Air Force chief says French fighter jet deal close

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

That is story of Russia always doing good and always getting betrayed . its time Russia and Pakistan got closer

 

[IPL5]

That is story of Russia always doing good and always getting betrayed . its time Russia and Pakistan got closer

russians are hardcore business people. they don't entertain soft loans and aids. looking at your budget i don't think it will change anything for long.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

But , I don't know how can India take planes from France that just back stabbed Russia by refusing them the helicopter carrier ship ....

What kind of eternal friendship is that , when you need Russia you beg its interference but when Russia needs help you say

We love USA and its only super power....

PUTIN is reading my comments , and Putin , its time for you to see and decided

"Doodh ka Doodh , Pani Ka Pani"

 

[$@rJen]

That is story of Russia always doing good and always getting betrayed . its time Russia and Pakistan got closer

why are you trying so hard to troll???

 

[Astra-2013]

What a BS.

Russia losing internationals arms market?

Arms industry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


2013 rankSupplierArms exports
1

Russia8283
2

United States6153
3

China1837




Russia is biggest weapon exporter in the world.

If you dont want a FGFA,simpy say "**** off " to Russians,T50 is strategical goal for Russia to keep West away from their borders,after this mess in Ukraine they will pay even billions more to make PAK FA working.

And good luck when another 1965/71 crisis happened to India,I hope that tiny Oland will provide political support to India,but i highly doubt potential of France to project power in South Asia.

@Astra-2013

First,you must learn how to quote my post.
Second.I am not a ex Soviet,I am from Serbia,1000 Km away from ex Soviet border.




Russia is still one of four main geopolitical powers in the world along USA,EU and China.


You shouldnt make a "" about Soviet disintegration,Soviets stop West from totally destruction of Indian economy and military,even today India would be parriah state of the world if invasion happened.




Nope,Russian weapon inqenuity shows its fruits today.
Kornet,Pantsir,S400,new Armada platform,Topol M,T90,SU35,MIG 35,Pak FA,new submarines,new BTR....

hahahah and btw,India is biggest weapons importer in the world and main of it imports are from Russia,so you just buying it "old Soviet tecnology"

Russia is ranked 2nd most powerful military by all means,so you just make a biggest pile of BS in one post.Congrats.

You was saying that if today somthing like 1971 happened to India then Russia will came to save India.
-> first This is not 1971 at that time west was against us but now West is supporting India.We dont need russia now. And now Indian economy is 1.9trillion and in next five year it will be more than Russian economy. That means more defence budget growth. so we can hope to build or buy military equipment form west instead or your cheap and old technology equipment.

->our current enemies are pakistan and china, not US so we dont need Russia's help. instead of thinking about invasion of India You should fear about Invasion of your country by NATO. I think in by next decade you have to beg before china to save your country from NATO.
->Russia is a declining power. so come out of your dreams.

 

[Black Mamba1]

And it is obviously too that India will start to boost it own defense industry before it becomes eternal biggest weapon importer in the world.It is better for India to saving money for two years but to start build with that money their own defense industry.It is normal

But all that I have to say if you buy Russian weapons you dont buy just a weapons but buying political support too.

India 1965/71,Vietnam,Syria.....all that countries wouldnt survive if might Soviet/Russian political power not standing behind them.Ende.

Indian will love Russians always. Dont be bothered by some exceptions

 

[sancho]

Russian Ministry of Defence DONT WANT to export that weapons.

That's not true, the Su 34 and Su 35s are on offer for export customers for years, constantly failing to attract customers, the Mig 35 participated in the MMRCA and was offered to other nations too, but everybody knows that it has no life left and if they even offer Pak Fa in S. Korea and Brazil, which is the most advanced techs that the Russians have, how can Flankers and Migs be even more top secret? So that surely is not the problem.

Not agree with you.
I highly respect a great Chinese shift in economics and military,but China cant build a top notch military with 180 billion per year without their own tech,but Russia have its own tech and 100 billion of Russian military budget is enough to modernize its machinery.Russia have basis of its military power while China and India must build its basis.

That's the funny part, Russians are even supporting China on surpassing Russia (selling techs, engines, designs...). China might not be on par on the development side at the moment, but on the industrial capability they already are ahead. That and their capability to rapidly learn / re-design, makes them the fastest growing military and defence industry at the moment. Just look at how many 4th to 4.5th generation fighters they pop out and induct currently and compare that to Russia and you will see the difference. Till the end of the decade PLAAF will be one 2nd only to the USAF, with modern 4.5th gen J10s and J11 versions and possibly even some stealth fighters, while the bulk of Russian airforce from Soviet times hopes for upgrades.

Do you realize that only three countries in the world history was superpowers?GB,USSR and USA.
Term "Superpower" isnt for anyone.

True and India isn't one nor will be one anytime soon, but history is changing and today there is only 1 Superpower left and 1 on the verge to be the next big Superpower, China!

 

[DejanSRB]

@Astra-2013
Mate you need education,when I was age of 6,i know almost every country in the world and their position on the globe.
You dont know the difference between a Serbia(former Yugoslavia) and Russia(former USSR),it is new example of systemtic fail of education system of India.

