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NEW DELHI: The defence ministry is set to take a call on a $2.5-billion purchase of new air defence systems for the Army after Russia strongly protested the selection of a South Korean manufacturer and sought a re-evaluation, claiming it was unfairly disqualified.

The high-powered Defence Acquisition Committee (DAC) is expected to look into the matter this month and decide on a way ahead for the critical purchase of selfpropelled air defence gun missile system (SPAD-GMS), people aware of the development said.

The Indian Army wants five regiments of the guns that can be deployed with forward moving forces and can be quickly relocated on the basis of threat perception.

After extensive trials in all terrains, including the deserts, the only system to qualify for the 104 systems contract was the K-30 Biho (Flying Tiger) developed by South Korea’s Hanwha Defense. Two separate systems offered by Russia — upgraded Tunguska M1 and Pantsir missile systems — failed the tests, with the most critical being mobility trials where they could not perform as per the requirements, sources said.

While Hanwha was shortlisted early last year, the case has not moved ahead to the next stage of price negotiations mainly due to several objections and complaints by the Russian side, including a formal complaint to the ministry’s internal monitoring committee that monitors acquisition cases.

Russia is seeking another chance for field trials to prove its systems meet all technical requirements.

The Army, however, has been satisfied with the quality of the trials and is believed to be in favour of moving on the acquisition case to the next stage of price negotiations, sources said.

Selection of the K-30 Biho came as a shock to the Russian side that has been the traditional supplier of mobilised ground systems to the Indian Army.

A final call on the matter will have to be taken by the DAC, where the issue is expected to come up shortly. Report of the internal monitoring committee will be taken into consideration before a final decision is made.

The case for acquisition of the air defence systems commenced in 2013, with all competitors going through several rounds of trials that took two years to complete. The selection of K-30 Biho was the second major win for a Korean system in India, after the procurement of the K-9 `Vajra’ self-propelled artillery systems.

MoD: After Russia protests, MoD to take call on $2.5 bn deal - The Economic Times


If won, the Koreans beat the Russians in another mobile armored platform.
 
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Why should India care what Russia thinks?!

If the Korean system met the IA's requirements and the Russian offering did not, then India needs to go with the Korean offering.
 
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So the Korean system WILL DEFINITELY be acquired. Russia can complain but the parameters set cannot be changed to suit Russia. It will have to live with India's choice and learn as it has learn't on many other instances where Russia has not been the vendor
 
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NEW DELHI: The defence ministry is set to take a call on a $2.5-billion purchase of new air defence systems for the Army after Russia strongly protested the selection of a South Korean manufacturer and sought a re-evaluation, claiming it was unfairly disqualified.

The high-powered Defence Acquisition Committee (DAC) is expected to look into the matter this month and decide on a way ahead for the critical purchase of selfpropelled air defence gun missile system (SPAD-GMS), people aware of the development said.

The Indian Army wants five regiments of the guns that can be deployed with forward moving forces and can be quickly relocated on the basis of threat perception.

After extensive trials in all terrains, including the deserts, the only system to qualify for the 104 systems contract was the K-30 Biho (Flying Tiger) developed by South Korea’s Hanwha Defense. Two separate systems offered by Russia — upgraded Tunguska M1 and Pantsir missile systems — failed the tests, with the most critical being mobility trials where they could not perform as per the requirements, sources said.

While Hanwha was shortlisted early last year, the case has not moved ahead to the next stage of price negotiations mainly due to several objections and complaints by the Russian side, including a formal complaint to the ministry’s internal monitoring committee that monitors acquisition cases.

Russia is seeking another chance for field trials to prove its systems meet all technical requirements.

The Army, however, has been satisfied with the quality of the trials and is believed to be in favour of moving on the acquisition case to the next stage of price negotiations, sources said.

Selection of the K-30 Biho came as a shock to the Russian side that has been the traditional supplier of mobilised ground systems to the Indian Army.

A final call on the matter will have to be taken by the DAC, where the issue is expected to come up shortly. Report of the internal monitoring committee will be taken into consideration before a final decision is made.

The case for acquisition of the air defence systems commenced in 2013, with all competitors going through several rounds of trials that took two years to complete. The selection of K-30 Biho was the second major win for a Korean system in India, after the procurement of the K-9 `Vajra’ self-propelled artillery systems.

MoD: After Russia protests, MoD to take call on $2.5 bn deal - The Economic Times


If won, the Koreans beat the Russians in another mobile armored platform.

indians are arming themselves at a frenetic pace ...gearing up for a war?
 
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Why should India care what Russia thinks?!

If the Korean system met the IA's requirements and the Russian offering did not, then India needs to go with the Korean offering.

Behind the scenes India cannot upset uncle Sam.
 
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indians are arming themselves at a frenetic pace ...gearing up for a war?

No, there are so many things that need to be modernized yesterday.

Indent to replace Schilka over time.

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indians are arming themselves at a frenetic pace ...gearing up for a war?

70% of our military equipment is obsolete 60s era junk which we need to upgrade.... all our purchases will go to NIL once our nuclear submarines are armed with K series missiles... we'll have luxury to stop purchases and concentrate on homemade weapons completely
 
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70% of our military equipment is obsolete 60s era junk which we need to upgrade.... all our purchases will go to NIL once our nuclear submarines are armed with K series missiles... we'll have luxury to stop purchases and concentrate on homemade weapons completely

Why not just shrink land forces size and then it would be possible to give better gear, training, and other things for every soldier with same or smaller budget. India doesn't need that many soldiers as Pakistan is much smaller by default and land war with China would be fought on mountains where numbers don't matter as much.

India could probably defend itself better with well equipped & trained 500-600k land forces vs over 1 million soldiers who are worse equipped, etc.
 
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Why not just shrink land forces size and then it would be possible to give better gear, training, and other things for every soldier with same or smaller budget. India doesn't need that many soldiers as Pakistan is much smaller by default and land war with China would be fought on mountains where numbers don't matter as much.

India could probably defend itself better with well equipped & trained 500-600k land forces vs over 1 million soldiers who are worse equipped, etc.

Considering the size of our landmass to protect even current Man power is not enough.... We need army as big as China but we can't afford it..... Regarding better gears and sophistication we are not like Israel, Turkey, Japan or South Korea.... We are facing two nuclear powers with one having largest and another having 5th largest militaries on planet and hence our doctrine is to fight a war with numbers and brute force.... Our doctrine is same as Soviets....
 
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