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After lifetime with the poor, Mother Teresa speeds to sainthood

We have a new righty in the forum.:D
Too bad joe is not here anymore or else we would have enjoyed a furious yet very informative debate.
Joe did not debate. :disagree: He was a gentleman. He used to post his PoV, considered others as wrong and chastised those opposing him. And all in nice words, except with some expletives thrown in as spices. :P

So you are not a right winger?
Man that is disappointing.:(
Most of us are not right wingers. We are right winger compared to the regressive Left. Otherwise we are just Hindus - a mix of all. :P
 
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Joe did not debate. :disagree: He was a gentleman. He used to posted his PoV, considered others as wrong and chastised those opposing him. And all in nice words, except with some expletives thrown in as spices. :P

Apparently to some he was an intellectual giant :lol:
 
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Joe did not debate. :disagree: He was a gentleman. He used to posted his PoV, considered others as wrong and chastised those opposing him. And all in nice words, except with some expletives thrown in as spices. :P

More than Joe Shearer, I have contempt for anyone admiring him.

The argument of Joe Shearer were full of logical fallacies, inbuilt assumptions, hatred for other's viewpoint, and contempt for reality. The only reason he get online cred ,and impressed people, was by writing in non standard English ,using effusive proses, and by using flowery language. Him using non-standard language ,and people swooning over him just because of this shows a deeply ingrained 'brown sahib' type of inferiority complex in supposedly educated Indians.

When I was in school, my teacher told me that best way to express in any language is to do it as simply as possible so that anyone and everyone reading you could decipher your thoughts; but then I am an Engineer, and numerous teachers have also told me that if I want to pass a government exam like civil services exam, I would need to use flowery language as people who check paper (all Leftists) love that kind of language. It is not like posters who write succinctly cannot write in obtuse flowery language. There are many posters who ,if they want, could use language obtusely, but probably do not do this because they acknowledge the absurdity of doing so.

Joe Shearer to me is an exemplar of inferiority complex ridden babu moshaiye/brown sahib class who thing that eating beef, drinking scotch, and speaking in English make them modern and superior; but even worse are his admirers who think doing these make them intellectual.

Apparently to some he was an intellectual giant :lol:


He is a fraud, at least on PDF. He has never served in any uniformed services of Indian Armed forces, and got professional title due to being well connected with PDF staff. The closest he got to military was doing some consultancy for HAL.
 
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More than Joe Shearer, I have contempt for anyone admiring him.

The argument of Joe Shearer were full of logical fallacies, inbuilt assumptions, hatred for other's viewpoint, and contempt for reality. The only reason he get online cred ,and impressed people, was by writing in non standard English ,using effusive proses, and by using flowery language. Him using non-standard language ,and people swooning over him just because of this shows a deeply ingrained 'brown sahib' type of inferiority complex in supposed educated Indians.

When I was in school, my teacher told me that best way to express in any language is to do it as simply as possible so that anyone and everyone reading you could decipher your thoughts, but then I am an Engineer, and numerous teachers have told me that if I want to pass a government exam like civil services exam, I would need to use flowery language as people who check paper (all Leftists) love that kind of language. It is not like posters who write succinctly cannot write in obtuse flowery language. There are many posters who ,if they want, could use language obtusely, but probably do not do this because they acknowledge the absurdity of doing so.

Thus Joe Shearer to me is an exemplar of an inferiority complex ridden Indian babu moshaiye who thing that eating beef, drinking scotch, and speaking in English make him modern and superior; but even worse are his admirers who think doing these make him an intellectual.

I share your contempt. I almost fell off my chair laughing when one of his sycophant said he would enjoy my post :lol:


is a fraud, at least on PDF. He has never served in any uniformed services of Indian Armed forces, and got professional title due to being well connected with PDF staff. The closest he got to military was doing some consultancy for HAL.

You don't have to tell me. I know all about him, probably more than you.
 
