After lifetime with the poor, Mother Teresa speeds to sainthood

[Nilgiri]

Christianity in its essence is a middle eastern religion...but unlike the other two middle eastern religions where the case was "those who made it spread it" Christianity was adopted by Europeans and then spread around the world.

Well the Turks and Persians played a big role in expanding Islam as well....they certainly were not the makers of Islam.

 

[Anubis]

Well the Turks and Persians played a big role in expanding Islam as well....they certainly were not the makers of Islam.

They are all middle-eastern....compared to differences between Jewish Jesus and Roman Constantine....Arabs Turks and Persians are practically brothers.

The principal of my high school is also being considered for beatification...if it goes through we will have our own saint.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

There is so much hate in this thread for Mother Teresa. And I once donated all my pocket money to the missionary.

I also did when I was in school. They were on a world tour kind of thing and our school organized an outreach program.

That money was probably 'well' utilized by them. To print copies of pocket Bible and give them to dying Hindu and Muslim patients.

We were onced asked by school to attend MoC session in our school. After the session (which we all spent half-awake, we were like 10 year old back then), we were given 2 handbooks (liiustrated picture books with very good quality print and paper) on life and stories of jesus.

I don't understand what charity they performed, or rather tried to perform over young, unmoulded minds of 10 year olds.

Same story. We were all given a cute small blue bound pocket New Testament. In a Hindu missionary school.

Suffice to say - Hindus in general (take that PC) are idiots.

 

[footmarks]

I also did when I was in school. They were on a world tour kind of thing and our school organized an outreach program.

That money was probably 'well' utilized by them. To print copies of pocket Bible and give them to dying Hindu and Muslim patients.


Same story. We were all given a cute small blue bound pocket New Testament. In a Hindu missionary school.

Suffice to say - Hindus in general (take that PC) are idiots.

We are never short of gods, and any new addition to the list is welcome. More the gods, better the chances our prayers are heard. On one hand it does make us the most secular and most open religion, on the other hand, it makes us weak

 

[VivasvatManu]

We are never short of gods, and any new addition to the list is welcome. More the gods, better the chances our prayers are heard. On one hand it does make us the most secular and most open religion, on the other hand, it makes us weak

Its not the addition of gods that makes us weak, its our inability to apply our mind that makes us suckers.

In an earlier age when the Media was controlled by vested interests, ignorance was a valid excuse. Today in the age of the internet, ignorance can no longer be an excuse.

Poverty p0rn gives us "saint" Theresa, "city of joy" and "slumdog Millionaire" and while Indians pay money to watch all these spectacles , the world laughs at us.

We pay the price of her "sainthood" with our pride and dignity and the countless deaths in Calcutta on which she built her empire. All the while we cheer while the world jeers. Ignorant forever.

 

[footmarks]

Its not the addition of gods that makes us weak, its our inability to apply our mind that makes us suckers.

In an earlier age when the Media was controlled by vested interests, ignorance was a valid excuse. Today in the age of the internet, ignorance can no longer be an excuse.

Poverty p0rn gives us "saint" Theresa, "city of joy" and "slumdog Millionaire" while Indians pay money to watch all these spectacles while the world laughs at us.

We pay the price of her "sainthood" with our pride and dignity and the countless deaths in Calcutta on which she built her empire. All the while we cheer while the world jeers. Ignorant forever.

Religions thrive on plight, fear and sufferings (though some rely on caliphates too). If there are no sufferings, if everyone is happy and content, religion will die.

 

[VivasvatManu]

Religions thrive on plight, fear and sufferings (though some rely on caliphates too). If there are no sufferings, if everyone is happy and content, religion will die.

Not all religion.

Hinduism flourished when India had one of the highest GDP in the world. Buddhism flourished in prosperous India and so did Jainism.

But certain religion does thrive on human suffering. Especially those who have a replica of a torture device as their holy symbol. (cross). They first cause it and then create 'saints' who pretend to remove it.

