Aircraft carrier Liaoning vs Vikramaditya

[Maleesh]

Both the Carriers are different in specifications just as the respective Navies have different capabilities and experience of operating carriers.
Where Aircraft Carriers are concerned, their air-wings are more important than just the ships themselves. So that is where the operational abilities of the air-wings become important. Paper specifications are less important.
All that said; PLAN has clearly stated that Varyag (Liaoning) is a training carrier to create a sea-borne air-wing of the future.

but they also said it is combat ready type vessel with all armament

 

[BigDaddyWatch]

but the crew is extended heavily must be upto 2600

For the Liaoning China has been able to reduce the crew size from 2626 in the original design to about 2200 thanks to more automation and digitization and also because of the stripping of the weapons and all its sub-systems. I'm not sure about the crew size of the Vikramaditya.

 

[Beast]

@Maleesh its not in size And shape of the AC.... its what on it.... Indian AC will have latest technology and deadly weapons.... Plus lots of experience....

Indian BS at its best. Best tech like faulty boiler?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

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P.S. I don't think that the Vikramaditya is coming from Russia with any CIWS systems on it. I have heard that India is planning to fit the ship with Israeli made barak systems after 2017. Can someone confirm this ?

The Vikramaditya is likely to have the Barak-8 missile system and AK-630 CIWS fitted. Both systems are in use with IN extensively. There is a possibility of Barak-1 being added when the missile is inducted into IN later.

 

[Maleesh]

Indian BS at its best. Best tech like faulty boiler?

yep, the most advanced to stuck up with the boiler

 

[Capt.Popeye]

but they also said it is combat ready type vessel with all armament

Of course Liaoning has combat capability; otherwise it would be used as a casino!
I just explained its function: as a 'training carrier' for an air-wing. PLAN has no earlier experience of carrier-borne air operations. That is where the real value of an aircraft carrier lies, as I explained earlier.

 

[danger007]

well unless until it become troll thread.... it is fine to discuss about military stuff..

 

[Maleesh]

Of course Liaoning has combat capability; otherwise it would be used as a casino!
I just explained its function: as a 'training carrier' for an air-wing. PLAN has no earlier experience of carrier-borne air operations. That is where the real value of an aircraft carrier lies, as I explained earlier.

but they are pretty familiar with carriers, they have 2 kiev class carriers for trainig too

 

[Luffy 500]

Can any experts/knowledgeable ones tell me whether aircrafts can be stored below decks of ACs? Otherwise I don't get how planes take off and land in such congested space. But it does happen. And if they can be stored below deck, how R they pulled above on the deck surface? Hydraulics?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

but they are pretty familiar with carriers, they have 2 kiev class carriers for trainig too

Are those carriers in use by PLAN? I've seen one of them in Yantian, Shenzen.
It is an amusement park. So who is getting trained there? Kids?

 

[Beast]

Liaoning is far bigger and has one more launch pad than INS Vikramaditya. Meaning liaoning can quickly launch as much plane as possible in a strike mission. Because you wouldn't want yr first few planes launch to wait too long for others to be launch and join them before they run out of fuel for their mission.

 

[Maleesh]

Are those carriers in use by PLAN? I've seen one of them in Yantian, Shenzen.
It is an amusement park. So who is getting trained there? Kids?

those were studied by PLAN and 1 was used to train PLAN cadets

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Can any experts/knowledgeable ones tell me whether aircrafts can be stored below decks of ACs? Otherwise I don't get how planes take off and land in such congested space. But it does happen. And if they can be stored below deck, how R they pulled above on the deck surface? Hydraulics?

Yes, the aircraft are stored below deck in a large space called the Hangar Deck, which is like a huge garage.
They fly off from the Flight Deck. The aircraft are brought on to the Flight Deck from the Hangar Deck on large Elevators/Lifts.

those were studied by PLAN and 1 was used to train PLAN cadets

For what? To fly off?

 

[Maleesh]

Yes, the aircraft are stored below deck in a large space called the Hangar Deck, which is like a huge garage.
They fly off from the Flight Deck. The aircraft are brought on to the Flight Deck from the Hangar Deck on large Elevators/Lifts.



For what? To fly off?

no for training

 

[Capt.Popeye]

no for training

, Training for what? Can you explain that?