Aftermath of Removal of Article 35A and Article 370

[SIPRA]

My very dear Pak,

We need to see Kashmir siutation in the totality of the situation...

Have a look at our internal political and economic situation.

Kindly, see how #FazoolMullahMaffia is playing up the religion card and preparing the groudwork...

Please, have a close look at the #MarasiMedia and #Lifafaz doing antiState/AntiPak shows/tweets/columns...

Now put together the siutation of possible exit from Afghanistan and this supposed-to-be-crisis with Iran...

In this background gangadeshis are calculating that they can change the reality on the ground by changing the status of Kashmir... their calculation is that Pak is in no position to respond effectively... given gangadeshi assets on the ground in our political/media setup are creating chaos...

Then when you connect all these please also see the Sino-US tradewar... so the gangaz are thinking this is their last window of opportunity to change the situation...

However, they are mistaken...

@Verve @Areesh please, take note that our destiny is to FreeKashmir!

Mangus

May be, time for showing the cards is nearing, between India and Pakistan.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Ab to Kashmir mein Gangs of Wasseypur hoga.

Baap ka dada ka, bhai ka, sab ka badla lega re tera Faizal

 

[lightoftruth]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1157343484686348288

 

[Kabira]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1157343484686348288

These pseudo secular pro India politicians of Kashmir deserve this. You are either part of India or not. There is no middle ground. Special status with in country is oxymoron concept. This was going to happen

"It is the only Muslim majority state that rejected the two-nation theory and joined a democratic and secular India on the basis of the guarantees. Today, she said, there are efforts to do away with these assurances and guarantees." Mehbooba mufti

 

[Falcon29]

It bars Non-Residents of the J&K state from buying land in there. Thus Indians cant settle there, neither can they start businesses as they cant buy any property.
Article 370 provides special powers to J&K where it can govern itself for all matters except for Foreign relations, defence and communications and basically show the middle finger to Central Government for all other matters.

Thus J&K is that spoiled child which gets the protection, finances (more than any other child) and spends it all with no personal growth to show for it and yet roams around the house with an immeasurable arrogance as nobody can do anything coz 35A and 370 are there for its protection.

Interesting.

 

[Kaniska]

Result all the Indian Muslims, all 200 million of them would rise up against Gangadeshi Hindus which would lead to civil war. Then the Muslims of the world would rise up.

You are thinking too much...I hope BJP remove article 35 A and do not deceive people this time

 

[Shane]

Ab to Kashmir mein Gangs of Wasseypur hoga.

Baap ka dada ka, bhai ka, sab ka badla lega re tera Faizal

How charming of you to give such a crude reference...what else to expect from an Indian but to celebrate more potential blood bath in IOK.

 

[Soumitra]

My very dear Pak,

We need to see Kashmir siutation in the totality of the situation...

Have a look at our internal political and economic situation.

Kindly, see how #FazoolMullahMaffia is playing up the religion card and preparing the groudwork...

Please, have a close look at the #MarasiMedia and #Lifafaz doing antiState/AntiPak shows/tweets/columns...

Now put together the siutation of possible exit from Afghanistan and this supposed-to-be-crisis with Iran...

In this background gangadeshis are calculating that they can change the reality on the ground by changing the status of Kashmir... their calculation is that Pak is in no position to respond effectively... given gangadeshi assets on the ground in our political/media setup are creating chaos...

Then when you connect all these please also see the Sino-US tradewar... so the gangaz are thinking this is their last window of opportunity to change the situation...

However, they are mistaken...

@Verve @Areesh please, take note that our destiny is to FreeKashmir!

Mangus

If we scrap 370 and 35A what will you do?

Go crying to US, China, UN? They may give some lip service but won't lift a finger.

Attack us (with your proxies or directly)?

We are prepared for that. That is why we are moving 35000+ additional troops and evacuating Amarnaath Yatris and Students

 

[Psychic]

Well they also sprouted a brain and know that most people do not want to pay taxes. So exactly how would a war be funded? By PMIK going around the world raising chanda from ex-pat Pakistani's??

Who is asking them to fight a war? No one expects Westren boot-lickers to fight for Kashmir when they allowed Indians to fence the territory they claimed was their's in the first place. How disgraceful.

All they did "for" Kashmir cause was crackdown on freedom fighters to appease the West and East---At a time when Dehli was holding talks with Hizb leaders in Srinagar, your British trained officer corps back stabbed the freedom movement to appease the West.

In the entire history of Pakistan, Pakistan army never added an inch of territory but lost many square kilometers worth of territory. Siachen, Kargil are examples from Kashmir front.

Do tell me how many centimeter squares were liberated by Pakistan Army in Kashmir in 47-48. During the time when the army was sitting on it's behind, lightly armed locals liberated some 13k square kilometers, in addition to GB.

Funds are available for golf clubs, DHA housing for ex-officers, land grabbing, for purchasing useless overpriced foreign hardware with kickbacks for British-trained officers included but lack of funds for a bunch of kilashinkovs for Kashmiris.