 

[footmarks]

Not all religion.

Hinduism flourished when India had one of the highest GDP in the world. Buddhism flourished in prosperous India and so did Jainism.

But certain religion does thrive on human suffering. Especially those who have a replica of a torture device as their holy symbol. (cross). They first cause it and then create 'saints' who pretend to remove it.

Jainism flourished when Chandragupta maurya became a jain, buddhism flourished when Ashoka endorsed it. Hinduism also spread when the powerful kings were hindus. All over history, read about spread of any religion, when king adopted a religion, the "praja" also did the same. One can speculate the reason for it, i believe fear was the prime reason.

 

[A_Poster]

Jainism flourished when Chandragupta maurya became a jain, buddhism flourished when Ashoka endorsed it. Hinduism also spread when the powerful kings were hindus. All over history, read about spread of any religion, when king adopted a religion, the "praja" also did the same. One can speculate the reason for it, i believe fear was the prime reason.

Jainism's highest watermark was not during reign of Changdragupta Maurya, but during middle ages and is cognate with rise of Indo-Roman trade. If never depended on Kings, but was a religion favored by merchants.

Buddhism is even more removed from Ashoka. The highest subscriber of Buddhism were during Kanishka's and Kushan reign. It too was a religion preferred by merchants. It started decline in middle of first century CE.

When you say that "praja" adopts King's religion ,you are absolutely wrong. This view is an example of hold of western constructs over us. In west where King's power were unbounded, and he acted as leader of a large tribe, this people following their sovereign was common. In India, where King was bound by religious and caste laws, and where kingship was considered as a caste duty by general population, King had no hold over spirituality of people. There are no instances of mass conversion ,due to kings converting, in Indian history, like there are in danish history.

 

[Grevion]

I also did when I was in school. They were on a world tour kind of thing and our school organized an outreach program.

That money was probably 'well' utilized by them. To print copies of pocket Bible and give them to dying Hindu and Muslim patients.


Same story. We were all given a cute small blue bound pocket New Testament. In a Hindu missionary school.

Suffice to say - Hindus in general (take that PC) are idiots.

Actually my school was run by the Roman Catholic Diocesan Education Society(R.C.D.E.S). So you know where the affiliation came from.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Actually my school was run by the Roman Catholic Diocesan Education Society(R.C.D.E.S). So you know where the affiliation came from.

Our school authorities were stupid. Or 'Indian Secular'.

 

[VivasvatManu]

Jainism flourished when Chandragupta maurya became a jain, buddhism flourished when Ashoka endorsed it. Hinduism also spread when the powerful kings were hindus. All over history, read about spread of any religion, when king adopted a religion, the "praja" also did the same. One can speculate the reason for it, i believe fear was the prime reason.

That is a piece of falsified history created by the British.

If "Fear" and "kings" is the primary reason for people changing religion then ALL of India should have been either Muslim or Christian

The Portuguese tortured Hindus for 250 years in Goa and dominated them for 500 years, and still Goa is only 25% christian.

Jain Munis existed thousands of years before Chandragupta Maurya.

Hinduism and buddhism spread in India due to the teaching of Dharma. In Any case the whole spin of "buddha" staring a new religion is again a british invention. Buddha was a Hindu Rishi or as we call in the new age, a "baba". He belonged to the Nirvana Akhada.

