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Afghanistan wants India’s inclusion in Pak-Afghan transit pact

For us Pakistan, Afganistan is a good market. Our industry sell its product in Afganistan. We just can not avoid Afganistan. For them Pakistan is the cheapest route, they also can not avoid us.
India should be given ground route but their trucks should not be allowed on Pakistan soil, instead a station should be established at Wagha, where Indian trucks should disembark goods to Pakistani trucks and they should proceed further to Afganistan.
That way, Afganistan will save the transportation cost and Pakistan will earn money.
 
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[QUOTE="hussain0216, post: 9961857, member: 1397
By going through Taliban territory?[/QUOTE]

Currently, this is under Afghanistan control
 
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For us Pakistan, Afganistan is a good market. Our industry sell its product in Afganistan. We just can not avoid Afganistan. For them Pakistan is the cheapest route, they also can not avoid us.
India should be given ground route but their trucks should not be allowed on Pakistan soil, instead a station should be established at Wagha, where Indian trucks should disembark goods to Pakistani trucks and they should proceed further to Afganistan.
That way, Afganistan will save the transportation cost and Pakistan will earn money.
At last someone making sense...not like the adolosent green brigade on pdf.
 
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For us Pakistan, Afganistan is a good market. Our industry sell its product in Afganistan. We just can not avoid Afganistan. For them Pakistan is the cheapest route, they also can not avoid us.
India should be given ground route but their trucks should not be allowed on Pakistan soil, instead a station should be established at Wagha, where Indian trucks should disembark goods to Pakistani trucks and they should proceed further to Afganistan.
That way, Afganistan will save the transportation cost and Pakistan will earn money.
This is what currently in practice
 
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Is india not a overpopulated, poverty and hunger striken cess pool?

Yes we are. But see the track record from 1947.

Moreover I was talking about your "destiny", (intentions) of destroying India. Look what happened ???? We have added ore territory to our country since 47 while you had lost almost half in the process of enmity towards India. If India and Pakistan were not enemies, the outcome of 1971 liberation war by Bengali's would have had a completely different outcome, or such a war wouldn't have taken place in the first place. Now sit back and enjoy your destiny. LOL :p:
 
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Is india not a overpopulated, poverty and hunger striken cess pool?
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If you say so, but it is much better than rabid hell hole where people blow themselves for want of imagined virgins after death.

Look, it is pretty easy to call names, isn't it?
 
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Yes we are. But see the track record from 1947.

Moreover I was talking about your "destiny", (intentions) of destroying India. Look what happened ???? We have added ore territory to our country since 47 while you had lost almost half in the process of enmity towards India. If India and Pakistan were not enemies, the outcome of 1971 liberation war by Bengali's would have had a completely different outcome, or such a war wouldn't have taken place in the first place. Now sit back and enjoy your destiny. LOL :p:

Bangladesh was over 1000 miles away from us, and as per partition is a muslim majority state as its supposed to be

Pakistan is an independent country and as we hit our economic growth spurt so will our military grow further

Pakistan is a loaded gun aimed at India's head with 150 nuclear warheads pointed at you

India cant even claim to have power in its own region with Pakistan being a constant threat


The choice of occupying kashmir and creating emnity in South Asia was india's, that emnity is set in stone and will only get worse

If you say so, but it is much better than rabid hell hole where people blow themselves for want of imagined virgins after death.

Look, it is pretty easy to call names, isn't it?

India is the same cess pit, is being hung by cow gangs or gang raped any better?
 
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America is failing in Afghanistan and Muslim world at large. China is encircling you. Things don't look good for India, it is becoming an advocate of a failed world order and promoter of violence against Muslims. Pakistan will expose your role in abetting Muslim enemies in the Muslim world. Be prepared for Ghazwa Hind Bi**h. The only real ally you will have will be Israel which will remain to be seen as a colony of foreign invaders for the rest of its existence.


LOL, you are free to live in your dilution world of If's, But's, Will happen etc. etc.

Here I was talking about what Mr. @hussain0216 said below and what Pakistan really gained by following the logic of your destiny to destroy India till date ???
We dont really care, we just know we dont want to work with India

It is our manifest destiny to destroy that hindutva republic

Apparently Pakistan had lost more in terms of Territory, People, Economy and Dignity when compared to India just because you followed your destiny as mentioned above. :p:

Even rational thinkers from Pakistan also think so. Not your Ghazwa Hind crap. :(
 
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America is failing in Afghanistan and Muslim world at large. China is encircling you. Things don't look good for India, it is becoming an advocate of a failed world order and promoter of violence against Muslims. Pakistan will expose your role in abetting Muslim enemies in the Muslim world. Be prepared for Ghazwa Hind Bi**h. The only real ally you will have will be Israel which will remain to be seen as a colony of foreign invaders for the rest of its existence.