Of course, other than fighting a war, everything else is army's job. Fighting is not it's job; "evil mullahs" provide freelancers real cheap, they had bogged down India's army in Kashmir literally on CHANDA in the 90s.

As far as taxes are concerned, we do not make bucket-loads of money to pay tones of taxes. Those who do are the trader and business community, not the average Pakistani. Our native area is soaked with blood of jawans who made the ultimate sacrifice for the motherland; blood is only thing which poor people of our area have to offer and they will willingly do it, so know your place before you talk cr@p about us not paying taxes.

"It is the only Muslim majority state that rejected the two-nation theory and joined a democratic and secular India on the basis of the guarantees. Today, she said, there are efforts to do away with these assurances and guarantees." Mehbooba mufti

Funny thing is, these guarantees were also available to them had they joined AJK.

It bars Non-Residents of the J&K state from buying land in there. Thus Indians cant settle there, neither can they start businesses as they cant buy any property.
Article 370 provides special powers to J&K where it can govern itself for all matters except for Foreign relations, defence and communications and basically show the middle finger to Central Government for all other matters.

Thus J&K is that spoiled child which gets the protection, finances (more than any other child) and spends it all with no personal growth to show for it and yet roams around the house with an immeasurable arrogance as nobody can do anything coz 35A and 370 are there for its protection.

J&K is a recognized disputed territory by UN with UNSC resolutions on it, hence the special status.
Special status exists for AJK as well.

India fails to act upon UNSC resolutions-

India doesn't want to resolve the dispute-

India involved in gross human right violations which include massacares, rapes, torture and humiliation of Kashmiris-

Massive movement against Indian occupation-

India doesn't allow UN observers-

India rejected UN reports on human rights violations in Kashmir-

90K civillians killed, 10K women molested, extrajudicial killings and torture under custody---------And this guy thinks Kashmiris are spoiled child for demanding their right of self-determination granted to them as per UNSC resolutions. Attempts to buy their loyalties through "funds" (as per this guy) failed, harsh approach had also failed and will fail this time as well.
@Falcon29

 

[Rakesh]

Who is asking them to fight a war? No one expects Westren boot-lickers to fight for Kashmir when they allowed Indians to fence the territory they claimed was their's in the first place. How disgraceful.

All they did "for" Kashmir cause was crackdown on freedom fighters to appease the West and East---At a time when Dehli was holding talks with Hizb leaders in Srinagar, your British trained officer corps back stabbed the freedom movement to appease the West.

In the entire history of Pakistan, Pakistan army never added an inch of territory but lost many square kilometers worth of territory. Siachen, Kargil are examples from Kashmir front.

Do tell me how many centimeter squares were liberated by Pakistan Army in Kashmir in 47-48. During the time when the army was sitting on it's behind, lightly armed locals liberated some 13k square kilometers, in addition to GB.

Funds are available for golf clubs, DHA housing for ex-officers, land grabbing, for purchasing useless overpriced foreign hardware with kickbacks for British-trained officers included but lack of funds for a bunch of kilashinkovs for Kashmiris.

Of course, other than fighting a war, everything else is army's job. Fighting is not it's job; "evil mullahs" provide freelancers real cheap, they had bogged down India's army in Kashmir literally on CHANDA in the 90s.

As far as taxes are concerned, we do not make bucket-loads of money to pay tones of taxes. Those who do are the trader and business community, not the average Pakistani. Our native area is soaked with blood of jawans who made the ultimate sacrifice for the motherland; blood is only thing which poor people of our area have to offer and they will willingly do it, so know your place before you talk cr@p about us not paying taxes.


Funny thing is, these guarantees were also available to them had they joined AJK.


J&K is a recognized disputed territory by UN with UNSC resolutions on it, hence the special status.
Special status exists for AJK as well.

India fails to act upon UNSC resolutions-

India doesn't want to resolve the dispute-

India involved in gross human right violations which include massacares, rapes, torture and humiliation of Kashmiris-

Massive movement against Indian occupation-

India doesn't allow UN observers-

India rejected UN reports on human rights violations in Kashmir-

90K civillians killed, 10K women molested, extrajudicial killings and torture under custody---------And this guy thinks Kashmiris are spoiled child for demanding their right of self-determination granted to them as per UNSC resolutions. Attempts to buy their loyalties through "funds" (as per this guy) failed, harsh approach had also failed and will fail this time as well.
@Falcon29

Ghalib said....

رگوں میں دوڑتے پھرنے کے ہم نہیں قائل
جب آنکھ ہی سے نہ ٹپکا تو پھر لہو کیا ہے

ragoñ meñ dauḌte phirne ke ham nahīñ qaa.il

jab aañkh hī se na Tapkā to phir lahū kyā hai

That sums up Pakistan's Kashmir policy in last 70 years. (from Kashmiri's point of view.)

 

[Psychic]

That sums up Pakistan's Kashmir policy in last 70 years.

