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Afghanistan 'sliding towards collapse'


Afghan forces are far from ready to secure a country riddled with violence and corruption, Red Cross and think tank warn

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Emma Graham-Harrison in Kabul
The Guardian, Monday 8 October 2012 18.39 BST

The police and army in an increasingly violent Afghanistan will struggle to secure the country when foreign forces leave and the people face a corrupt presidential election in 2014, the Red Cross and a thinktank have warned.

At stake is the limited and fragile stability that has insulated Kabul and most other urban areas from more than a decade of escalating aggression since the US invasion. There are growing fears the country could face a full-blown civil war after Nato troops hand over security to the Afghan police and army, and leave.

"Time is running out," said Candace Rondeaux of the International Crisis Group thinktank, in a blunt report about the handover from coalition to Afghan troops. "Steps toward a stable transition must begin now to prevent a precipitous slide toward state collapse.

"Plagued by factionalism and corruption, Afghanistan is far from ready to assume responsibility for security when US and Nato forces withdraw in 2014."

The Long Hard Road to the 2014 Transition also argues that time is running out to ensure a 2014 presidential vote is credible or acceptable. President Hamid Karzai is due to step down in that year and powerbrokers are already jostling for position.

"It is a near certainty that under current conditions the 2014 elections will be plagued by massive fraud," the report stated. "Vote-rigging in the south and east, where security continues to deteriorate, is all but guaranteed. High levels of violence across the country before and on the day of the polls are likely to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands more would-be voters."

The last decade has brought improvements for Afghans in areas including women's rights, health and education. But for many civilians, particularly in rural areas, the steady rise of the Taliban and insurgents linked with them has also brought insecurity and misery.

"I am filled with concern as I leave this country," the outgoing head of the Afghanistan office of the International Committee of the Red Cross, Reto Stocker, told journalists in Kabul. "Since I arrived here, in 2005, local armed groups have proliferated, civilians have been caught between not just one but multiple frontlines, and it has become increasingly difficult for ordinary Afghans to obtain healthcare."

The conflict was now less brutal for civilians, however, than was the fighting that tore Afghanistan apart in the 1990s, when noncombatants were often directly targeted as a deliberate means of warfare, he said.

But many were still killed and injured, others had fled their homes to escape violence, and many Afghans who had escaped being drawn into the conflict still lived in abject poverty, extremely vulnerable to drought, flooding, earthquakes and other natural disasters.

The fragile economy was also likely to suffer, as the departure of foreign troops would hit a country dependent on war spending, from construction to fuel transportation, Stocker added.

"Hardship arising from the economic situation or from severe weather or natural disaster has become more widespread, and hope for the future has been steadily declining," he said.

Afghanistan's insecurity also appears to be fuelling its drug control problems. The country is already the world's largest producer of opium, with the UN saying on Monday the number of Afghan families growing cannabis as a cash crop leaped by more than a third last year.

Afghanistan 'sliding towards collapse' | World news | The Guardian
 
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Chaos in Afghanistan has a high likelihood of spilling over into Pakistan, with unpleasant consequences.
 
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Chaos in Afghanistan has a high likelihood of spilling over into Pakistan, with unpleasant consequences.

I doubt that..Your ISI has good links with Taliban.Unless you have a foreign country interfering things should be fine.
 
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Chaos in Afghanistan has a high likelihood of spilling over into Pakistan, with unpleasant consequences.

Chances of refugees coming back in case of chaos in Afghanistan are much more compared to violence, as God forbid, i see a future of Afghanistan like the past one, with Afghanistan divided in two halves between NA & Taliban / any other group, and fighting between each other continuing.

I hope, we never see such a day.
 
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Al Guardian should bother about Pakistan. Afghanistan with Indian and American help can manage very well.
 
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Al Guardian should bother about Pakistan. Afghanistan with Indian and American help can manage very well.

lol, don't make yourself look embarrassingly stupid here. Its Afghanistan thats a war zone, not Pakistan.

Pakistan can defend itself. Pakistan has a dedicated army and institutions.

Besides that, Afghans don't want Americans and especially Indians on their soil.

Mind your own business.

Also I believe the Naxalites are ripping Bharat apart. I would be worried about India collapsing than Pakistan.

The stupid media is biased.
 
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lol, don't make yourself look embarrassingly stupid here. Its Afghanistan thats a war zone, not Pakistan.

Pakistan can defend itself. Pakistan has a dedicated army and institutions.

Besides that, Afghans don't want Americans and especially Indians on their soil.

Mind your own business.