Pakistani radicals r accusing your army of apostate and lackey of US. Its in your best interest to stop radicals in Afghanistan. If they capture kabul,next stop will be Islamabad. This is the reason pakistan army is fighting all over pakistan for last 15 years against radicals and trying to fence Afghanistan border
 
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LOL, you are free to live in your dilution world of If's, But's, Will happen etc. etc.

Here I was talking about what Mr. @hussain0216 said below and what Pakistan really gained by following the logic of your destiny to destroy India till date ???


Apparently Pakistan had lost more in terms of Territory, People, Economy and Dignity when compared to India just because you followed your destiny as mentioned above. :p:

Even rational thinkers from Pakistan also think so. Not your Ghazwa Hind crap. :(


Think what we have gained however, a independent nation free of any indian influence whatsoever

India is a 1.3 billion overpopulated cess pit but its by a distance the largest state of South Asia

Inevitably it would have been the centre of a South Asian economic and political union, without the impetus of emnity Pakistan may have fallen into this economic and political influence of its larger neighbour

Emnity created the basis for Pakistani freedom regardless of costs with a large nuclear stockpile a massive military complex, a growing economy and near non existent indian influence either economic, military or political

Emnity with india has freed us from helping india
 
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Afghanistan wants India’s inclusion in Pak-Afghan transit pact
By Ghulam Abbas -
October 22, 2017

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With Afghanistan’s clear message that until India is included as third party there will be no use of Afghanistan-Pakistan Transit Trade Agreement, the bilateral trade is expected to fall further in future.

According to reliable sources, Afghanistan, while denying attending a recently-scheduled meeting of Afghanistan-Pakistan Transit Trade Coordination Authority (APTTCA), has made it clear that the agreement has lost its importance for keeping India outside.

Talking to Pakistan Today, FPCCI Standing Committee on Afghanistan Transit Trade Chairman Engr Daroo Khan Achakzai said that as the demand of Kabul was unacceptable for Pakistan the bilateral trade was likely to shrink further causing diversion of Afghan’s trade towards Iran and other central Asian countries.

Daroo Khan, who has been member of ATTCA, said that last meeting of the authority was held in February 2015 in which Kabul was given the offer of including Tajikistan or any other Central Asian state in the agreement to expand the access of the landlocked country. It was later agreed to include Tajikistan holding next meeting of APTTCA in Dushanbe. However it was not materialised for various reasons mainly due to Afghanistan’s insistence to include India in the agreement.

Relaxing conditions, Pakistan had allowed Afghanistan to export its goods to India via Pakistan, however, imports from India were not allowed. Under the said agreement, Afghan goods mostly perishable items are being sent to India via Wagah Border.

“The agreement was to be revised in the scheduled meeting this month. However Afghan government called off the meeting with a Pakistan delegation citing the reason that since India is not being allowed to be a part of the agreement, Kabul does not want a futile exercise,” he said adding that it was unfortunate that Afghanistan has backtracked from the agreement.

APTTCA is a crucial trade body whose responsibility is to ensure smooth implementation of the trade treaty between the two countries. The agreement was signed in 2010 for next five years and it was agreed to hold meeting of the authority after every six months. In 2015 it was revived till further order.

“Apart from the dysfunctional APTTCA, the stiff conditions set for Afghan’s trade in Pakistan are also hampering bilateral trade. The major conditions discouraging the trade include the containerization of goods, insuring goods, installing tracker system, scanning of export goods, difference in grantee vale, monopolized transport system etc,” he said.

“Making it a compulsory to use a ‘certain’ transport vehicles and tracking system for lifting goods from Afghan border to Karachi Port is not only damaging bilateral trade but also adding no benefit to government exchequer,” he said adding that Afghan exporters did not face the same conditions in Iran. They rather are more facilitated at Chahbahar port.

“Afghan trucks were allowed to lift import goods from any part of Pakistan to Kabul after offloading Afghan origin goods at Wahgah. However, the Afghan drivers feeling uneasy to drive on left hand side of the road in Pakistan do not lift imported goods from Pakistan while on their way back to Kabul,” Daroo Khan said while replying to a query.

According to available statistics, India has become major destination for Afghanistan’s goods where Kabul exports 43 per cent of its goods mostly food items. While Afghan’s imports from Iran, Tajikistan, India, China are increasing, it still imports 39 per cent of goods from Pakistan.

As Afghanistan’s divergence of trade continues to avoid dependency on Pakistan, Islamabad’s exports to the landlocked country have reduced from $2.6 billion to $1.2 billion during the past five years. According to experts, Afghanistan has been a key export destination for Pakistani goods for the last two decades. But downslide has been seen in trade during past few years.


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So what happened to the ultra successful Afghanistan india air corridor and Chabahar port? Why do they need us when they have the above? :azn:
 
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Bangladesh was over 1000 miles away from us, and as per partition is a muslim majority state as its supposed to be

Let me answer one by one. Yes, East Pakistan was 1000 Miles away, but it was still Pakistan right ??? What is it now ?? Just another Muslim Majority nation.

