Afghanistan seeks defence ties with India

[Bhai Zakir]

Afghanistan seeks defence ties with India



New Delhi: Afghanistan has sought a deepening of defence ties with India including the supply of lethal weapons and hardware and Indian Roots on the ground.

Afghan ambassador to India Shaida M. Abdali, briefing journalists on Thursday ahead of a three-day visit to India by Afghan president Hamid Karzai next week, said: “Your security investment in Afghanistan is to protect you from the spillover effects from Afghanistan.”
The comments come about a year ahead of the international troop withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2014.

“We would like to go beyond the current trend of cooperation,” he said, referring to the defence cooperation between India and Afghanistan in training of Afghan National Army and Afghan National Police personnel in India.

“So we are seeking more,” he said.

When asked whether he would like to see Indian troop presence in Afghanistan, Abdali said the matter and other defence cooperation were under discussion. He also urged India not to look at Afghanistan through the prism of Pakistan. India and Afghanistan are two independent nations and neither should look at their bilateral relationship through the prism of their ties to Pakistan, he said.

The Indian government, which has been uneasy with committing military troops to Afghanistan, did not immediately comment on Abdali’s remarks.


Afghanistan seeks defence ties with India - Livemint

 

[tvsram1992]

Any country other than India would have used Afghanistan as a puppet but India views them as a strategic asset .

 

[FaujHistorian]

Any country other than India would have used Afghanistan as a puppet but India views them as a strategic asset .

One would be naive to make such statements.

However in this case, Afghanistan is making a puppet out India.

Why it is so.

Well it goes back 1000s of years, when Afghanistanis extracted Bhatta (mafia tax) from India Rajas.

Indian Rajas were happy to pay this bhatta, because they used the Afghanistani hoards/war lords against other Indian rajas.


In some ways modern day indians are still "mental slaves" or perhaps "hostages in psychological sense" of the days from 1000 AD.


Pakistanis too are mental slaves of 18th/19th century but in a different way.


And Afghanistanis are stuck in the past as well.

---- They are stuck in 1000AD when dealing with India
---- they are stuck in 19th century when dealing with Pakistan.



So please learn your history, before making statements.


Thank you


p.s. I don't know how many Indians will notice that even the Afghanistani ambassador receiving/managing the Bhatta (mafia tax) has a last name of "Abdali". Oh! the irony. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[INDIC]

One would be naive to make such statements.

However in this case, Afghanistan is making a puppet out India.

Why it is so.

Well it goes back 1000s of years, when Afghanistanis extracted Bhatta (mafia tax) from India Rajas.

Indian Rajas were happy to pay this bhatta, because they used the Afghanistani hoards/war lords against other Indian rajas.


In some ways modern day indians are still "mental slaves" or perhaps "hostages in psychological sense" of the days from 1000 AD.


Pakistanis too are mental slaves of 18th/19th century but in a different way.


And Afghanistanis are stuck in the past as well.

---- They are stuck in 1000AD when dealing with India
---- they are stuck in 19th century when dealing with Pakistan.



So please learn your history, before making statements.


Thank you

Things you are talking about is completely irrelevant. Afghanistan is currently fighting Pakistan supported Taliban and Pakistan in the past had used Afghan Taliban against India.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Things you are talking about is completely irrelevant. Afghanistan is currently fighting Pakistan supported Taliban and Pakistan in the past had used Afghan Taliban against India.

Well as I said, most of us Pakistanis do not want to understand our military history, so we go from one crisis to another.


Similarly so many indian intellectuals (like yourself) do not want to learn from the history, and thus India too goes from crisis to crisis in the region.


Obviously it is $tupid to ignore Talbi-b@stards and their despicable role in the region.


However you as and Indian or I as a Pakistani will never understand Talib-b@stard phenomenon unless we learn from the history of our region.



peace


p.s. Even one tiny area of Wazirastan has a military history that we in Pakistan refuse to study. And guess what, few Waziris are fOrking our @rses on daily basis.

 

[livingdead]

@FaujHistorian : Its one thing to read history another to draw conclusion based on events that bear no resemblance to today's people and country.
We are dealing with today's afganistan (or Iran, mongolia, KSA) based on today's status, and refuse to remain hostage to past.

As western countries (especially USA) is militarily way more powerful than us, we treat them like mongols were treated. You are right about some things never change, the powerful gets to bully others...

I have seen quite a few pakistanis making similar comments (afgans are out to get us punjabis), that is quite silly thought.

 

[FaujHistorian]

@FaujHistorian : Its one thing to read history another to draw conclusion based on events that bear no resemblance to today's people and country.
We are dealing with today's afganistan (or Iran, mongolia, KSA) based on today's status, and refuge to remain hostage to past.
:

When you study Newton's laws, you are not a hostage to 17th century. Are you?

When you want to study great tank battles of WW-II, do you think you are a hostage to the past?

When you study Battle of the Bulge, do you think you are stuck in the past?
---- Had Saddamn studied this as a student, he would have avoided utter destruction of his army in GW1.