This is the detailed record of the list of Shankracharys from the records of Kanchi Peeth,

1. Sureshwaracharya 477 - 407 BC
2. Sarvgyatman 407 - 364 BC
3. Satyabodh 364 - 268 BC
4. Gyanananda 268 - 205 BC
5. Suddhananda 205 - 124 BC
6. Anandananda 124 - 55 BC
7. Kaivalyananda 55 BC - 28 AD
8. Kripashankar 28 - 69 AD
9. Sureshwar 69 - 127 AD
10. Shivanand Chidghan 127 - 172 AD
11. Chandrashekhar I 172 - 235 AD
12. Sachchidghan 235 - 272 AD
13. Vidyaghan 272 - 317 AD
14. Gangadhar I 317 - 329 AD
15. Ujjval Sankar 329 - 367 AD
16. Sadashiva 367 - 375 AD
17. Surendra 375 - 385 AD
19. Mook Sankar 385 - 398 AD
18. Vidyaghan 398 - 437 AD
20. Chandrashekhar II 437 - 447 AD
21. Bodhendra I 447 - 481 AD
22. Sachchitsukh 481 - 512 AD
23. Chitsukh 512 - 527 AD
24. Sachchidanandghan 527 - 548 AD
25. Pragyan Ghan 548 - 564 AD
26. Chidvilas 564 - 577 AD
27. Mahadev I 577 - 601 AD
28. Purnabodh I 601 - 618 AD
29. Bodhendra I 618 - 655 AD
30. Brahmanandghan 655 - 668 AD
31. Chidanandghan 668 - 672 AD
32. Sachchidanand 672 - 692 AD
33. Chandrashekhar II 692 - 710 AD
34. Chitsukh 710 - 737 AD
35. Chitsukhanand 737 - 758 AD
36. Vidyaghan 758 - 788 AD
37. Abhinav Shankar 788 - 840 AD
38. Sachchidvilas 840 - 873 AD
39. Mahadev II 873 - 915 AD
40. Gangadhar II 915 - 950 AD
41. Brahamanadghan 950 - 978 AD
42. Anandghan 978 - 1014 AD
43. Purnbodh II 1014 - 1040AD
44. Paramashiv 1040 - 1061 AD
45. Sundranandbodh 1061 - 1098 AD
47. Advaitanadbodh 1098 - 1166 AD
46. Mahadev II 1166 - 1200 AD
48. Mahadev III 1200 - 1247 AD
49. Chandrachood I 1247 - 1297 AD
50. Vidya Tirth 1297 - 1385 AD
51. Shankaranand 1385 - 1417 AD
52. Poornanand Sadashiv 1417 - 1498 AD
53. Vyasachal Mahadev 1498 - 1507 AD
55. Sadashivabodh 1507 - 1524 AD
54. Chandrachood II 1524 - 1539 AD
56. Paramshiva II 1539 - 1586 AD
57. Atmbodh 1586 - 1638 AD
58. Bodhendra 1638 - 1692 AD
59. Adhyatm Prakash 1692 - 1704 AD
60. Mahadev IV 1704 - 1746 AD
61. Chandrashekhar IV 1746 - 1783 AD
62. Mahadev V 1783 - 1814 AD
63. Chandrashekhar V 1814 - 1851 AD
64. Mahadev (Sudarshan) 1851 - 1891 AD
65. Chandrashekhar VI 1891 - 1908 AD
66. Mahadev VI 1908 - 1908 AD
67. Chandrashekharendra Saraswati 1908 - 1972 AD
68. Jayendra Saraswati Swamigal 1972 - (Present)
69. Shankar Vijayendra Saraswati (Successor)

Since Adi Shankracharya lived for 32 years, that puts his birth at 447 + 32 = 509 BC.

Now if this was when the Shankracharya lived, How can they claim buddha lived in 563 BC or 480 BC ? But the british do claim that.

The entire historical dates are hogwash and all the associated history is all pieced together with one lie on top of another to spin a fantastic fantasy that is fed to the public.

