Afzal khan and treachery of Shivaji

[anonymus]

well they all wanted to start the creation story from a clean slate.. but sumerians are the oldest one among those who had this story right?

They have one of the oldest written records too.

Writing is pretty recent phenomenon probably some 6000 years old .

Wasting 12,000 rupees for genetic test.

If you have money then it is not such a bad idea.

 

[INDIC]

well they all wanted to start the creation story from a clean slate.. but sumerians are the oldest one among those who had this story right?

Indus Valley civilization traded with Sumerians 5000 years back, so there can be a connection but you can't assume it as one way transfer.

 

[dawn_news]

So you think some foreign elements in South India?



Did you test you ancestry with that kit?

Well at this point since 23andme has stopped giving health reports. So its useless and waste of money, you will not gonna find anything special in your genetic test for ancestry reasons, it depends on your region, caste and there most already be some samples in HAP from your region.

 

[himalayah]

@Nuri Natt .

If you want to get an account of genetic anthropology of subcontinent,at least get it from proper sources like The genographic project of national geographic rather than filth of sites like harappa sharappa who have no scientific methodology and are run by amatures.

Here:

Who Am I: Reference Populations Overview

You could submit your DNA for analaysis even thought i would advise against it.

Just went through it. Fascinating. Never knew they had a project like this running. I was always looking for a credible source regarding those breakups.

An interesting thing is National Geographic confirms that outside admixture within past 10,000 years is very limited in the Indian population- i.e. only 5-10%. Whereas the highest concentration of south west Asian ancestry amongst tested groups (associated with first migrations from Africa) is also in India- around 40-50 percent in most Indian populations.

Things like this are always up for interpretation, but the unique proportions and types of ancestral origins of Indians from that link reinforces another paper I'd read which stated there was remarkable uniformity in the genetic composition of Indians, with external influences having a negligible impact over the past 15-20,000 years.

Thanks @Anonymous.

 

[SrNair]

Who told you they don't? South Indian brahmins has been tested and they clearly show higher ANI then natives 95% of population.



Harappadna analyse autosomal genetic data, do you know what does it mean? It break down ancestry in different groups. There are half dozens sites which do the same. The link you posted uses same technique just given different names to groups etc

Next time don't call it amature site it will only make you sound even more stupid. You have no idea of what you are talking about, buy some books.

Any proof?South India's native populations are now categorized as SC/ST/OBC Adivasis etc.

Well at this point since 23andme has stopped giving health reports. So its useless and waste of money, you will not gonna find anything special in your genetic test for ancestry reasons, it depends on your region, caste and there most already be some samples in HAP from your region.

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Yes racist because i don't believe in Out of India theory? Hindutvas are most retarded ones ever,

Again Do you have any proof?AIT is already rejected .OIT cant accept or reject because for both we need proof

 

[dawn_news]

@Nuri Natt .

If you want to get an account of genetic anthropology of subcontinent,at least get it from proper sources like The genographic project of national geographic rather than filth of sites like harappa sharappa who have no scientific methodology and are run by amatures.

Here:

Who Am I: Reference Populations Overview

You could submit your DNA for analaysis even thought i would advise against it.

From the link you posted.

North Indian

The 5% Northern European percentage represents more recent interaction with people of ultimately European origin, perhaps via the ancient Indo-Iranian-speaking steppe nomads of Central Asia, who are thought to have migrated into India around 3,500 years ago.

Basically even genographic is rejecting OIT and by ancient Indo-Iranian coming 3500 years ago they meant "Aryans". But since now its dirty word thanks to Nazis so they have stopped using it. Anyway they have explained it in very simple terms. There is genetic difference between castes and regions even in North India. So sites like HAP come at handy if one want to see detailed admixture of different people from all over South Asia. Now will you call that site racist for saying ancient Indo-Iranian speking steppe nomads of Central Asia migrated to South Asia 3500 years ago?

Because genographic sure seem to love the idea of them being European origin which is bs. Because if they migrated from Central Asia then how can they be europeans? Its like saying europeans have Indian origin after all Indians also have Euro genes, but they will never say that. So ultimately the site you posted seem quite racist to me.

Again Do you have any proof?AIT is already rejected .OIT cant accept or reject because for both we need proof

Look at the link @anonymus posted, even they reject OIT. No one believes in it a part from hindutvas. OIT is most rediclous theory ever.

 

[SrNair]

Form the link you posted.

North Indian

The 5% Northern European percentage represents more recent interaction with people of ultimately European origin, perhaps via the ancient Indo-Iranian-speaking steppe nomads of Central Asia, who are thought to have migrated into India around 3,500 years ago.