Pakistan is an independent country and as we hit our economic growth spurt so will our military grow further

Again If's, But's and Will ???? Meanwhile, do you thing others including India will be sitting idle watching you ????

Pakistan is a loaded gun aimed at India's head with 150 nuclear warheads pointed at you

What is the use, even is afraid of Aedes mosquitoes because a single bite from them may prove fatal to Humans. But does that mean they are superior to Humans ???? LOL :p:

India cant even claim to have power in its own region with Pakistan being a constant threat

Nothing more than nuisance value. :p:

The choice of occupying kashmir and creating emnity in South Asia was india's, that emnity is set in stone and will only get worse

Why do you lie so blatantly when the history is in front of whole world. It was Pakistan who choose to attack Kingdom of Kashmir while having signed a standstill agreement with the Maharajah. India came to rescue the King and the Kingdom from the infiltrators. If you couldn't liberate that territory after multiple attempts why complain ???? Why don't give it a try once again rather than whining. :haha:

Think what we have gained however, a independent nation free of any indian influence whatsoever

India is a 1.3 billion overpopulated cess pit but its by a distance the largest state of South Asia

Inevitably it would have been the centre of a South Asian economic and political union, without the impetus of emnity Pakistan may have fallen into this economic and political influence of its larger neighbour

Emnity created the basis for Pakistani freedom regardless of costs with a large nuclear stockpile a massive military complex, a growing economy and near non existent indian influence either economic, military or political

Emnity with india has freed us from helping india


Let me illiterate something in simple example, what you gained ????? Enmity with India which had intensified over the past couple years made Pakistan stop trade imports with India which even took simple Tomatoes over RS. 300 there, while you could have easily imported from us and hold the price.

Govt won’t import tomatoes from India, says minister

It's just one example. It's Pakistan who had lost more due to your enmity with India than India. :p:

Enmity had actually freed India from helping Pakistan, not the other way around. LOL :p:
 
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Let me answer one by one. Yes, East Pakistan was 1000 Miles away, but it was still Pakistan right ??? What is it now ?? Just another Muslim Majority nation.



Again If's, But's and Will ???? Meanwhile, do you thing others including India will be sitting idle watching you ????



What is the use, even is afraid of Aedes mosquitoes because a single bite from them may prove fatal to Humans. But does that mean they are superior to Humans ???? LOL :p:



Nothing more than nuisance value. :p:



Why do you lie so blatantly when the history is in front of whole world. It was Pakistan who choose to attack Kingdom of Kashmir while having signed a standstill agreement with the Maharajah. India came to rescue the King and the Kingdom from the infiltrators. If you couldn't liberate that territory after multiple attempts why complain ???? Why don't give it a try once again rather than whining. :haha:


It was a muslim majority state that simply wanted to be free from hindus and be part of Pakistan

This was the whole point of Partition, indua occupying it created the basic reason for ongoing emnity

But I will restate thst emnity regardless of cost has been the best thing for the freedom of Pakistan


After Partition with no emnity the wounds would have healed, South Asia like all the other regions of the world would have started to integrate economically, politically, maybe even militarily with security pacts

India as the largest state would be the centre of this South Asian Union
Pakistan without the encouragement of emnity and anti india hatred would not have pursued nuclear weapons, military independence or development

We would be second fiddle at best or maybe even pseudo-subservient to india, whilst india on the world stage would have presented itself as representative of South Asia


Emnity freed us from india,
Partition broke the bonds
But emnity gave us freedom
Gave us the impetus to develop the weapons, nukes, military and india independent economic and political process

Today india means diddly squat to Pakistan
Outside a desire to destroy it and free Kashmir, we want nothing to do with india and we have the weapons to end india let alone keep it at bay

No nation can develop without failures and pain, but a free Pakistan was only possible through the pain of 70 years of trial

Let me illiterate something in simple example, what you gained ????? Enmity with India which had intensified over the past couple years made Pakistan stop trade imports with India which even took simple Tomatoes over RS. 300 there, while you could have easily imported from us and hold the price.

We can grow our own Tomatoes

Our own industry is hamstrung by importing from india and hording to artificially raise the price

Only banning indian produce and a anti corruption drive will fix the problem

What we cant fulfil we can get from iran
 
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If Pakistan allows India to sell goods in Afghanistan, its will be at the cost of Pakistan's economy (manufacturing and exports to Afghanistan). So if you don't want this to happen, do as west do with Pakistan by apply too high taxes on exports from Pakistan to make it impossible to compeat internationally. Pakistan can make them pay high transit fees, its win win for Pakistan in either case if they do or if they don't, simply saying "NO we will not allow transit trade between Afghanistan India will not be accepted internationally".
Pakistan has already letting NATO using transit route for peanuts for last 16 years, its non-sense. Get rid of US&UK AID, earn it legitimately.

The greater application of this strategy will be CPEC.
 
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