To cross check these dates, here is a complete list of Shankaracharya from the Dwaraka Sharada Peetha,

1. Sureshwaracharya 490 - 448 BC
Brahm Swaroop 477-448 BC
2. Chitsukhacharya 448 - 424 BC
3. Sarvgyanacharya 424 - 365 BC
4. Brahmanand Tirth 365 - 316 BC
5. Swaroopabhigyanacharya 316 - 249 BC
6. Mangalmoortyacharya 249 - 197 BC
7. Bhaskaracharya 197 - 174 BC
8. Pragyanacharya 174 - 131 BC
9. Brahmjyotsanacharya 131 - 99 BC
10. Anandvirbhavacharya 99 - 34 BC
11. Kalanidhi Tirth 34 BC - 26 AD
12. Chidvilasacharya 26 - 62 AD
13. Vibhuttyanandacharya 62 - 97 AD
14. Sphoortinilaypad 97 - 146 AD
15. Vartantupad 146 - 192 AD
16. Yogarudhacharya 192 - 303 AD
17. Vigyandindimacharya 303 - 337 AD
18. Vidya Tirth 337 - 390 AD
19. Chichhaktideshik 390 - 426 AD
20. Vigyaneshwar Tirth 426 - 454 AD
21. Ritambhacharya 454 - 515 AD
22. Amreshwarguru 515 - 551 AD
23. Sarvmukh Tirth 551 - 612 AD
24. Swananddeshik 612 - 672 AD
25. Samar-rasik 672 - 742 AD
26. Narayan Ashram 742 - 779 AD
27. Vaikunth Ashram 779 - 828 AD
28. Trivikram Ashram 828 - 854 AD
29. Sashishekhar Ashram 854 - 903 AD
30. Trayambak Ashram 903 - 908 AD
31. Chidambara Ashram 908 - 944 AD
32. Keshav Ashram 944 - 1003 AD
33. Chidambara Ashram (2) 1003 - 1026 AD
34. Padmanabh Ashram 1026 - 1051 AD
35. Mahadev Ashram 1051 - 1091 AD
36. Sachchidanand Ashram 1091 - 1150 AD
37. Vidyashankar Ashram 1150 - 1208 AD
38. Abhinavsachchidanand Ashram 1208 - 1236 AD
39. Nrasingh Ashram 1236 - 1269 AD
40. Vasudev Ashram 1269 - 1304 AD
41. Purushottam Ashram 1304 - 1337 AD
42. Gyanardhan Ashram 1337 - 1351 AD
43. Harihar Ashram 1351 - 1354 AD
44. Bhavashram 1354 - 1364 AD
45. Brahm Ashram 1364 - 1379 AD
46. Vasnashram 1379 - 1399 AD
47. Sarvagyan Ashram 1399 - 1432 AD
48. Pradyumn Ashram 1432 - 1438 AD
49. Govind Ashram 1438 - 1466 AD
50. Chidashram 1466 - 1519 AD
51. Vishveshwar Ashram 1519 - 1551 AD
52. Damodar Ashram 1551 - 1558 AD
53. Mahadev Ashram 1558 - 1559 AD
54. Aniruddha Ashram 1559 - 1568 AD
55. Achyut Ashram 1568 - 1572 AD
56. Madhav Ashram 1572 - 1628 AD
57. Anand Ashram 1628 - 1659 AD
58. Vishvaroop Ashram 1659 - 1664 AD
59. Chidghan Ashram 1664 - 1665 AD
60. Nrasingh Ashram 1665 - 1678 AD
61. Manohar Ashram 1678 - 1704 AD
62. Prakashanand Saraswati 1704 - 1738 AD
63. Vishuddhanand Ashram 1738 - 1741 AD
64. Vamanendra Ashram 1741 - 1774 AD
65. Keshav Ashram 1774 - 1781 AD
66. Madhusudan Ashram 1781 - 1791 AD
67. Haigreev Ashram 1791 - 1805 AD
68. Prakash Ashram 1805 - 1806 AD
69. Haigreev Saraswati 1806 - 1817 AD
70. Shridhar Ashram 1817 - 1857 AD
71. Damodar Ashram 1857 - 1872 AD
72. Keshav Ashram 1872 - 1878 AD
73. Rajrajeshwar Shankar Ashram 1878 - 1901 AD
74. Shrimadhav Tirth 1901 - 1916 AD
75. Shrishantyanand 1916 - 1925 AD
76. Shrichandrashekhar Ashram 1925 - 1945 AD
77. Abhinavsachchidanand Tirth 1945 - 1982 AD
78. Swaroopanad Saraswati 1982 - (Present)