@sancho

Mate,I am not a military expert like you,but i have a II degree of political sciences,section "Geopolitics in 21 century" University of Umea,Sweden.
I research geopolitics for almost my entire life.
United States of America is sole superpower.
There is no "Potential superpowers" in geopolitical terms,only "Great Powers who have ability to emerge as superpower"
And it is China,EU and Russia.Maybe Brazil but not in near future.
If you read a greatest theorist of geopolitics....Kissinger,Brzezinski and other,you would be familiar with Russian potential to re emerege as superpower once again.

That's the funny part, Russians are even supporting China on surpassing Russia (selling techs, engines, designs...).

This is story for one summer,blah blah media.
I speak Russian fluently,and I know that some anti Putin oposition blamed him for that story what you are talking right know,and then almost 10 military experts appeared on TV and explain that it is simply false.
It is just spin of Western military experts,just like in the Cold War.Ende.

 

[Astra-2013]

@Astra-2013
Mate you need education,when I was age of 6,i know almost every country in the world and their position on the globe.
You dont know the difference between a Serbia(former Yugoslavia) and Russia(former USSR),it is new example of systemtic fail of education system of India.

@sancho

Mate,I am not a military expert like you,but i have a II degree of political sciences,section "Geopolitics in 21 century" University of Umea,Sweden.
I research geopolitics for almost my entire life.
United States of America is sole superpower.
There is no "Potential superpowers" in geopolitical terms,only "Great Powers who have ability to emerge as superpower"
And it is China,India,EU and Russia.Maybe Brazil but not in near future.



This is story for one summer,blah blah media.
I speak Russian fluently,and I know that some anti Putin oposition blamed him for that story what you are talking right know,and then almost 10 military experts appeared on TV and explain that it is simply false.
It is just spin of Western military experts,just like in the Cold War.Ende.

I know difference between Serbia and Russia. You were supporting Russia in your posts, so i thought u were Russian.
Btw i was checking GDP growth rate of Russia , in 1st-quarter of 2014, their gdp growth rate was negative and @DejanSRB is dreaming about Russia helping India

 

[Viper0011.]

SCRAP THE FGFA with russians save $20 billion plus
BUY USA F35 lightening in future post 2020

This is one of the best post on the subject. This would be a smart decision for India actually. Uncle Sarkozy is milking you guys with Rafale deal, phew, $ 110 Mil per plane!!

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

You was saying that if today somthing like 1971 happened to India then Russia will came to save India.
-> first This is not 1971 at that time west was against us but now West is supporting India.We dont need russia now. And now Indian economy is 1.9trillion and in next five year it will be more than Russian economy. That means more defence budget growth. so we can hope to build or buy military equipment form west instead or your cheap and old technology equipment.

->our current enemies are pakistan and china, not US so we dont need Russia's help. instead of thinking about invasion of India You should fear about Invasion of your country by NATO. I think in by next decade you have to beg before china to save your country from NATO.
->Russia is a declining power. so come out of your dreams.

Ludicrous, NATO does not want to invade Russia.
NATO does want Russia to behave according to the Helsinki agreement.

 

[Imran Khan]

But , I don't know how can India take planes from France that just back stabbed Russia by refusing them the helicopter carrier ship ....

What kind of eternal friendship is that , when you need Russia you beg its interference but when Russia needs help you say

We love USA and its only super power....

PUTIN is reading my comments , and Putin , its time for you to see and decided

"Doodh ka Doodh , Pani Ka Pani"

its game of intreast that we pakistanis don't know shit abut sir

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Buying Saab would actually be a great idea, they have huge ammount of know how that would be useful for India. We just must look beyond the Gripen and for future fighters that could be developed with Saab.

Not sure that SAAB is for sale. Sweden just got out of the mess caused by Thyssen-Krupp buying the
Kockums Naval Wharf, and then started to obstruct our plans for next generation submarines.
It ended with SAAB buying TKMS (former Kockums) for a minor sum.
Don't think we want anyone else to have final say here.

A cooperation is a different thing.

 

[Astra-2013]

This is one of the best post on the subject. This would be a smart decision for India actually. Uncle Sarkozy is milking you guys with Rafale deal, phew, $ 110 Mil per plane!!

I m also supporting F35 if US also sale air launched PAC3 missile with it, after seeing this video
F-35 DAS and APG-81 radar for the JSF detect multiple rocket launches

DAS can detect rockets and missiles from 800 to 1000km distance. And i just checked max width of pakistan perpendicular to loc is less than 1000km
100 F35 with air launched PAC3 ABM guarding along antire LOC, and PAD, AAD, AD1,AD2 ground based ABM ,a space based missile detection system, it can give us 100% full proof ABM capability against pakistan.

 

[Ragnar]

This is one of the best post on the subject. This would be a smart decision for India actually. Uncle Sarkozy is milking you guys with Rafale deal, phew, $ 110 Mil per plane!!

A bird in hand is better than two in the bush. We are not closet US allies to pre-order planes like pizzas.