When you study 67 air war of Israel-Arab conflict, are you a hostage to the past?


It is so sad to see an educated person to come up with reasons like you just did.

....
I have seen quite a few pakistanis making similar comments (afgans are out to get us punjabis), that is quite silly thought. lol:

It is the other way around. But you never understood the intellectual point.

Sadly.

 

[IamINDIA]

One would be naive to make such statements.

However in this case, Afghanistan is making a puppet out India.

Why it is so.

Well it goes back 1000s of years, when Afghanistanis extracted Bhatta (mafia tax) from India Rajas.

Indian Rajas were happy to pay this bhatta, because they used the Afghanistani hoards/war lords against other Indian rajas.


In some ways modern day indians are still "mental slaves" or perhaps "hostages in psychological sense" of the days from 1000 AD.


Pakistanis too are mental slaves of 18th/19th century but in a different way.


And Afghanistanis are stuck in the past as well.

---- They are stuck in 1000AD when dealing with India
---- they are stuck in 19th century when dealing with Pakistan.



So please learn your history, before making statements.


Thank you


p.s. I don't know how many Indians will notice that even the Afghanistani ambassador receiving/managing the Bhatta (mafia tax) has a last name of "Abdali". Oh! the irony. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

this guys is on weed.

 

[FaujHistorian]

this guys is on weed.

Your post is the finest example of Indian education and intellect. NOT!

 

[karan21]

If India has to become a world power then I believe Afghanistan is the place to start with. We should not back down from building defence ties with them.

 

[EXPERIMENT]

Well as I said, most of us Pakistanis do not want to understand our military history, so we go from one crisis to another.


Similarly so many indian intellectuals (like yourself) do not want to learn from the history, and thus India too goes from crisis to crisis in the region.


Obviously it is $tupid to ignore Talbi-b@stards and their despicable role in the region.


However you as and Indian or I as a Pakistani will never understand Talib-b@stard phenomenon unless we learn from the history of our region.



peace


p.s. Even one tiny area of Wazirastan has a military history that we in Pakistan refuse to study. And guess what, few Waziris are fOrking our @rses on daily basis.

Though you historical points are valid. You seem to have chosen to not factor in the creation of Pakistan, The heavily guarded border between India and Pakistan, And the non existence of Raja's (A unified Indian Defence Force)

 

[AirDefence]

One would be naive to make such statements.

However in this case, Afghanistan is making a puppet out India.

Why it is so.

Well it goes back 1000s of years, when Afghanistanis extracted Bhatta (mafia tax) from India Rajas.

Indian Rajas were happy to pay this bhatta, because they used the Afghanistani hoards/war lords against other Indian rajas.


In some ways modern day indians are still "mental slaves" or perhaps "hostages in psychological sense" of the days from 1000 AD.


Pakistanis too are mental slaves of 18th/19th century but in a different way.


And Afghanistanis are stuck in the past as well.

---- They are stuck in 1000AD when dealing with India
---- they are stuck in 19th century when dealing with Pakistan.



So please learn your history, before making statements.


Thank you


p.s. I don't know how many Indians will notice that even the Afghanistani ambassador receiving/managing the Bhatta (mafia tax) has a last name of "Abdali". Oh! the irony. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

pakistan doesnt exists at that time, lolz

 

[Sugarcane]

Still seeking??, I thought they have defense pact with India.

Or it's about Karzai's defense after NATO withdrawal?

 

[Sugarcane]

p.s. I don't know how many Indians will notice that even the Afghanistani ambassador receiving/managing the Bhatta (mafia tax) has a last name of "Abdali". Oh! the irony. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

LOL - Great find, btw after US withdrawel India 11 gunah lagan bharay ga, this thread is example - You want to secure your investment, Invest more

 

[Water Car Engineer]

One would be naive to make such statements.

However in this case, Afghanistan is making a puppet out India.

Why it is so.

Well it goes back 1000s of years, when Afghanistanis extracted Bhatta (mafia tax) from India Rajas.

Indian Rajas were happy to pay this bhatta, because they used the Afghanistani hoards/war lords against other Indian rajas.


In some ways modern day indians are still "mental slaves" or perhaps "hostages in psychological sense" of the days from 1000 AD.


Pakistanis too are mental slaves of 18th/19th century but in a different way.


And Afghanistanis are stuck in the past as well.

---- They are stuck in 1000AD when dealing with India
---- they are stuck in 19th century when dealing with Pakistan.



So please learn your history, before making statements.


Thank you


p.s. I don't know how many Indians will notice that even the Afghanistani ambassador receiving/managing the Bhatta (mafia tax) has a last name of "Abdali". Oh! the irony. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Lol, makes no sense how you connect the two. India then was a whole bunch of kingdoms. India now is MUCH bigger, stronger, etc, etc. Afghanistan now is not even independent.

It's like somehow connecting the Mongol-Chinese relations today to Genghis Khan's times.