After Malaysia, Trade With Turkey Under Government Scanner For Interfering In India’s Internal Issue

[W.11]

No, I wrote that the government did not have any moral attitude on this issue and that caused great public discomfort. I think it was another kind of answer that you want to hear.

just like the turkish people are pushing for more moral attitude, Pakistanis themselves in this very forum have pushed for moral stance on xinjiang as opposed to more pragmatic govt's policy, so if turkish public wants moral stance on xinjiang while pragmatic stance on kashmir, then this will also push Pakistanis to question and reconsider its moral stance on xinjiang.

regards

 

[Max]

Same thing applies for us as well.

No same thing don't apply on you, India is not your neighbour, unlike China Pakistan case. You are not as dependent on India (infact India is more dependent on your if you consider their trade surplus with you) as Pakistan is dependent on China.

China called 2 UNSC meeting on Kashmir, who will raise Kashmir in UNSC if we poke China? Yanks? France? British?

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

The bold part is a big fat lie, I'm afraid.If PDF Pakistani posters are any indication, majority Pakistanis would rather look the other way while Uyghurs get butchered & support the Chinese regime in this.
In fact, I have been attacked most by Pakistani posters than I have been by the Chinese ones for speaking out against the atrocities in Xinjiang.Some called me an Indian false flagger out to sabotage the relations of China & Pakistan.
Funnily enough, these are the very same posters who were thanking my posts left & right when I was speaking out for our oppressed brothers in Kashmir.

Don't get me wrong. I understand the position of Pakistani govt in staying silent about this.You need China against India & world stage.
However, I expected better from the common Pakistanis.

Thank you bro shining the truth about Pakistan and Pakistanis on Uyghur issue from your own perspective.
This is the proof of how hippocrates are they when it's about China&Uyghurs.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Thank you bro shining the truth about Pakistan and Pakistanis on Uyghur issue from your own perspective.
This is the proof of how hippocrates are they when it's about China&Uyghurs.

Bro not all are hypocrites.
There are some Pakistani brothers who hasn't lost their sense of morality & Islamic brotherhood yet.Although they are a minority in this forum.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

No same thing don't apply on you, India is not your neighbour, unlike China Pakistan case. You are not as dependent on India (infact India is more dependent on your if you consider their trade surplus with you) as Pakistan is dependent on China.

China called 2 UNSC meeting on Kashmir, who will raise Kashmir in UNSC if we poke China? Yanks? France? British?

These sentences prove how selfish benign are you... If it's Pakistan everything is ok and right but if it's for my country or my blood brothers, it's not ok...

 

[Max]

The bold part is a big fat lie, I'm afraid.If PDF Pakistani posters are any indication, majority Pakistanis would rather look the other way while Uyghurs get butchered & support the Chinese regime in this.
In fact, I have been attacked most by Pakistani posters than I have been by the Chinese ones for speaking out against the atrocities in Xinjiang.Some called me an Indian false flagger out to sabotage the relations of China & Pakistan.
Funnily enough, these are the very same posters who were thanking my posts left & right when I was speaking out for our oppressed brothers in Kashmir.

Don't get me wrong. I understand the position of Pakistani govt in staying silent about this.You need China against India & world stage.
However, I expected better from the common Pakistanis.

This forum is hub of uber Nationalism, don't take it as representative of Pakistani populus, average PDFers are are more aware of international realities then average emotional Abdullah in streets of Pakistan.

Better example would be to see the post of Pakistani media about Uyghurs and response of Pakistanis, see how Pakistanis respond to Chinese deputy chief of mission Lijan Zhao on Twitter or better read Urdu media.

These sentences prove how selfish benign are you... If it's Pakistan everything is ok and right but if it's for my country or my blood brothers, it's not ok...

No logical answer, just rants. Rants won't clear misunderstandings.

 

[Trango Towers]

Exactly this is what I was thinking for you. When you were at fully support China, can you blame us? No not really...

You keep saying YOU...yeti have made my position clear. Neither you nor I represent our governments and hence our positions should nit be dictated by the the stance of politicians. Generally politicians are liars. With respect to Ughair...I am firmly with Turkey

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

Bro not all are hypocrites.
There are some Pakistani brothers who hasn't lost their sense morality & Islamic brotherhood yet.Although they are a minority in this forum.

I am aware of it bro. But most of Pakistanis in favor of China.
Pakistani gov doesn't give a fck about Uyghurs so why my gov would give a fck about Kashmir?
Unfortunately we have a guy who called tayyip and he is perfect at bringing our country in every Fcking problems even they don't concern us. Then my people suffer.
Look Pakistani gov. they are perfectly good at being selfish...

 

[dBSPL]

just like the turkish people are pushing for more moral attitude, Pakistanis themselves in this very forum have pushed for moral stance on xinjiang as opposed to more pragmatic govt's policy, so if turkish public wants moral stance on xinjiang while pragmatic stance on kashmir, then this will also push Pakistanis to question and reconsider its moral stance on xinjiang.

regards

Oh I got you now. No need to falsify my words for what you want to say. If you want to create a fiction by matching the topics, the place to look is not Xinjiang, but the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Turkey's stance on the Kashmir issue since the 1950s is evident. It doesn't even have a direct relationship with Pakistan. We want UN resolutions to be implemented. We do not demand these lands to be connected to Pakistan, we want the plebiscite road to be opened. To label this as a pragmatic relationship is so strange and it has no good intentions.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

You keep saying YOU...yeti have made my position clear. Neither you nor I represent our governments and hence our positions should nit be dictated by the the stance of politicians. Generally politicians are liars. With respect to Ughair...I am firmly with Turkey

I use "you" as general not personal...

 

[BringHarmony]

These sentences prove how selfish benign are you... If it's Pakistan everything is ok and right but if it's for my country or my blood brothers, it's not ok...

How much support does general Turkish folks have for Uighur Muslims in China? Is it a well known issue or is it only present among academics or conservatives?

 

[Trango Towers]

I use "you" as general not personal...

Well hope u understand where I am coming from

 

[LeGenD]

There are thousands of Indians work in Malaysia. Malaysian govt should throw them out.

This is not easy. Indians are occupying important positions in different corporations in Malaysia. Many are in the management.

Malaysia's greatest issue is that its own men are not up to the task. They enjoy the perks while foreigners work.

I wonder how Malaysia will manage after Muhammad Mahathir. This guy was a genius and took Malaysia to new heights but he is not immortal.

 

[dBSPL]

How much support does general Turkish folks have for Uighur Muslims in China? Is it a well known issue or is it only present among academics or conservatives?

Large masses from different ideological circles(from nationalists to islamists) are very sensitive on this issue and are harshly criticizing the government's attitude.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

How much support does general Turkish folks have for Uighur Muslims in China? Is it a well known issue or is it only present among academics or conservatives?

Whole nation has support for Uighurs. Our traitor gov. puts pressure on the media to censor all the news from China.