Afghanistan's strong role in destabilise Pakistan, the mission is to create a greater Afghanistan

[LadyFinger]

Tutututut poor chap

@Max @Horus : trolling, name calling

 

[A-Team]

Deluded and mentally retarded. They should be made extinct. I'm getting bored of their strange and obnoxious behavior. The strangest people on the planet. No wonder 27 countries invaded them. You have to pretty strange and unlikeable for everyone to f**k you up twice with Soviet Union.

Pakistan needs to get more heavy handed with them and distance themselves. Cut off all cultural, economic and political ties. Make them invisible. They are not worth the time and effort.

And apparently you are senior member of PDF? defies logic.

Tutututut poor chap

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[LadyFinger]

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[Menace2Society]

And apparently you are senior member of PDF? defies logic.

Try watching this mess over 12 years seeing Pakistan regress into this mess. She should have been a multi trillion dollar economy by now but your retarded countrymen not only destroyed any chances of developing themselves and out of envy stopped Pakistan developing.

Typical Muslim mentality, watch non Muslims flourish and keep your own down out of envy and jealousy. Aren't you sick of Indian *** licking? Surely you can't find a better master to follow but no you must choose someone who is as anti Pakistan as you can get out pure spite.

Blaming ISI and Pakistan for the mess in your house is a cowards way out, Pakistan didn't invade you in the 80s, the Soviets did. Pakistan merely were managing the situation to keep some semblance of peace. Its not Pakistans fault you couldn't produce a functioning nation with a voice in the UN and some contribution to humanity so people don't invade you. But not blame Pakistan just like Indian rhetoric.

I want the borders completely sealed and guarded with a buffer zone 5 miles into Afghanistan where its shoot on sight without identification or potential of threat. NATO has failed you and the region with their pathetic strategies. Useless at war, what do you expect sending stupid little kids to war who are just there for money. What a total and absolute mess.

Zia should have closed the borders during Soviet invasion and washed his hands clean of the entire situation, whatever happens in Afghanistan whatever. This Muslim brother nonsense ruined that and Afghan bullshit over durrand line and free cross over like its their territory. Not even mature to recognize an international border how you ever going to make a nation? Zia was an idiot who is the cause of all this.

What I want now is pure and utter calculated logical steps to ensure Pakistan has the security to develop like it should. We have come to far and are far too intelligent to not become a developed country. That means no more Afghan involvement in Pakistani society.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Afghans and their deluded fantasies never stop amusing us. They cannot even control and manage this war torn Afghanistan and having wet dream of taking more lands from Pakistan. What they will feed to people of this greater afghnaistan? lol

 

[Rahi812]

Yep. Afghanistan has always been like this. The hatred for Pakistan is not something new whivhbis contrary to popular belief. Since Pakistan's inception, afghanistan has been against Pakistan. They voted no on our membership and in the 1960s they openly trued to create a pushtunistan movement in Pakistan ( which failed miserably) and even went on to invade bajuar but they failed bcz the local populace wouldn't have it ( which came as a shock to the afghans since they thought that the tribal regions and pashtuns were against Pakistan).


Now once again they are trying this rubbish and the funny part in all of this is that they are again brainwashing their people that the Pakistani pashtuns want freedom when nothing could be further than the truth. The pashtuns are loyal Pakistanis who have actively taken part in Pakistan politics, affairs, sports, economy as well as military.

However the afghan govt continously spews hatred and nonsense which creates further hatred in the public against Pakistan which leads to incidents like torkham and chaman.

I sometimes feel that Its used as a uniting factor. It's far easier to unite so many different enemies against one common enemy. Afghanistan is a nation strife with ethnic wars and it makes Pakistan bogey man to take peoples focus from the ethnic wars as well as the incompetence of the afghan govt.

The other funny thing is that 1/3rd of afghanistan is under the control of Taliban yet afghans fully want warring solutions to the abolishment of the Durand border.



Pakistan needs to seriously create better border management and defences along the Durand line bcz afghanistan is very aggressive and will seek a war with Pakistan if another nationalist like daoud Khan comes to power who started the invasion of bajuar in the 60s.

Irony or blindness is that in the 50s there was great talk and consensus in the union of pak and Afghan into a federated single nation but what the people didn't know is that afghanistan was never interested in a union of equal power but the subjugation of Pakistan under Kabul.

