Ahmedis in a Chakwal village fear for their lives

[tahir195]

And where does it say it means the last?
Khatam an-Nabiyyin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and what is the meaning of the seal?

Seal hamesha akhir ma lagai jati hai take jis ma lagai hai na us ma se kuch bahar aye aur na hi andar jai

 

[karakoram]

Where is the word FINAL in Kalima Shahada and Kalima Tayyaba, you fool?

Anyone reciting Kalima Shahadah is a MUSLIM according to the Holy Prophet (SAW)!



So other sect of Islam is killing on mass like ISIS Caliphate, yet they are not expelled from the Ummah? Why this BS with the Ahmadies? And where did the prophet (SAW) put belief in last prophet in the Kalima Shahadah to become a Muslim?


In Switzerland, building minarets is actually banned on any type of construction since 2009. LOL
Swiss minaret referendum, 2009 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Who cares if they are not muslims according to ur view?


Al-Fazal is NOT a magazine. Its a daily newspaper of this sect published from Chenab Nagar, Pakistan:
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community -Alfazl Home Page - Daily from Rabwah and Weekly from London



Not internal but eternal


Ordinance XX as written by Zia ul Thug:
Ordinance XX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So your view is Hazrat Muhammad PBUH is not the final messenger ?

 

[tahir195]

And where does it say it means the last?
Khatam an-Nabiyyin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

aur tun ne meri baat to manni nhi to le net se hi defination dhek le

 

[Spring Onion]

So your view is Hazrat Muhammad PBUH is not the final messenger ?

That is what Qadyanis say. anyway this is known to all how ahmediya/qadyani movement started in India.

Indians are keen to take Pakistani non-Muslims and give them Indian citizenship . One wonders why India does not start an annual pilgrim for qadyanis in India. As qadyan is in India where the qadyaniyat was born

 

[midnightmasala]

That is what Qadyanis say. anyway this is known to all how ahmediya/qadyani movement started in India.

Indians are keen to take Pakistani non-Muslims and give them Indian citizenship . One wonders why India does not start an annual pilgrim for qadyanis in India. As qadyan is in India where the qadyaniyat was born

Wes consider them Muslim, and hence restriction

 

[tahir195]

this is not debate abou that they are muslims or not

agar wo MUSALMANO ke khelaf koi kam nhi kare aur un ki taleemat bus un ke jammat khano tak hi mhedod hai to unha pura haq jai is mulk ma rhena ka

Wes consider them Muslim, and hence restriction

wao awesome muslims are saying they are not one of us
and hindus are saying no they are muslim great
by the way we dont give a shit that what you think about of them or us

 

[Spring Onion]

Wes consider them Muslim, and hence restriction

why restriction? why Indians do bot start an annual pilgrim for qadyanis from around the world

 

[Musafir117]

kisi ne sahi kaha hai na ke bewakoofo se bewakoofana sawal hi krna chahiya

chal is ka jwab de jo kahe ke ma ye kallma pharta ho par quran ko nhi manta to kia wo muslim hai?


abay ghade mana believe ki baat ki hai kalme ki nhi

Kia QURAN nhi phara tu ne

مَّا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَآ أَحَدٍ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلَـٰكِن رَّسُولَ ٱللَّـهِ وَخَاتَمَ ٱلنَّبِيِّـۧنَ وَكَانَ ٱللَّـهُ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيمًا [note 1]
mā kāna muḥammadun abā aḥadin min rijālikum wa lākin rasūla ’llāhi wa khātama ’n-nabīyīna wa kāna ’llāhu bikulli shay’in ‘alīmā
"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things."

So you mean your Islam add a new thing to convert Muslim? What would you do to make a non Muslim to Muslim? Make him/her to read the verse you quoted? And don't be personal, neya kalima padh jo mein likha hai to become pure muslim

 

[Spring Onion]

So you mean your Islam add a new thing to convert Muslim? What would you do to make a non Muslim to Muslim? Make him/her to read the verse you quoted? And don't be personal, neya kalima padh jo mein likha hai to become pure muslim

anyone who claims prophethood after the Last Prophet of Islam, is a liar simple as that.

All Muslims including shias believe in finality of prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH).

 

[Zarvan]

They have the right to call whatever they may like no one including you or any other kind of molvi , mufti , mullah , scholar etc etc has any right to take that from them. Only decision maker is Allah and Allah shall decide on the day of judgement .



What your father did is precisely how it should be

No in Islamic state they don't. They are not Muslims that is clear but as minorities they have to be protected by the state. Nobody can be allowed to hurt them.

 

[Zarvan]

And where does it say it means the last?
Khatam an-Nabiyyin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It exactly means the last when you seal it you close it you freeze it that people who have no idea of Arabic ask the question which you just asked.

 

[tahir195]

this is not debate abou that they are muslims or not

agar wo MUSALMANO ke khelaf koi kam nhi kare aur un ki taleemat bus un ke jammat khano tak hi mhedod hai to unha pura haq jai is mulk ma rhena ka


wao awesome muslims are saying they are not one of us
and hindus are saying no they are muslim great

So you mean your Islam add a new thing to convert Muslim? What would you do to make a non Muslim to Muslim? Make him/her to read the verse you quoted? And don't be personal, neya kalima padh jo mein likha hai to become pure muslim

bhai tuj se to wohi baat kare jo tang utha kar peshab kare

jis QURAN nazar nhi a rha us par yakeen nhi to muj par kia ghanta yakeen kare ga

 

[Solomon2]

“We actively participated in the Pakistan Movement but today the space for our community is shrinking each day,”

But Ahmadis didn't participate in the Objectives Resolution that subordinated the fine advantages of European democracies and Western-style individual freedoms to "the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam". For it's the Objectives Resolution that's the foundation of today's Pakistan, not the original Pakistan Movement.

 

[Musafir117]

bhai tuj se to wohi baat kare jo tang utha kar peshab kare

jis QURAN nazar nhi a rha us par yakeen nhi to muj par kia ghanta yakeen kare ga

Well, I get your level of knowledge and standard of character don't quote me further.

 

[Pakistanisage]

No they are not.

Whether they are Muslims or not is irrelevant for me.

They are, however, Pakistani Citizens and have every right to be protected as a Minority.

It is shameful for Pakistani Government not to offer them protection.

The shameless people who attack Pakistani Minorities are enemies of Pakistani Nation and should be treated as such.