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After 70 years I realized that I can not stay in India as a Muslim: Naseeruddin Shah

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Very old news..its damn propagation..
There may be very isolated issues, but generally no problems as such being propagated here.
 
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January isn't old

Since then more CAA protests
Attacks and shooters at Shaheen Bagh
Delhi riots
Communal Pandemic
Almost communal lynching
Just general decline in India

I agree with you. All I meant was that the OP, @Chakar The Great, when entering the new thread title could have simply looked at the drop-down "existing threads" list and seen that such a thread exists.

He could then have bumped that old thread.
 
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I know Jinnah feels vindicated but being the leader of Muslim League he should have strived for the future of all subcontinent Muslims rather than taking the stand "I told you so". He failed to unite and influence all the Muslims of the subcontinent.
There was a chance/option for Muslims in India to go to Pakistan in 1947 but many decided to choose India while Jinnah wanted many other Muslim majority areas as well like Kashmir , Junagarh , Hyderabad of which two were given to India by UK and one still not decided . Even today they ( Saif Ali Khan , SRK , SK e.t.c ) act in anti Pakistan movies and are silent on CAA , NRC ,Asaam, Kashmir and even many many common Indian Muslims say bad things about Pakistan . Now Modi is here saying u will see things which u never imagined . We Thank Jinnah . May ALLAH ( GOD ) Bless him Aameen .
 
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He was wrong.

Muslims are a nation.

Hindus are not. There are a community or a collection of various tribes.
 
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nowadays Indian Muslim are swallowing all the curse word towards jinnah
 
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One could argue that Jnnah was solely responsible for the plight of Indian Muslims.


really?..

Did Jinnah order the mass murder of muslims?... All this proved Jinnah was 100% accurate about Hindus. That deep down they are a truely ugly bunch.

remember if hindus RSS were really good people you think they would go out murdering , raping and oppressing people?

This is an old report. From January this year.

Discussed on PDF. Look at the "SIMILAR THREADS" section below.


a reminder is always a good thing..


I know Jinnah feels vindicated but being the leader of Muslim League he should have strived for the future of all subcontinent Muslims rather than taking the stand "I told you so". He failed to unite and influence all the Muslims of the subcontinent.



you clearly havent done your research well... have you?

There was a chance/option for Muslims in India to go to Pakistan in 1947 but many decided to choose India while Jinnah wanted many other Muslim majority areas as well like Kashmir , Junagarh , Hyderabad of which two were given to India by UK and one still not decided . Even today they ( Saif Ali Khan , SRK , SK e.t.c ) act in anti Pakistan movies and are silent on CAA , NRC ,Asaam, Kashmir and even many many common Indian Muslims say bad things about Pakistan . Now Modi is here saying u will see things which u never imagined . We Thank Jinnah . May ALLAH ( GOD ) Bless him Aameen .


correct, the muslims in india have them selves to blame. those with some sense (like Abdul Qadir) left India post partition to...

reap what you sow.

I pray for an India without hate and Islamophobia

It is shocking to see the animosity against Muslims in India

Published: April 26, 2020 06:52
Hind Al Qassemi, Special to Gulf News

A lotus flower grew from Lord Vishnu’s navel with Brahma sitting on it. Brahma separated the flower into three parts: the Heavens, the Earth and the Sky. Out of loneliness, Brahma split himself into two to create a male and a female and from this all beings were created.


In the heart of a giant lotus flower amphitheatre I sat next to an Israeli senator, an author of a book called Tears of a Jewish Woman. I had never met knowingly a Jew, let alone a Zionist and political member of the Knesset (Israeli parliament). I was intrigued, but was calm and collected. We spoke briefly as we were both new to exploring yoga in a Bengaluru ashram (hermitage). She later invited me to visit her and I hope to meet her again.

There I was enlightened and delighted to meet people from around the world who simply came together purely for the pleasure of practising yoga. We all went vegan during our stay, which I didn’t mind because I wasn’t an avid meat-eater to start with. I just missed my cereal with milk and my prawn cocktail crisps, a guilty pleasure. The Harvard graduate doctor friend of mine had joined me and we had a delightful time exploring the sari market, bindi and tika accessories.


