Ahmedis in a Chakwal village fear for their lives

[I.R.A]

This is silly, Mosques cannot have a patent on minarets .

Why you plan to build a Temple with minarets?

I guess Italy or some other European country banned mosques to have Minarets

 

[third eye]

Its our internal problem you should solve all your minority issue in india and then teach us humanity

Hello ?

Who talking of humanity ?

I was commenting on the law & indirectly on the intellect of those who enacted it .

Evidently, its greek to the likes of you.

As regards the ' internal problem" , India has 1,000,000 ahmedis who form 0.6 % of its Muslim populations and < 0.1 of its national population. Pakistan's ' internal' problems have invariably spilled over into India hence the observation.

 

[Pakistani E]

The army and law enforcement should guard their places of worship, and high profile clerics from their community should get state security

During the lahore attacks on our mosques an ahmadi retired officer phoned up his serving colleagues and asked for assistance, no assistance arrived. The army is the only institution which is non sectarion but it seems that extremists have also infiltrated that too.

 

[third eye]

Why you plan to build a Temple with minarets?

I guess Italy or some other European country banned mosques to have Minarets

Why is it so difficult to comprehend ?

Temples do not have priests starting with the Azan , hence no need for minarets.

European nations banned minarets citeing architectural and aesthetic reasons not because Churches have spires.

 

[Pakistani E]

They are not Muslims no other sect say that HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is not the last PROPHET or a PROPHET came after HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW they are not Muslims but still as non Muslims they should be fully protected by state.

I have always found it strange that this is a bone of contention. Since Ahmadis give same rank to Mirza Sahib that non ahmadi muslims say they will give to Hazrat Isa when he returns in their own beliefs. The difference of opinion is on the personality and not major beliefs as propagated by the ignorant.

 

[Norwegian]

no they are not Muslims, for being Muslim you have to believe that their is only one GOD ALLAH and PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) is his last messenger

Where is the word FINAL in Kalima Shahada and Kalima Tayyaba, you fool?

Anyone reciting Kalima Shahadah is a MUSLIM according to the Holy Prophet (SAW)!

They are not Muslims no other sect say that HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is not the last PROPHET or a PROPHET came after HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW they are not Muslims but still as non Muslims they should be fully protected by state.

So other sect of Islam is killing on mass like ISIS Caliphate, yet they are not expelled from the Ummah? Why this BS with the Ahmadies? And where did the prophet (SAW) put belief in last prophet in the Kalima Shahadah to become a Muslim?

This is silly, Mosques cannot have a patent on minarets .

In Switzerland, building minarets is actually banned on any type of construction since 2009. LOL
Swiss minaret referendum, 2009 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In my views They are not muslims but human beings and equal citizens of Pakistan so govt should give them protection.

Who cares if they are not muslims according to ur view?

I had a dear friend of mine, Mubarak Masood. He used to give me 'Al-fazal', an Ahmedi magazine, to read. We were perhaps in class 8 or 9. My father knew it, Masood saheb was my father's subordinate, but my father never stopped me from reading Al-Fazal. Point is, my father believed in his training and had no insecurity. Can we do the same and let go whatever insecurities we have with reference to the fragility of our religion?

Al-Fazal is NOT a magazine. Its a daily newspaper of this sect published from Chenab Nagar, Pakistan:
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community -Alfazl Home Page - Daily from Rabwah and Weekly from London

Its our internal problem you should solve all your minority issue in india and then teach us humanity

Not internal but eternal

According to law, a worship place of Ahmedis cannot have minarets or domes as it makes it resemble a mosque.

Which law is being quoted here ???

Ordinance XX as written by Zia ul Thug:
Ordinance XX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Shoonya]

No they are not.

no they are not Muslims, for being Muslim you have to believe that their is only one GOD ALLAH and PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) is his last messenger

Ahmedis
only believe on the first part

so they are not Muslims

No they are not ...but that does mean that they should be persecuted ....!