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You don't have to tell me. I know all about him, probably more than you.

He has such a pathological need to boast that everyone on this forum knew who he is (which completely negates idea of internet anonymity. If you want to use your real name,use facebook). I came to know about him when a member censured another member who was arguing with Joe Shearer on some legal issue (probably related to Kanahiya) saying that he should pay heed to shearer's word because shearer was a faculty in NALSAR; to which another member replied that he is just a faculty for management, not law, there.

Ironically he was arguing against legal opinion of ex-CJI of India.
 
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He has such a pathological need to boast that everyone on this forum knew who he is (which completely negates idea of internet anonymity. If you want to use your real name,use facebook). I came to know about him when a member censured another member who was arguing with Joe Shearer on some legal issue (probably related to Kanahiya) saying that he should pay heed to shearer's word because shearer was a faculty in NALSAR; to which another member replied that he is just a faculty for management, not law, there.

Ironically he was arguing against legal opinion of ex-CJI of India.

You mean Indrajit Gupta :lol: ..... I know all about that too. (that's his real name).
 
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Start here to get the other side of the story:


I am not equating Teresa to the atrocities done by the church in other episodes....but there are parallels in the underlying theology in many cases for the rescue and redemption of pagan souls.
An eye opener, alternate perspective rolled into one video.
The old "white man's burden" personalized through her.
You can imagine how I m feeling right now.
 
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An eye opener, alternate perspective rolled into one video.
The old "white man's burden" personalized through her.
You can imagine how I m feeling right now.

Now its a bit all heavy on one side. I encourage you to investigate the other side too....there have been many critiques of Hitchens documentary for example. You must read them and judge for yourself in the end. Don't take anyones words as the complete truth.....find the facts yourself.
 
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Well what da ya know.
You appreciate good and rationale debates on the forum and you are a sycophant.:rolleyes:
 
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I like all have an opportunity to refute allegations made against them. :) How do you do btw?
Allegations like? He is a communist? His intolerance for anything opposite to his own belief? That his posts have no substance but only eloquence? And you want me to refute these stupid 'allegations' after both of us knowing him so well after 4/5 years at the least!! For the first one, very few here know his family background and perhaps never read what he believed about the communist regime in Bengal. The second claim is more ludicrous because, if I am not wrong, one of the Indian poster he hold in high regard is @Bang Galore. Did anyone have any idea how divergent their views were on different themes and yet the respect they held for each other? And I don't need to comment anything on the last. Why don't the idiots who claim he was devoid of substance generate enough patience to dig up his discussions with Cardsharp, Chauisms, Indian Army or niaz first and then try to realize why he was given the professional title? Sarthak, Last thing i want on this forum is to refute idiocy. Hope I made myself clear.

I am fine, my friend. Just cant post here like I used to due to work load in real life, that's all.
 
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Kolkata will take a century to recover from Mother Teresa

If Mother Teresa, to be canonised at the Vatican on September 4, is to be named a patron saint of anything it should be for "misinformation". In the last 20 years of her life, truth became an unknown entity to her. The media aided and abetted her lack of integrity and in a way she cannot be blamed for believing in her own lies.

Intellect was not her strong point and, for someone like her, to be surrounded by hordes of sycophants who were telling her if she said black was white then that had to be true, it became intoxicating. The media did spread the mega-myth about her, but she herself was the source. She repeatedly told the world she went around the city 24x7 "picking up" destitute from its squalid "gutters" (she did not), that she fed up to 9,000 in her soup kitchens (she did not), she never refused a helpless child (she did as a rule), that the dying destitute in her so-called home for the dying Nirmal Hriday died a "beautiful death" (they were treated harshly and often died a miserable, painful death).

Mother Teresa was an ultimate politician who worked on behalf of the Vatican. No, she was not an "agent" as that would be conspiratorial. She did not have to do much subterfuge or skulduggery in India itself, as Indians, particularly the media, were in awe of her and connived with her.