Also I believe the Naxalites are ripping Bharat apart. I would be worried about India collapsing than Pakistan.

The stupid media is biased.

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Lol, Afghanistan 'sliding towards collapse'? and the western solution? NATO/ISAF/US should stay in Afghanistan for a longer period without any benefits to Afghanistan simple as that! US should accept our demands for the security pact or else get their ***** out of Afghanistan! paying their puppet media outlets for propaganda is not going to work in Afghan society!

This is a psychological warfare to depress and scare the people and make them accept what is not in their interest! by transferring security to Afghans we in Afghanistan (not outsiders or forumers) can see a significant improvement in security; in 2009/10/11 we had terrorism incidents every couple of week in Kabul itself, we had a surge of Taliban in north, Taliban had a strong presence in south, even the west witnessed Taliban activity but things have remarkably changed after security transitions and some big joint operations, this year we only witnessed a couple of failed attacks in Kabul, north is completely free of Taliban, Taliban have lost their strong hold in south all of the mess is now gathered in east.

I had a visit to Ghazni province weeks ago which has a relative presence of Taliban; I with my own ears heard people talking "Taliban fears ANA more than Americans they kill them on sight, they(ANA) don't take them with themselves they(ANA) don't take time deciding their(Taliban) fate"

So again, we will do whatever is in our interest!
 
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Lol, Afghanistan 'sliding towards collapse'? and the western solution? NATO/ISAF/US should stay in Afghanistan for a longer period without any benefits to Afghanistan simple as that! US should accept our demands for the security pact or else get their ***** out of Afghanistan! paying their puppet media outlets for propaganda is not going to work in Afghan society!

This is a psychological warfare to depress and scare the people and make them accept what is not in their interest! by transferring security to Afghans we in Afghanistan (not outsiders or forumers) can see a significant improvement in security; in 2009/10/11 we had terrorism incidents every couple of week in Kabul itself, we had a surge of Taliban in north, Taliban had a strong presence in south, even the west witnessed Taliban activity but things have remarkably changed after security transitions and some big joint operations, this year we only witnessed a couple of failed attacks in Kabul, north is completely free of Taliban, Taliban have lost their strong hold in south all of the mess is now gathered in east.

I had a visit to Ghazni province weeks ago which has a relative presence of Taliban; I with my own ears heard people talking "Taliban fears ANA more than Americans they kill them on sight, they(ANA) don't take them with themselves they(ANA) don't take time deciding their(Taliban) fate"

So again, we will do whatever is in our interest!

Don't give us nonsense. Look at Afghanistan. Afghanistan has been in perpetual war for 33 years!

A little more than a generation. Afghanistan is a completely destroyed country.

Afghanistan has no industry, no real dedicated institutions, Afghanistan is deeply factionalized, has western invaders from the other side of the world.

Most Afghanistanis want the westerners out, and want to solve their domestic issues themselves. They don't want outsiders to tell them what is good and bad for them.

The Afghanistanis know what is good and bad for them.


lol, give me a break. Don't give me pictures to show your point.

We Pakistanis are completely aware of our problems.

India has more problems than Pakistan. lol. There won't be any war spillage over Pakistan.

But I'm afraid the naxalites are starting to bite India apart. lol.

Don't worry, Bush's crusade has almost reached it's time limit, thats right 2014.

When the westerners leave Afghanistan, the world will be different place.
 
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Most Afghanistanis want the westerners out, and want to solve their domestic issues themselves. They don't want outsiders to tell them what is good and bad for them.

The Afghanistanis know what is good and bad for them.

And you are telling that to a Afghan...lmao

I had a visit to Ghazni province weeks ago which has a relative presence of Taliban; I with my own ears heard people talking "Taliban fears ANA more than Americans they kill them on sight, they(ANA) don't take them with themselves they(ANA) don't take time deciding their(Taliban) fate"

Thats how it should be. Give no ****, take no prisoners. Good going ANA..:tup:
 
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Don't give us nonsense. Look at Afghanistan. Afghanistan has been in perpetual war for 33 years!

A little more than a generation. Afghanistan is a completely destroyed country.

Afghanistan has no industry, no real dedicated institutions, Afghanistan is deeply factionalized, has western invaders from the other side of the world.

Most Afghanistanis want the westerners out, and want to solve their domestic issues themselves. They don't want outsiders to tell them what is good and bad for them.

The Afghanistanis know what is good and bad for them.

Whatever you said except the bold line, is without any source nor any logic so it's a mere disgrace to your own personality! keep it up!
 
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