use different frequencies, the Israelis had to know who they were attacking. All the crew always maintained that they thought it was no accident.

There was finally a US government report which said it was no accident.

Incidentally, a bizarre act was that fighter aircraft sent to defend them from the US fleet were recalled at the request of the US government. The admiral in charge was so shocked at this order that he actually asked to speak to the president himself to confirm it.

This was no accident.

'Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.

Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.'

And

'A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."'

Incidentally, do you know what Mcnamara said when interviewed on tv? 'No comment'.