Ayub khan in the 60s seeing afghans imperialism closed the entire border of afghanistan with zero trade which created a huge economic issue in Afghanistan and allowed the soviet influence to multiply since they came to their aid.

These factors have created a bitter friction with the two nations since the birth of Pakistan and quite frankly we have and we may make great inroads of peace with India despite kashmir but we have never been able to create peace with afghanistan discounting the Taliban period.

However I will say that the Durand line is going nowhere. FATA is being made into kpk which means that state writ will increase further and with Baluchistan also looking towards development and border controls and management being a serious priority. With the advent of nuclear bombs in Pakistan and the attitude of the world on imperialistic conquests and Durand being recognized as the international border by every nation, its never going to happen.

Greater Afghanistan, Greater Baluchistan, Sindhu Desh, Jinnah pur, and Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan India is interested. Point is what is then left with Pakistan, only Sharif's (Nawaz sharif, Shabaz Sharif, Raheel Sharif, Chief Justice Sharif, Mariyum Sharif and Qandeel Sharif). It is a lose lose situation for Pakistan.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Zia made a bigger mistake helping basterds

Propose an alternative please,

Had he not helped then what ? leave the animals open for exploitation like they are now from Hindu-stan?

They have right over Pakistan. Afghans are Pakistan's master race. Pakistan ideology, textbooks, Pakistani state's propaganda and historical narrative, names of missiles etc everything corroborates that. Pakistanis should be more respectful towards Afghans.



Step one is true. Step 2 is not. You are making it up to scare Indians. That was settled centuries ago.

Who is India's master race ?
Why are you on a Pakistani forum ?

We shouldn't be that sensitive....If Afghanistan on our west keep thinking about greater Afghanistan, let them do it. It makes them feel happy....A country who doesn't even control half of its country can't enlarge their borders...We all know it...

Lets ignore these idiots and focus on Kashmir....Afghan government and northern alliance have far more on their plate than poking Afghanistan......If Afghan does anything mischievous and come out in open to act against Pakistan....Pakistan should start supporting Afghan Taliban and all others fighting Afghan northern alliance thugs sitting in kabul.

We should make Afghanistan another Syria.....It has all prospects of becoming Syria...First seal your borders immediately to stop in flow of Afghans into our territory....Creating a buffer zone will b good too...

The best and only way to deal with these afghans is to seal the border.
bullet proof and water tight.

don't let any thing at all pass through for a year or so.
Once business is starved they will learn the reality.

 

[Genghis khan1]

We should make Afghanistan another Syria.....It has all prospects of becoming Syria...

Syrian civil war is 4 years old. Afghans have been killing each other for 30 years now. There is nothing left in Afghanistan to fight or destroy.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Syrian civil war is 4 years old. Afghans have been killing each other for 30 years now. There is nothing left in Afghanistan to fight or destroy.

Pakistan should secure its long border with Iran and Afghanistan......Otherwise, it will become big headache.

 

[Clutch]

Simple... just fence and brick wall the border... problem solved.

The afghan can wish whatever they want... not even in a million year would they have professional army that pakistan does.

 

[A-Team]

Try watching this mess over 12 years seeing Pakistan regress into this mess. She should have been a multi trillion dollar economy by now but your retarded countrymen not only destroyed any chances of developing themselves and out of envy stopped Pakistan developing.

Wow what a logic . First you make a policy of using proxies to project power in the neighbourhood, by radicalising your society and you expect to be a trillion dollar economy instead of investing in the likes of Haqqani or Hafiz Sayed, or making nukes you should have done in education.. You should direct these questions to General Durrani, Hamid Gul, Zia and Bhutto and of course Musharraf.

You play with fire, you are bound to feel the heat.

The rest I didn't bother to read

This should give you something to think about.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1279699/partying-with-jihadis

 

[Sam.]

And apparently you are senior member of PDF? defies logic.



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I think you are deluded if you think a fish can run.

 

[Great Janjua]

I think you are deluded if you think a fish can run.

He thinks a fish can drown mate

 

[Sam.]

He thinks a fish can drown mate

Touche, good with words i can tell you that much. However it can be eaten by shark.

 

[A-Team]

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I think you are deluded if you think a fish can run.

The logic some of the folks carry here is beyond me.