Al-Aqsa: Palestinians killed as Jerusalem protests rage

[KRAIT]

You forgot to mention that he was a terrorist


The Arabs smuggled weapons to the Temple Mount and carried out an attack
So Israel put a magnetometer at the entrance so they would not smuggle weapons
The Arabs were upset that Israel put out magnometers and went out to demonstrate in the streets, and another two who tried to stab soldiers
What poor Arabs, right?

Leave buddy. These guys first create chaos and when actions are taken against them, they cry foul.

India has been facing same issue like Israel.

 

[Falcon29]

Again arab propaganda against MAGNOMETERS in al aqsa.
There are magnometers in MECCA but in al aqsa? shame on Israel
Terrorist Palestinians come and murder our Druze brothers and then do a protest about closing the area because of it.

This has to do with a lot more than 'magnometers', detailed in this post.

Also, I've been to Mecca in the past and never had to deal with any such dealing. Are you making things up for arguments sake?

 

[19887]

@Mountain Jew

Palestinians. Citizens of Palestine. We are not discussing ethnicity here. I forgot that you don't even recognize that a people called Palestinians exist as I have discovered a few times while discussing with you.

Your claim is not proven. Somehow a recent graduate suddenly decides to become a "terrorist". Sounds very likely. BTW what is terrorism in your eyes? Are protesters terrorists or those who demand entry to the Al-Aqsa Mosque? Did your regime not just ban people below 50 years of age (!) to attend today's Friday prayers? You did.

@Falcon29

I know the agenda well. Seen it many times. He is playing a double game. Very dishonest. At least be honest.

BTW photo 4 in your post number 7, is from Mauritania and not Yemen. You can see it based on their dress (dara'a). Mauritanians are great people (we have a sizable community in KSA) and they are one of the most pro-Palestinian people.

I recognize that there are people who call themselves "Palestinians"
Anyone who attacks someone on a nationalist background is a terrorist.
I meant a guy who died yesterday when he tried to stab a female soldier.
The Hebrew word is called "mehabel" which it's not exactly a terrorist but it's the only English translation.

Again arab propaganda against MAGNOMETERS in al aqsa.
There are magnometers in MECCA but in al aqsa? shame on Israel
Terrorist Palestinians come and murder our Druze brothers and then do a protest about closing the area because of it.

If we place magnometers at the entrance to the Temple Mount and decide who will enter and who is not, this is another step that demonstrates our sovereignty over the Temple Mount, and this is what infuriates them, because they see themselves as sovereign

 

[Falcon29]

Leave buddy. These guys first create chaos and when actions are taken against them, they cry foul.

India has been facing same issue like Israel.

Those creating chaos are those occupying the territory. All Israeli military forces should be removed from the West Bank. The PA has already agreed to allow Israeli control of West Jerusalem but the eastern portion should be under control by the local Palestinians with it as its capital for a future state.

 

[19887]

They want to take control of the compound and rebuild the temple preparing for you know who.

They're religious extremists themselves and will remain extremely violent as needed due to delusions of God given rights.

Real peaceful Jews are against Zionists and claim their religion has been hijacked by these extremists. They often demonstrate and are abused by locals and police alike.

Quite true Professor, the atheist Zionists are religious extremists
You're just a genius

 

[KRAIT]

Those creating chaos are those occupying the territory. All Israeli military forces should be removed from the West Bank. The PA has already agreed to allow Israeli control of West Jerusalem but the eastern portion should be under control by the local Palestinians with it as its capital for a future state.

No one can dictate their demands. Israel has the power. They will keep it. There are 56 Arab countries, if Palestinians want to live peacefully, they might as well leave for other countries. Why should Israel give up what is its rightfully theirs.

 

[19887]

When the day comes, we will take no prisoners and we will make no peace.

So according to your logic, is this what Israel should do to the Arabs at the moment?

Leave buddy. These guys first create chaos and when actions are taken against them, they cry foul.

India has been facing same issue like Israel.

