After insulting "Tiranga", Mehbooba Mufti raises doubts over Indian Army's response to China's Galwan instrusion

[jamahir]

or refuse to raise the slonag "Bharta Mata Ki Jai".

Why can't someone raise the secular and simple slogan "Jai Hind" ? Why does it have to be a non-secular "Bharat Mata..." ?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Why can't someone raise the secular and simple slogan "Jai Hind" ? Why does it have to be a non-secular "Bharat Mata..." ?

How is it non secular ? It literally translates to "praise be to the motherland" or something

 

[jamahir]

How is it non secular ? It literally translates to "praise be to the motherland" or something

The entire imagery of it is from a particular religion / belief. This immediately makes it non-secular and seeks primacy for a certain religion's imagery over the sentiments of others'. Additionally, that imagery calls for worship of a divine humanoid form but Muslims take objection because they are called upon to worship none but a formless, single God.

"Jai Hind" is secular in the sense that all religious communities can voice it and secular in the sense that it does not project any unnecessary religious identity to the land.

 

[Sharma Ji]

The entire imagery of it is from a particular religion / belief. This immediately makes it non-secular and seeks primacy for a certain religion's imagery over the sentiments of others'. Additionally, that imagery calls for worship of a divine humanoid form but Muslims take objection because they are called upon to worship none but a formless, single God.

"Jai Hind" is secular in the sense that all religious communities can voice it and secular in the sense that it does not project any unnecessary religious identity to the land.

No, glory to the motherland is all it is, not a call to worship a divine humanoid.

and that imagery isn't from a "certain religion", it is our cultural heritage and an iconic symbol of our civilization which happens to be dharmic. The muslims must adapt to it.

 

[rott]

After insulting 'Tiranga', Mehbooba Mufti raises doubt over Indian Army's response to China's Galwan intrusion

Former Jammu & Kashmir Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti raised doubts over Indian Army’s response to China’s aggression along the LAC saying “if you have strength then show it to China”.

www.timesnownews.com

Times Now Bureau
Updated Nov 06, 2020 | 15:43 IST
Former Jammu & Kashmir Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti raised doubts over Indian Army’s response to China’s aggression along the LAC saying “if you have strength then show it to China”.



Key Highlights

• Mehbooba raises doubts on Indian Army's response to China's Galwan Valley intrusion.
• She claimed that Beijing captured 1000 sq ft area of Indian land and killed 20 jawans but no one has the guts to question Beijing
• China is building infrastructure but no minister has the courage to speak against it

New Delhi: After insulting the Indian tricolour, former Jammu & Kashmir Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti raised doubts on Indian Army's response to China’s Galwan Valley intrusion saying “if you have strength show it to China”.
Talking to the media Mufti targeted the Narendra Modi-led BJP government saying they don't have the courage to speak in front of China.
“Beijing captured 1000 sq ft area of Indian land and killed 20 jawans, but they can't even say a word against China. China is building infrastructure there. Construction of barracks is going on but no minister has the courage to speak against China,” she added.
'China building infra but no minister has the courage to speak about it'

Mufti’s statement comes after she said that J&K should act as a bridge of peace between India, Pakistan and China.
Speaking to reporters, the former J&K chief minister said that J&K should act as a ‘bridge of peace’ between India and its neighbouring countries. She further said it was late father Mufti Mohammad Sayeed’s dream of making J&K as a bridge between New Delhi, Islamabad and Beijing which needs to be fulfilled.

Mufti sparked a controversy saying she would not take the Tricolour in her hand unless her party is allowed to raise the flag of Jammu and Kashmir also. The BJP slammed Mufti for her seditious statement with Union Minister Jitendra Singh saying Kashmir's so-called politicians are more dangerous than separatists.
'If you have strength show it to China'

After her statement, three senior leaders from PDP resigned in protest against her controversial remark.
Mufti has been appointed as the vice president of the Gupkar Alliance while Farooq Abdullah has been appointed as the president.
The People's Alliance for Gupkar Declaration has been formed to fight for the restoration of J&K's special status.

This lady realized that Indians are nothing but hot air. Pussyfooting at it's best.

 

[jamahir]

No, glory to the motherland is all it is, not a call to worship a divine humanoid.

and that imagery isn't from a "certain religion", it is our cultural heritage and an iconic symbol of our civilization which happens to be dharmic. The muslims must adapt to it.