Basically even genographic is rejecting OIT and by ancient Indo-Iranian coming 3500 years ago they meant "Aryans". But since now its dirty word thanks to Nazis so they have stopped using it. Anyway they have explained it in very simple terms. There is genetic difference between castes, regions even in North India. Now will you call that site racist for saying ancient Indo-Iranian speking steppe nomads of Central Asia migrated to South Asia 3500 years ago?

Because genographic sure seem to love the idea of them being European origin which is bs. Because if they migrated from Central Asia then how can they be europeans? Its like saying europeans have Indian origin after all Indians also have Euro genes, but they will never say that. So ultimately the site you posted seem quite racist to me.



Look at the link @anonymus posted, even they reject OIT. No one believes in it a part from hindutvas. OIT is most rediclous theory ever.

AIT is also a ridiculous theory.We need proof to reject a theory and in different times historians debunk AIT .OIT may a fake ,but for that you must need solid evidence.

 

[dawn_news]

AIT is also a ridiculous theory.We need proof to reject a theory and in different times historians debunk AIT .OIT may a fake ,but for that you must need solid evidence.

Well AIT or AMT for a pc word are not ridiculous theory, far from it. Its the only theory accepted world wide. Even Indians accepted that a part from hindutvas of course.

 

[SrNair]

Well AIT or AMT for a pc word are not ridiculous theory, far from it. Its the only theory accepted world wide. Even Indians accepted that a part from hindutvas of course.

AIT also debunked by many reputed historians.Just google you can see that.IVC and Indian civilization is quite indigenous .We Indians create it.That culture is still prevails in India .Foreigner contribution is that they give some slightest change or Indian culture absorbs some of it element .Otherwise rest are same like it was in 5000 years ago.
Now stay on the topic.

 

[dawn_news]

AIT also debunked by many reputed historians.Just google you can see that.IVC and Indian civilization is quite indigenous .We Indians create it.That culture is still prevails in India .Foreigner contribution is that they give some slightest change or Indian culture absorbs some of it element .Otherwise rest are same like it was in 5000 years ago.
Now stay on the topic.

The only theory which get debunked is Nazi theory of aryan invasion. Like europeans invading south asia to spread culture and language theory get debunked. That theory is similar to OIT which isnt even given importance outside India.

 

[SrNair]

The only theory which get debunked is Nazi theory of aryan invasion. Like europeans invading south asia to spread culture and language theory get debunked. That theory is similar to OIT which isnt even given importance outside India.

Thats also what I am talking about.Indian culture is quite indigenous.Foreigners like Afzal khan and others did some modification .But still we follow that ancient indigenous culture.

 

[Informant]

AAAAAAaahhhh so this is where the saying comes from: "Baghal main churi main pe ram ram"

 

[WAR-rior]

AAAAAAaahhhh so this is where the saying comes from: "Baghal main churi main pe ram ram"

Exactly. Muslims invaders thot that trechery is their birth right and nobody else shud take it. Md. Ghouri defeated Prithviraj Chuhan after 15 attempts, everytime excused. The Muslims came and invaded temples, raped hindu women, all in name of Islam. Finally, when you got a person who answered u in ur own language and stylem, who ultimately decimated the Muslim Rule to a small state, you guyz are credible enough to cry foul? ''Everything is fair in Love and War'' - This saying came from the Arabs. Some reason right. So dont cry like babies when the same fair stuff was shoven into ur holes. Musalman kare to Chamatkar, Baki koi kare to Balatkar. This attitude will keep the world spitting and abusing u forever. Keep it Up.

 

[Informant]

Exactly. Muslims invaders thot that trechery is their birth right and nobody else shud take it. Md. Ghouri defeated Prithviraj Chuhan after 15 attempts, everytime excused. The Muslims came and invaded temples, raped hindu women, all in name of Islam. Finally, when you got a person who answered u in ur own language and stylem, who ultimately decimated the Muslim Rule to a small state, you guyz are credible enough to cry foul? ''Everything is fair in Love and War'' - This saying came from the Arabs. Some reason right. So dont cry like babies when the same fair stuff was shoven into ur holes. Musalman kare to Chamatkar, Baki koi kare to Balatkar. This attitude will keep the world spitting and abusing u forever. Keep it Up.

Rotu main to main mazaak kar raha tha. Rotu bhai rondi na dalein

 

[dawn_news]

Thats also what I am talking about.Indian culture is quite indigenous.Foreigners like Afzal khan and others did some modification .But still we follow that ancient indigenous culture.

You are not getting it. For the same reason hindutvas were humiliated in Carlifornia when they wanted to change history books. But guess some will never learn.