Why leave?
You think I do not know what they're doing?
I use them to expose their nakedness, their lies
There are a lot of people who read and will read the posts here, and it's important that they know the truth, I'm not trying to convince the liars

 

[Falcon29]

I recognize that there are people who call themselves "Palestinians"
Anyone who attacks someone on a nationalist background is a terrorist.
I meant a guy who died yesterday when he tried to stab a female soldier.
The Hebrew word is called "mehabel" which it's not exactly a terrorist but it's the only English translation.

So now you're talking about someone who was killed yesterday, even though the photo you quoted was of an recent graduate who was killed today? And no, it's lawful to target Israeli soldiers in occupied territory. So still doesn't qualify as a 'terrorist'. And your definition of 'terrorist' if not the globally recognized one. So don't even bother.

No one can dictate their demands. Israel has the power. They will keep it. There are 56 Arab countries, if Palestinians want to live peacefully, they might as well leave for other countries. Why should Israel give up what is its rightfully theirs.

Buddy, we're discussing the ground realities using moral and legal approach. No one cares about the 'might is right' mantra. You're asserting that the locals are responsible for any chaos. That is not the ground reality. The reality is that the Israeli forces are responsible for any chaos on occupied territory. Those army forces and settlers are not local people and have no legal right to be on the territory. Israel should agree to a two state solution that world has been pushing with east Jerusalem as its capital.

 

[KRAIT]

So according to your logic, is this what Israel should do to the Arabs at the moment?


Why leave?
You think I do not know what they're doing?
I use them to expose their nakedness, their lies
There are a lot of people who read and will read the posts here, and it's important that they know the truth, I'm not trying to convince the liars

By all means expose their lies but remember, they will never accept their faults.

 

[19887]

Those creating chaos are those occupying the territory. All Israeli military forces should be removed from the West Bank. The PA has already agreed to allow Israeli control of West Jerusalem but the eastern portion should be under control by the local Palestinians with it as its capital for a future state.

"Those creating chaos are those occupying the territory" - Jews can not occupy a land that belongs to them.

"All Israeli military forces should be removed from the West Bank" - Okay God, we'll go out hhh

"The PA has already agreed to allow Israeli control of West Jerusalem" -
hhhhhhhhhh, West Jerusalem did not exist until the State of Israel was established and built it
And you are telling me that the Palestinian Authority has decided to give up on it
Jerusalem has nothing to do with you, my friend

"eastern portion should be under control by the local Palestinians with it as its capital for a future state" - Jerusalem is the holiest place for the Jews, and the eternal capital of the Jews long before any Arab passed through it, and long before Islam came, and long before the KGB invented the "Palestinians"

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

This has to do with a lot more than 'magnometers', detailed in this post.

Also, I've been to Mecca in the past and never had to deal with any such dealing. Are you making things up for arguments sake?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/15/explosives-detectors-mecca-holy-mosque

Explosives detectors are to be installed at the entrances to the Holy Mosque in Mecca as the Saudi authorities boost security around the city's holy sites.

Around 180 people work on a shift pattern to man the gates leading to the Masjid al-Haram, which surrounds the Ka'aba, the black granite cube that Muslims turn to when praying.

But there are no other measures in place to screen pilgrims for weapons, explosive devices or other banned items, although there are more than 700 cameras tracking them for possible theft, pickpocketing and other criminal or immoral activity.

Lieutenant Colonel Fawaz al-Sahafi, who heads the security team at the mosque, told the Saudi Gazette plans to fit "sophisticated metal and explosive detectors" at the multiple gates were under way.

He also said there were proposals to monitor pilgrims' movements and have plain-clothes officers mingling with worshippers to stop them from carrying unauthorised foodstuffs into the mosque.

Another security official, Lieutenant General Saeed Bin Abdullah al-Qahtani, said cameras at pilgrims' residential buildings, traffic initiatives and crowd management plans would improve safety inside and outside the Grand Mosque.

There is a ban on private cars carrying pilgrims entering Mecca, and there will be greater intervention from guards to ease congestion and jostling.

The Saudi authorities have revamped a key element of the Hajj to minimise the potential for stampedes and expedite the evacuation of worshippers, but similar initiatives have yet to materialise at other sites in Mecca.

Islam's holiest city has not experienced terrorist activity since 1979, when hundreds of people died following an armed takeover of the Grand Mosque, with overcrowding proving to be more of a threat in recent years.