We did bleed from eyes from 65 till 2003.

Kashmiris didn't share enthusiasm of their brethren from AJK in 65 tho. And are paying the price today.

Government and generals changed that policy of blood tears post cease-fire agreement of 2003. Now the policy is to provide intelligence to Indians, crackdown on any suspected support for Kashmiri rebels and offers to take action against the perpetrators of Pulwama "tragedy".
Public esp of AJK is ready for any sacrifice tho.

 

[Aryan0395]

Special status exists for AJK as well.

Is that why no news about protests comes out of AJK and only some short twitter videos? Im sure that special status is being enforces with all the might of army and not the constitution.

India fails to act upon UNSC resolutions-

Oh for god's sake. As per UN move, Pak is required to make the first move by withdrawing their forces from Jammu and Kashmir, the part that is illegally under Pak occupation ie P-O-K which Pak likes to call AJK. (like seriously couldnt think of something better?? lol)

India doesn't want to resolve the dispute-

Even at the time of Partition, India offered Kashmir and northern areas of Kashmir it Gilgil and Jammu and Ladakh will stay with India yet Jinnah refused.
It was a workable option.
And btw lets look at timeline for terror attacks that have happened just after peace talks too place between India and Pak government.
(I already know you are gonna call them false flag Indian sponsored attacks because Pakistan is actually Pak and doesn't do anything besides preaching peace)
1999:- lahore declaration, kargil takes place.
2001: Musharraf in India for a summit with Vajpayee, Attack on Parliament.
2008:- Gas pipeline treaty signed, Indian Kabul embassy gets bombed, India pushes through talks, Attacks in Mumbai take place.
Now check yourself, every Indian govt has approached Pak govt or vice versa, attack takes place to throw off the process. You need to get your house in order so that peace talks can take place.

India involved in gross human right violations which include massacares, rapes, torture and humiliation of Kashmiris-

All OIC reports, and what incidents actually take place, culprits get brought to justice.

Massive movement against Indian occupation-

Operation Gibraltar.
Pak started that armed resistance. It was all cool before that 90's. Also I see you are pained by the situation of Muslims, who drove out the Kashmiris Hindus? they have a right to be resettled there, their land is still there, homes still standing. Its not changing the demography, its restoring the demography.

India doesn't allow UN observers-

Damn right we wont, dont give a shit about UN group. Its an India state, we hold the right to refuse. You can bring it up as many times as you want, wont change a thing.

And this guy thinks Kashmiris are spoiled child for demanding their right of self-determination

Just kashmir has been holding Jammu and ladakh hostage. Stopping development from taking place, hoarding the assembly and Parliament. Majority of representation in these institutions is from Kashmir.
Damn right Kashmiris are the spoilt child who have denied rights to Jammu and Ladakh as well. They have been governing their state themselves, local laws are by them even for business. Where are the big business houses? Where are the big hotel chains as J&K even with all the issues is a big tourist destination? Where are big retail chains? In all these decades of independence, J&K govt couldnt even make one super specialty hospital from scratch, 1 good college or 1 good school without the help of central govt even with all the money it gets. Where did all that money go? Dams and powerplants are generally funded by Central Government.
Damn right this a case of spoilt child which needs to be brought in line.
I am sympathetic to the plight of Kashmiri citizens, ordinary people who dont support terrorism but the truth is they should have chosen better people to represent them.

 

[thinkingcap81]

I am whatsapping someone in sopore right now so I don’t think you are aware of the ground reality.

Ill repeat it for the umpteenth time, India HAD its victory in Kashmir prior to this fascism with Modi. The Kashmiri youth had moved onto careers and economic improvement. They were cheering Yuvraj and traveling all over the world as Indians.

Your insecure majority voted in a fascist government that lost that plot completely.

Stone pelting started in significant amounts during Dr. Manmohan Singh's tenure. At that time security agencies had sounded the alarm about disenchantment and increased radicalisation amongst a section of Kashmiri youth.

I'm not saying that the present dispensation is very kind on Muslims. However, exonerating one regime and putting the entire blame on another is disingenuous. Pakistan has and continues to support Kashmiris in all forms inspite of incurring tremendous losses in multiple domains.

 

[newb3e]

down with hindu racist sarkar!!

free Kashmir!

 

[SQ8]

Stone pelting started in significant amounts during Dr. Manmohan Singh's tenure. At that time security agencies had sounded the alarm about disenchantment and increased radicalisation amongst a section of Kashmiri youth.

I'm not saying that the present dispensation is very kind on Muslims. However, exonerating one regime and putting the entire blame on another is disingenuous. Pakistan has and continues to support Kashmiris in all forms inspite of incurring tremendous losses in multiple domains.

Supporting the Kashmiris is principle to foreign policy but to suggest that all of trouble and angst is instigated by Pakistan is disingenuous as well.

Stone pelting may have increased but only after hard policy changes. Economics and uplift of an area are the pathway to integration, suppression and fascism arent.