Al-Aqsa: Palestinians killed as Jerusalem protests rage

[ValerioAurelius]

Try that and see where it leads u if not to the same spot with harsher response

We already did this once and it was quite sucesfull.

Remember the Roman Emprie once was fed up with this shit.

We have a arch celebrating that event in Rome

 

[DavidSling]

We already did this once and it was quite sucesfull.

Remember the Roman Emprie once was fed up with this shit.

We have a arch celebrating that event in Rome

Each action by the Israelies will be seen by the arab world as evil zionist act, if we'll open a food branch there they'll say we're defiling their holy place

 

[Solomon2]

Huh? The British Mandate? Where did you come to the conclusion that establishing settlements and transferring civilians to the West Bank is legal? That does not imply that at all, and the league of nations is long dissolved. The United Nations dictates these legal terms. And they have established there is no legal validity to them -

It's zero. The Mandate was set up as a Trust and a Trustee can't negate its purposes. Ben-Gurion properly pointed out that once Britain acted that way the Jews - the designated beneficiaries, the Jewish Agency being the recognized representative - were entitled to take title and control.

Furthermore, not only was the Mandate never renegotiated but Article 80, paragraph 2 states: " this Article shall not be interpreted as giving grounds for delay or postponement of the negotiation and conclusion of agreements for placing mandated and other territories under the trusteeship system as provided for in Article 77."

So no, Arabs have no legal grounds to kill the Jews and steal back the lands they previously sold to them. (They obviously had no moral grounds to do so, either.)

The moral case is especially strong because Arabs violated their obligations under the Mandate not to molest the Jews or steal their property from elsewhere in the Middle East.

No one doubts that the character of the Land changed as a result of the Jews' return. That Arabs some suffered didn't have to happen but it was largely their choice to attempt to slaughter the Jews rather than leave them in peace. Under the Mandate the Jews lost none of the civil rights they had under the Turks - that included the right to live in peace, unmolested by criminals. For a community to support such their property and/or lives were forfeit. Ben-Gurion trained as an Ottoman lawyer; he knew what he was doing.

 

[Falcon29]

So no, Arabs have no legal grounds to kill the Jews and steal back the lands they previously sold to them. (They obviously had no moral grounds to do so, either.)

What is all this all about? How did we go for illegal settlements to this? The West Bank was not sold to anyone, it is occupied territory. And those armed forces are men armed to the teeth carrying it out, they are not some innocent ordinary 'Jews'.

And you are already refuted in post #55. If you continue with this anti-Muslim theme I'm going to report you. It won't be appropriate if any of us here pushed the 'Jews being Jews' theme or something like that. You're a bigot and you're gonna get banned if you continue.

 

[313ghazi]

So cause jews won the war that ARABS started they have no legitimacy to stay there, BUT if arabs would win the war THEY started then they had the right to?
DONT start a war you can't win cause ull HAVE to face the results of your actions.
That's how the world WORKS.
Palestinians or arabs or muslims w/e u want call them HAD the chance to live side by side with jews and they DECLINED

And western bank was PART of JORDAN before Israel captured it, not "PALESTINE"
Trying to change the history, pathetic

It was part of the Ottoman caliphate. The bastard state of Jordan was born after the British occupation.

 

[DavidSling]

It was part of the Ottoman caliphate. The bastard state of Jordan was born after the British occupation.

It was also part of British mandate so?

 

[Solomon2]

What is all this all about? How did we go for illegal settlements to this?

Because they're only illegal if built on land owned by Arabs, rather than deeded to Jews by the Ottomans via the Mandate, or sold by Arabs to Jews; they are merely SAID to be illegal, which is something quite different.

And you are already refuted in post #55. If you continue with this anti-Muslim theme -

The stuff in #55 doesn't look like a refutation to me and you've left the moral bit untouched, except for claiming it as an "anti-Muslim theme" - an attempt, as I said, to invoke religious sectarianism to support crime. Pakistanis shouldn't have fallen for it in the first place. Recognizing they've been fooled shouldn't stop them from changing their minds now.

You're a bigot -

You're the one advocating that Jews in Palestine should be attacked simply because they are Jews. I never claimed Arabs should be attacked because they are Arabs. So you're the one turning the truth upside-down, not I.

I said it would be hard for you.

 

[313ghazi]

We already did this once and it was quite sucesfull.

Remember the Roman Emprie once was fed up with this shit.

We have a arch celebrating that event in Rome

I'm glad you have an arch because you don't have an empire anymore. I know who rules what used to be your empire, you've been schooled on that before. You denied it ever being part of your empire, but you Christians have a track record for that in the face of defeat, Peter denied knowing Jesus 3 times.

 

[dani191]

We are the owners of the house. Anyone who tries to cause disturbances will pay the price

 

[313ghazi]

It was also part of British mandate so?

The British were occupiers. Any Muslim with dignity should reject thier occupation, agreements and the fake borders they created between us.

I admire the zionists and I am beginning to learn from you. You people made the impossible possible by rejecting the rules and choosing to set your own terms. We will do the same, even if it takes 5000 years to be successful.

 

[dani191]

We determine the laws we are sovereign on the Temple Mount and whoever is rioting will feel the power of Jewish power

 

[DavidSling]

The British were occupiers. Any Muslim with dignity should reject thier occupation, agreements and the fake borders they created between us.

I admire the zionists and I am beginning to learn from you. You people made the impossible possible by rejecting the rules and choosing to set your own terms. We will do the same, even if it takes 5000 years to be successful.

So british mandate were occupiers and ottoman empire wasn't?
How's that?
The Palestine region or parts of it have been controlled by numerous different peoples and regional powers, including the Canaanites, Amorites,[2] Ancient Egyptians, Israelites, Moabites, Ammonites, Tjeker, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, ancient Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, different dynasties of the Early Muslim period (Umayads, Abbasids, Seljuqs, Fatimids), Crusaders, Late Muslim dynasties (Ayyubids, Mamluks, Ottoman Turks), the British, Jordanians (1948–1967, on the "West Bank") and Egyptians (in Gaza), and modern Israelis and Palestinians. Other terms for the same area include Canaan, Zion, the Land of Israel, Southern Syria, Jund Filastin, Outremer, and the Holy Land.

 

[Solomon2]

The British were occupiers. Any Muslim with dignity should reject thier occupation, agreements and the fake borders they created between us.

So as far as you'r concerned a "Muslim with dignity" should pursue murder and conquest, as opposed to truth, peace, and justice.

 

[DavidSling]

So as far as you'r concerned a "Muslim with dignity" should pursue murder and conquest, as opposed to truth, peace, and justice.

He's thinking that only muslims have the right to Conquer and Hold lands.
All other nations and people who commit such an action are criminals

 

[Solomon2]

He's thinking that only muslims have the right to Conquer and Hold lands.
All other nations and people who commit such an action are criminals

Well, he can counter that easily by stating, without qualification, that Muslims don't have the right to conquer and hold lands. How about it, @313ghazi?