At any one time, almost 1 million pilgrims can fit into the Grand Mosque. It covers almost one-third of a square kilometre but, in the coming days, King Abdullah will lay a foundation stone marking an expansion project to accommodate more believers.

Around 4 million Muslims visit Mecca to perform the Hajj, the Islamic pilgrimage, while millions more go there throughout the year.

 

[19887]

So now you're talking about someone who was killed yesterday, even though the photo you quoted was of an recent graduate who was killed today? And no, it's lawful to target Israeli soldiers in occupied territory. So still doesn't qualify as a 'terrorist'. And your definition of 'terrorist' if not the globally recognized one. So don't even bother.

I did not look at the pictures, and I did not know there had been casualties today, I thought you meant yesterday

 

[Falcon29]

"Those creating chaos are those occupying the territory" - Jews can not occupy a land that belongs to them.

That's not a legal justification, rather emotional and personal. So stop wasting bandwidth on this site.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/15/explosives-detectors-mecca-holy-mosque

Explosives detectors are to be installed at the entrances to the Holy Mosque in Mecca as the Saudi authorities boost security around the city's holy sites.

I was there last year and noticed no such thing, there was complete freedom of movement. People of all ages could enter and there was no delay. So if there were any they were very well implemented and not noticed. The demonstrations in Palestine are not primarily related to these explosive detectors, rather the status quo in Jerusalem and the West Bank overall.

Your own link:

But there are no other measures in place to screen pilgrims for weapons, explosive devices or other banned items, although there are more than 700 cameras tracking them for possible theft, pickpocketing and other criminal or immoral activity.

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You need to read before you post things in a rush ....

 

[19887]

By all means expose their lies but remember, they will never accept their faults.

There is no need for it
Other people should see this, and reconsider their worldview
I want people to question, and test their opinions. As I always do, that's how you win the ignorance.
These liars are not bad people, they're just ignorant.
For example, the guy here who is apparently a "Palestinian" doesn't know that the Russians invented the Palestinian idea, because he doesn't ask questions, he lives the life that other people told him to live, understand?

 

[DavidSling]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/15/explosives-detectors-mecca-holy-mosque

Explosives detectors are to be installed at the entrances to the Holy Mosque in Mecca as the Saudi authorities boost security around the city's holy sites.

Around 180 people work on a shift pattern to man the gates leading to the Masjid al-Haram, which surrounds the Ka'aba, the black granite cube that Muslims turn to when praying.

But there are no other measures in place to screen pilgrims for weapons, explosive devices or other banned items, although there are more than 700 cameras tracking them for possible theft, pickpocketing and other criminal or immoral activity.

Lieutenant Colonel Fawaz al-Sahafi, who heads the security team at the mosque, told the Saudi Gazette plans to fit "sophisticated metal and explosive detectors" at the multiple gates were under way.

He also said there were proposals to monitor pilgrims' movements and have plain-clothes officers mingling with worshippers to stop them from carrying unauthorised foodstuffs into the mosque.

Another security official, Lieutenant General Saeed Bin Abdullah al-Qahtani, said cameras at pilgrims' residential buildings, traffic initiatives and crowd management plans would improve safety inside and outside the Grand Mosque.

There is a ban on private cars carrying pilgrims entering Mecca, and there will be greater intervention from guards to ease congestion and jostling.

The Saudi authorities have revamped a key element of the Hajj to minimise the potential for stampedes and expedite the evacuation of worshippers, but similar initiatives have yet to materialise at other sites in Mecca.

Islam's holiest city has not experienced terrorist activity since 1979, when hundreds of people died following an armed takeover of the Grand Mosque, with overcrowding proving to be more of a threat in recent years.

At any one time, almost 1 million pilgrims can fit into the Grand Mosque. It covers almost one-third of a square kilometre but, in the coming days, King Abdullah will lay a foundation stone marking an expansion project to accommodate more believers.

Around 4 million Muslims visit Mecca to perform the Hajj, the Islamic pilgrimage, while millions more go there throughout the year.

Just another attempt by Muslims to create chaos and destruction in OURS and THEIRS holy place.
Call for day of rage cause of METAL Dectectors .
hilarious