When she said in her Nobel speech that she created 61,237 fewer children from (slum) couples abstaining from sex, no one challenged her on her bogus and fantastic figure; neither did they ask her how at the height of the Cold War abortion could be the "greatest destroyer of peace" (said a thousand times, including in her Nobel speech).

I do not blame world media as much as I blame Indian and particularly Kolkata media. Here she was, a jet-setting celebrity -- although appended with the epithet "of Calcutta" -- spending six to nine months in a year in Europe and the US, making strange claims about her work and about the claims about her work and about the disgusting state of the city, but never to be seen in the city's disasters -- major or minor.

Why was she not asked why she re-used needles on her residents in Nirmal Hriday (it was official policy) when she herself received the finest care in the world's best hospitals?

Even after her death, the Indian fear of blue-bordered saris continues. On August 1, 2005, UK TV showed a child tied to a cot overnight in her orphanage -- one Kolkata newspaper grudgingly reported the matter with lots of "alleged". During her lifetime, even that would be unthinkable. She was white, she hobnobbed with President Ronald Reagan (they were closest of buddies), and oh yes, she had the Nobel -- so she had to be divine.

Did no one know that she hobnobbed with the Duvaliers of Haiti whose brutality was unsurpassed (whose opponents were often cut up and fed to dogs)? No one in India wanted to know. For the Western media, she was a metaphor, a set-piece, a stratospheric certainty of image in an uncertain and changing world. Conversely, Kolkata was the opposite metaphor of absolute degradation where "foetuses are given to dogs to eat" (as remarked by her "other self" Francis Goree).

It was beyond the West's interest, energy or remit to robustly challenge these wrong stereotypes. But did Indian journalists not know that her main bank was the Vatican Bank, a dark cavern of corruption, intrigue and murder? Before she died, it was well known that she had accepted millions from Charles Keating, the notorious American swindler, but no one in India cared.

Bengalis showed some rare guts when she was beatified through a "miracle" in 2003. Doctors, and even the then Health Minister, made statements that Monica Besra was cured by prolonged treatment, and not by an aluminium medal. Even Besra herself periodically said her cure was not a miracle. But the Vatican treated Indian opinion with the contempt it always has and proceeded with canonisation.

But what is so great about Catholic saints? People should realise a Catholic saint Catholic saint does not have to be saintly or nice in the secular sense, but has to be pure to Catholic dogma, especially on contraception and abortion. Jose Maria Escriva, a Fascist, is a Catholic saint; another Fascist, Cardinal Stepinac, is a "blessed". "Saint" John Paul II actively shielded the prolific paedophile and criminal Marcial Maciel over many years. Mother Teresa also wrote a letter of support for a convicted paedophile priest Donald McGuire, asking people to overlook his "imprudence".

If one looks around Mother Teresa's homes in Kolkata today, one would find many of them acceptable. But one must not forget that this comes after 25 years of campaigning by me, and also persistent global criticism from Hemley Gonzalez, the American former volunteer who in 2008 was so utterly disgusted by what he saw that he founded the Stop the Missionaries of Charity movement and founded his own Responsible Charity. Moreover, in the last six months the order has spruced up a great deal, preparing for the canonisation on Sunday.

And yet, like obliging picaninnies, the Indian government is dutifully sending a delegation to the black-magic ceremony in Rome. (Hindus please note: the Pope is not allowed to wish Hindus personally even on Diwali.)

Be that as it may, my own wish would be to reclaim Kolkata/Calcutta from Teresa -- to sever the automatic connection of the two names as the whole wide world sees it. Kolkata's image under the yoke of Mother Teresa will take a century to recover. In the last 50 years, the city has lost an unimaginable amount from the loss of international business and tourism and will continue to do so. But let us at least loudly, proudly proclaim that we have nothing to do with a medieval creature of darkness -- not any more.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ther-teresa/articleshow/53990241.cms?from=mdr
 
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