1. But what is the reason to reject the simple, direct and secular "Jai Hind" ?

2. There used to be civilizations in India before the Dharmic one came along. After the entry of Dharmic ones ( Hinduism, Jainism ) there have been others too. What about taking their sentiments along ? What became of Modi's much-vaunted slogan "Sabka saath, sabka vikas" ? Is not "Bharat Mata..." slogan an undemocratic, majoritarian imposition on the remainder ?

3. Despite what you said about "Bharat Mata..." even a non-praying Muslim like me see heavy religion-laced imagery in that slogan. Sorry but I cannot adapt to it. Please rewind to point# 1.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

they traitors will face agencies for money laundering and land grabbing scams , will stay in jail .

I find your reason to label her traitor on this occasion rather funny. Rather you should be labeling Modi regime and Indian armed forces chiefs as traitors who allowed China gobbled up such a large chunk of Indian claimed territory without firing a single bullet. The way you Indians celebrate the utter and disgusting failure is a truly astonishing.

 

[Chakar The Great]

Indian pets barking at Indians now ( excuse my language but there is no better way of putting it out)

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

I find your reason to label her traitor on this occasion rather funny. Rather you should be labeling Modi regime and Indian armed forces chiefs as traitors who allowed China gobbled up such a large chunk of Indian claimed territory without firing a single bullet. The way you Indians celebrate the utter and disgusting failure is a truly astonishing.

We are not suicidal to pick a fight with China.

If Mehbooba is so keen, she can pick a gun and fight the Chinese.

Agreed.



Come on, don't get into supporting delusionaries who peddle "Ten-thousand-year-old internet" and all that.



Now you are stubbornly being majoritarian. I again ask, what became of "Sabka saath, Sabka vikas, Sabka vishwas" ?

There are many things that have been written in our history from teleportation to flying vehicles to Hypnotic machines to mind readers. You just want to diss them because they were written by Hindus?

No. I am not being majoritarian but being nationalistic.

 

[jamahir]

There are many things that have been written in our history from teleportation to flying vehicles to Hypnotic machines to mind readers. You just want to diss them because they were written by Hindus?

I am rejecting those things not because they were written by Hindus but because they are myths. I also don't believe in jinns which some Muslims say exist.

So why is ISRO not having settlements on Mars yet ? Have they not researched these ancient vedic spacecraft tech ?

And why does Indian police rely upon deep questioning and physical method to extract info instead of relying upon vedic mind reading machines ?

And why does the Indian railway network exists instead of there being vedic teleportation machines in every city ?

No. I am not being majoritarian but being nationalistic.

Not nationalistic but majoritarian ethno-ultranationalistic.

 

[Mrc]

What response?

They bludgeoned whole squad including commander to death and tossed bodies in a river and occupied land


What response was given?

Dancing on social media and flying un Armed jets for domestic consumption does not count as response...

Response is when you go into enemy territory in broad daylight bomb military targets shoot down aircrafts and return without consequences

 

[jamahir]

No. we do not have access to that tech in Kali Yuga.

1. Why not ?

2. How do you know such techs existed and were used commonly ?

3. How did no other culture in the world come to know of such techs in "India" ?

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

1. Why not ?

2. How do you know such techs existed and were used commonly ?

3. How did no other culture in the world come to know of such techs in "India" ?

Because Vedic material is considered classified even in prior Yugas.

Common people never had access to such material. Only the Gods and Rishis had access to them.

 

[jamahir]

Because Vedic material is considered classified even in prior Yugas.

Common people never had access to such material. Only the Gods and Rishis had access to them.

1. Where are these gods now ?

2. It does that common people mentioned such tech. I quote this document :

Evidence of existence of aircrafts are also found in the Arthasastra of Kautilya (c. 3rd century B.C.). Kautilya mentions amongst various tradesmen and technocrats the Saubhikas as `pilots conducting vehicles in the sky`.

So Kautilya's contemporary Alexander the great would have got word of such techs, yes ? So where is that quoted evidence now ?

3. If we are to travel to Mars in ten years time will we come across indications of vedic space travelers from the past ? Perhaps the Face on Mars ?

4. What about modern rishis like Ramdev, "Sadhguru" and Sri Sri Ravishankar, plus various Sanskrit research institutions ? Don't they have access to such tech ?

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Expressing my opinion is my fundamental right.

Thats what I said. Express YOUR opinion. Dont pull "WE" and "INDIANS" into it unnecessarily.