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I still remember how people would smile whenever I would introduce myself. Everyone found it entertaining to meet an Arab princess named Hind. “Like Jai Hind?” They would ask, and I would smile in affirmation. We would rise just before dawn and head to the hall, to do our morning yoga sessions, of which there were several. It was like a pilgrimage and in it was a journey at how simple you could live. We would wear simple slippers, light cotton clothes, but I still wore my kajal, bindi and Arabic perfume. There were hundreds of people from around the world in this village that hosted an orphanage that was running on the donations of the yoga members. They had functioning buildings for IT, services and a resort with a spa.

Modern day utopia
In this melting pot, my American friend and I would meet and share our treasure of discoveries of people and their tales. There was never a moment of discrimination. A questionable resemblance to a modern day utopia. I had the pleasure of meeting the guru, along with many ambassadors and their wives who spoke about how religion didn’t matter, it was simply a rediscovered art of living in harmony.

To be able to live in union with people so different from your race, religion and region was an epiphany. I slipped into my new glass slippers like Cinderella rushing to a ball. A sense of liberation that I thoroughly recommend for everyone to try once, to simply live a day without bias or hate. It beats whatever rush adrenaline can give you, and I admit I was hooked and I am addicted to love. When your heart is open, there is no more room for hate. Anger may appear, but never take it to bed. The art of letting go, is truly the art of learning to live. Surely there are some stands worth fighting for, but being an industrial and productive person by nature, I look for solutions and hate to procrastinate and mope. I like finding answers. Fury and deep-seated prejudice is like an anchor on a sinking ship.

There is an unbreakable bond between Emiratis and Indians that others may not understand. We grew up with more Indians around us as children in our homes than Arabs, so a certain affinity and undeniable connection exists in our DNA. Our daily language has borrowed words and customs familiar with our own.
- Shaikha Hind Al Qassemi, Emirati author
I am working on my PhD, which is all about Sustainability in Developing Nations, and it’s all about countries that have taken that journey of truth in recognising where their strengths lie, capitalise on it, treat and correct their weakness, recognise the opportunities and neutralise their threats. India was one of these nations, which rose from a poor farming colony to a super power today. Singapore, South Korea, Germany and Japan are in the list as well. My beloved home country as well, the UAE, that was once a handful of pearling villages that used the new-found oil wealth to educate, build and create a happy prosperous nation that hosts 3.3 million Indians that send back to their families in India $17 billion (Dh62.52 billion) a year.

Elevated rate of religious tolerance
The above-mentioned nations did not rise without guidance. Each nation had a wise leader that planted the seeds and after two generations we today reap the fruits of our labour. Some would say that an elevated rate of religious tolerance is what allowed the astronomical development as they were in these countries. Education, health, social capital, safety, security, opportunity, economy and entrepreneurship are all integral parts of the strategy of success of any one nation today.

While visiting Gandhi’s museum and reading a letter he had written to Hitler requesting him to halt the war, I bought his biography. He instilled in India the need for education, toilets, which was directly related to health and safety of their women, and demanded that they use Indian cotton and textiles instead of imports. That gave rise to entrepreneurship and boosted the economy. Hats off to having that farsightedness. The quality of governance is the final piece of the puzzle that guarantees continuity. Rome wasn’t built in a day and the result of Gandhi’s actions can only be seen a generation later. Let us not forget that Nelson Mandela was also part of the Gandhi school of thought to pursue peace. No one can deny that Gandhi was the liberator of India. Pardon me if I speak of India with so much passion, it is the land of milk and honey, and in my culture we say if you drink the milk of India she becomes your mother.

Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam, “the world is one family”, in one of the most important moral values in the Indian society. This verse from Maha Upanishad is engraved in the entrance hall of the parliament of India.
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There is an unbreakable bond between Emiratis and Indians that others may not understand. We grew up with more Indians around us as children in our homes than Arabs, so a certain affinity and undeniable connection exists in our DNA. Our daily language has borrowed words and customs familiar with our own.

It is a shock for those of us who were familiar with India to see a rise in animosity, Islamophobia and a regular bloodbath happening, and now a pandemic that is called the ‘Qurano-Virus’. I feel that I brought back the essence of peace with me from that giant lotus hall.

World doesn’t need another Hitler
Don’t these successful so-called powerful millionaires know that hate speech is the prelude to genocide? Nazism wasn’t born in a day. It was allowed to grow like a weed that went wild because people chose to look the other side and it thrived on that specific weakness called silence. Hate is being preached openly in India against Muslims, in a nation of 182 million Muslims. BJP [India’s ruling Bharatiya Janata Party] and RSS [Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh] leader Rajeshwar Singh, have, in an example of intimidation and hate speech, said that “Muslims and Christians will be wiped out of India by December 31, 2021”.