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

She took money from the Duvalier family and Charles Keating(both of whom actually stole their money from other poor people) in the name of helping the poor and set up brother houses and nunneries. She and her organization still refuse to disclose their finances and there are pretty good reasons to suspect that they have huge sums deposited in the Vatican Bank....over the years they have accumulated enough money to build world class hospitals...but all they provide are hospices....and even there they actively try to baptize dying people rather then providing them with proper health care...she swindled people out of money in the name of charity and spent them on missionary work...it can also be argued that she had some form of psychosis( based on her statements about finding Christ in the suffering of people...and somehow the world was being 'helped' by the suffering of poor people...only godford almighty knows what she meant)....Anup Chatarjee,Tariq Ali,Christopher Hitchens(peace be on him) all did extensive study on her and came to very similar conclusions....University of Ottawa also did a study on here and concluded the entire thing surrounding her was media campaign by the Catholic Church(recently exposed as one of the most notorious criminal organizations in the world protecting pedophile rapists).

I'm quite sure they have (or at least had) millions in Vatican banks. Special collections were done in all Cathoilic churches in the US (and I assume worldwide) at least once a year for her charity. I'm sure it raised crazy sums each year. So whatever amount you think they sucked in from Indian citizens is just the tip of the iceberg.

I'm sure I have given at least $500 in my youth before I walked away.

 

[itsanufy]

So much hatred for mother. I live in the same area where she carried out her work.
Never seen her distribution bibles or preaching Christianity.

All I have seen is her devotion for the poor, caring them, nurturing them. Priests in Kalighat temple used to tell her janto kali (means live Godess Kali)

There are cases where people converted to Christianity with help of MOC . It happened mostly for some AAM people who was guaranteed of a better life, good education or working in Western countries, mainly Italy. Everybody desires living a respected life than living a life of poverty.

Please note it was not the MOC, but the people from the churches used to convert the poverty sicken people guaranteeing for a better life.

 

[VivasvatManu]

So much hatred for mother. I live in the same area where she carried out her work.
Never seen her distribution bibles or preaching Christianity.

All I have seen is her devotion for the poor, caring them, nurturing them. Priests in Kalighat temple used to tell her janto kali (means live Godess Kali)

There are cases where people converted to Christianity with help of MOC . It happened mostly for some AAM people who was guaranteed of a better life, good education or working in Western countries, mainly Italy. Everybody desires living a respected life than living a life of poverty.

Please note it was not the MOC, but the people from the churches used to convert the poverty sicken people guaranteeing for a better life.

The hate is not for a person who did charity, but for the institution she created that perpetuated that poverty, marketed that poverty and celebrated that poverty to build an empire.

India has the largest number of NGO's per capita in the world all out to do the business of charity.

My friends mother was a nurse in a bombay hospital when mother theresa had visited there. She was pretty excited to meet theresa and when the opportunity came to meet her, Mother therasa asked her why she was not covered fully. And when she replied that she was not a christian she was abruptly asked to leave the room (she was a parsi married to a muslim) This is just ONE example. (just comparing one anecdotal story with another)

That was the last time she admired Mother Therasa or her MOC.

Its amazing that while you admit that MOC helped convert with the lure of a better life, you struggle to distance MOC from it. By that same logic pakistan has nothing to do with Terrorism since they only "help" terrorists.

That she would participate in and allow something so despicable as exploiting poverty for conversion speaks about her character.


Maybe the next time you can thank the british for building the Railways. The Local priest called the British "janto Maalik". Cheers for that.