Its our internal problem you should solve all your minority issue in india and then teach us humanity

Indian Society discriminated against Dalits / Shudras. Now constitution protects them. And you will be surprised to know to get admissions in prestigious colleges Or for getting Govt Jobs these people have additional reserved Quota EVEN so called brahmans yearn to get fake Dalit certificates to be in that category.

 

[Pakistani E]

By building Minaras the Ahmedi Community violated the law ( those Minaras where demolished as per Law),

Then Christians in the west should demolish all mosques since the domes and the minerat were borrowed from the churches.

For them rest are non Muslims and for rest they are non Muslims. It is somewhat a tussle between two, @Pakistani Exile would say I am Sarkari Muslim and I would say he is self declared Muslim.

And this fight should not involve reaching for guns and ammo etc. We can debate if we want to and that is the only way. Nobody should die or be killed over it.

All sects believe themselves to be on the right and everyone else in error, why only hold it against Ahmadis? (Thanks for the tag, didn't know about this)

 

[syedali73]

Al-Fazal is NOT a magazine. Its a daily newspaper of this sect published from Chenab Nagar, Pakistan.

It is weekly magazine and not daily newspaper.

 

[Pakistani E]

It is weekly magazine and not daily newspaper.

There is an Al fazl daily too, together with weekly one. You are both right.

 

[Norwegian]

For them rest are non Muslims and for rest they are non Muslims. It is somewhat a tussle between two, @Pakistani Exile would say I am Sarkari Muslim and I would say he is self declared Muslim.

And a takfiri wahhabi would say you are both non-muslim infidels who should be executed immediately

And this fight should not involve reaching for guns and ammo etc. We can debate if we want to and that is the only way. Nobody should die or be killed over it.

LOL. Tell that to your blood thirsty clerics

The army is the only institution which is non sectarion but it seems that extremists have also infiltrated that too.

PAK ARMY has been in alliance with Islamist extremist parties for decades. It started with anti-Qadiani riots in Lahore incited by Jamat-e-Islami.
1953 Lahore riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ever since our so-called non-sectarian Army has been in cahoots with these terrorist / extremist groups. Don't you remember how JI colluded with PAK Army in their mass killings during Bangladesh war of liberation? The so-called 'Razakars'?
Razakars (Pakistan) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

European nations banned minarets cites architectural and aesthetic reasons not because Churches have spires.

No, only Switzerland did.

Indian Society discriminated against Dalits / Shudras. Now constitution protects then. And you will be surprised to know to get admissions in prestigious colleges Or for getting Govt Jobs these people have additional reserved Quota EVEN so called brahmans yearn to get fake Dalit certificates to be in that category.

Really? So why didn't your so-called constitution protect the toilets?

 

[Pakistani E]

@Topic.

Ahmadi minar tum ko kyun chubta hai?

 

[Norwegian]

Then Christians in the west should demolish all mosques since the domes and the minerat were borrowed from the churches.

European LAWS are generally not backover compatible. Once something is erected, it stays there forever.

All sects believe themselves to be on the right and everyone else in error, why only hold it against Ahmadis?

Because everyone else believes they are right as well

It is weekly magazine and not daily newspaper.

Daily:
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community -Alfazl Home Page - Daily from Rabwah

 

[punit]

No they are not.

during voting in 1947 referendum for pakistan they were full muslims! then one fine day in 1953 they were found to be not so muslim!

 

[Pakistani E]

PAK ARMY has been in alliance with Islamist extremist parties for decades. It started with anti-Qadiani riots in Lahore incited by Jamat-e-Islami.
1953 Lahore riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You will never find an Ahmadi who has bad things to say about the army. We love the army, I don't believe the army as a whole is anti ahmadiyya, it is just certain individuals. We fought alongside the army in 1947-48 as a community than as individuals in all the wars. There has not been a single war in Pakistan's history that Ahmadis have not fought in.

And during the 1953, the role of the army was admirable in putting down religious fascists. I just wish the army had remembered who were the people who made Pakistan and who were against it when Ahmadis were targeted 1973, 1984 etc.

Even after hearing about the case of army not coming to help during the lahore mosque attacks, I still love the army and hope that they can take back our country from the extremists.