The world doesn’t need another Hitler, but it needs another hero like Martin Luther, Nelson Mandela, or Gandhi. Killing your brethren doesn’t make you a hero, it makes you a dictator and murderer. A snowballing movement has been started, which has reverberated across the Arab world. People have taken note and with the start of Ramadan the Muslim hearts are deep in prayer and will not allow the sparks to burn a country down. The hate must stop now as it is simply not welcome.

In the UAE, it is illegal to preach hate. People may find it funny that such a law exists, but at a rebellious time, it maintains the peace in the land. Why burn a country when you can build it? I am sure this law will allow any leader that has seen the prosperity it yields to implement it in his country.

Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam, “the world is one family”, in one of the most important moral values in the Indian society. This verse from Maha Upanishad is engraved in the entrance hall of the parliament of India. Prime Minister Narendra Modi quoted it, Gandhi implemented it. I pray for peace in India, especially during this pandemic that needs to educate the masses to remain isolated to limit the spread of the shadow of death and crippling of the economic and society.

— Shaikha Hind Al Qassemi is an Emirati author, businesswoman and editor of Velvet Magazine.
 
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I suggest mr shah to come back to his original home pak entire nation will welcome him with open hands they can live happily here
 
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There was a chance/option for Muslims in India to go to Pakistan in 1947 but many decided to choose India while Jinnah wanted many other Muslim majority areas as well like Kashmir , Junagarh , Hyderabad of which two were given to India by UK and one still not decided . Even today they ( Saif Ali Khan , SRK , SK e.t.c ) act in anti Pakistan movies and are silent on CAA , NRC ,Asaam, Kashmir and even many many common Indian Muslims say bad things about Pakistan . Now Modi is here saying u will see things which u never imagined . We Thank Jinnah . May ALLAH ( GOD ) Bless him Aameen .


You keep thanking him but you know the reality and so do I.

- Ask Pakistanis here in NZ...they first introduce themselves as Indians....At any given day, visa restriction on Indian Muslim (because of his passport) are far lesser than Pakistan Passport.
Me even being a citizen of NZ, when returned to Oz from Pakistan last year (after vising my relatives in Karachi)...I was questioned for 15 mins by custom person as if I am coming from no-go zone.

So Mr. Jinnah though secured a piece of"LAND" for Muslims, to make it a "Country" was the responsibility of those Muslims ...unfortunately we let him down.

Any given day, Muslims of India are way better in education, living condition, status, and conduct...than an average Pakistani.
 
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You keep thanking him but you know the reality and so do I.

- Ask Pakistanis here in NZ...they first introduce themselves as Indians....At any given day, visa restriction on Indian Muslim (because of his passport) are far lesser than Pakistan Passport.
Me even being a citizen of NZ, when returned to Oz from Pakistan last year (after vising my relatives in Karachi)...I was questioned for 15 mins by custom person as if I am coming from no-go zone.

So Mr. Jinnah though secured a piece of"LAND" for Muslims, to make it a "Country" was the responsibility of those Muslims ...unfortunately we let him down.

Any given day, Muslims of India are way better in education, living condition, status, and conduct...than an average Pakistani.
That's as maybe.
A snapshot in time of any given nation is not the final word. Any share traders will tell you that any losses and gains are paper losses and gains until they are sold.
History is a fluid concept. Nations fall, nations rise, an ebb and flow, if you will. The India of yesterday isn't the India of today and the Pakistan of today won't be the Pakistan of tomorrow. The comparative condition of Pakistanis and Indian Muslims cannot be measured only in the confines of the parameters of finance and education, which I'm sure someone more informed than myself would challenge anyway.
Pakistan has it's fair share of troubles, despite which it is strong and it is here to stay. We can look forward to working to improve ourselves and our country as full citizens and not as perceived interlopers beholden to the whims of a hostile majority. We are masters of our own destiny as much as any country in the world we find ourselves in. We have much to look forward to as a nation.
Despite your assertions, given the choice, I would choose being Pakistan and Pakistani over Indian Muslim every day of the week, and twice on Sundays.
 
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