Afghanistan rejects its soil was used to attack Bacha Khan University

[IceCold]

You only pleased the Saudis and Americans we were the people who faught the USSR. If Pakistan was ever noble it would have brought all 8 mujahideen factions into one and didn't fueled civil war by dictating each of the mujahideen comander to fire 600, 400 or 200 rockets on Kabul and other cities depending on their loyality to Pakistan, which in return created refugee crisis for Pakistan.

We pleased no body. We are not Afghans. The only reason we supported one faction was after it became abundantly clear that the other was in bed with the Indians. Had we not done that we would be facing the exact same thing than what we are facing today, a hostile Afghanistan. We share a long open border with you and anything that happened in Afghanistan had a direct impact on us the same way its happening now. We cannot remain oblivious to that.
The rest of your Post about rockets is crap because Afghanistan was more stable and peaceful than compared to now.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Mind your words kid...
You want to kill PM sharif?
Let me tell u no other leader(pakistani) can bring economic progress which nawaz did. I can bet you in this .

None of your business SON, bugger off, we can say whatever we wish about our politicians.
There is a general consensus in Pakistan to "sort" these politicians ones and for all. If tomorrow some nutcase come to power in Pakistan and hang all this political elite by their balls, I can assure you, hardly anyone would shed tears for them. Economic progress is coming not because of Nawaz but because of the country establishment taking strong stance against foreign sponsored terrorism in our land.

That's a sole Russian fake report nothing else; though NATO has appreciated tens of times the achievements and sacrifices of our forces just recently renewed that again and pledge lasting support to ANDS.

The only thing that Pakistan has made for her later future is a very hostile country on her west and Pakistan with it's less wided geography will be in big trouble if any time her east neighbor retaliates; but unlike us you guys will have some places to hide such as Arabian sea in the south.



Don't put your incompetence on either of Kabul or Delhi.

As long as $ flowing from UNHCR to your government Afghan refugees will remained untouched; you awaam are fools.

Come up with something better then one liner, I may reply to you.

 

[tsinga]

If anything, Afghanistan's security must be beefed up.

It appears that Pakistan will try to use this as an excuse to violate the sovereignty of Afghanistan. The Afghans must ensure that any such moves carry a cost for Pakistan.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

If anything, Afghanistan's security must be beefed up.

It appears that Pakistan will try to use this as an excuse to violate the sovereignty of Afghanistan. The Afghans must ensure that any such moves carry a cost for Pakistan.

Last time I check, the foreign forces are still operating inside Afghanistan, since when Afghanistan became a sovereign country since 9/11? You dont become soverign when your security is in the hands of foreign forces. India is there because Afghanistan is not sovereign yet, do remember this. If Pakistan do conduct military strikes against the terrorist infrastructure and the "sponsors" who killed our children, we will be doing service to Afghanistan to get rid of this cancer as it seems they are incapable of doing themselves. We have already done our bit during Zarb-e-Azb. Extending it inside Afghanistan would be next logical thing.

 

[NIA]

None of your business SON, bugger off, we can say whatever we wish about our politicians.

Not about business...Its against forum rules.
I tried my best to him him(other wise Pro-Nawaz supporters will jump in and derail the thread.)
No need to tell me what I have to do.KID
@waz Sir did i do any mistake by asking him not to abuse Pakistani PM?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Not about business...Its against forum rules.
I tried my best to him him(other wise Pro-Nawaz supporters will jump in and derail the thread.)
No need to tell me what I have to do.KID
@waz Sir did i do any mistake by asking him not to abuse Pakistani PM?

I hope you are not as old as your shoe size, SON.
What we say about our politicians is our own INTERNAL matter. You have no clue how much we loath and abuse our political elite, in media or social media as per say. Its called freedom of expression!
Whatever I said about Nawaz Shareef is the feeling that majority of Pakistani hold, specially in post Charsadda Pakistan. His acceptance of Indian version of Pathankot incident as well has not win him many cheerleaders in Pakistan that is for sure.
For you as an Indian, you need to mind your own business and stop worrying about Pakistani PM, but I can see where your love for Nawaz Shareef is coming from.

 

[NIA]

I hope you are not as old as your shoe size, SON.
What we say about our politicians is our own INTERNAL matter. You have no clue how much we loath and abuse our political elite, in media or social media as per say. Its called freedom of expression!
Whatever I said about Nawaz Shareef is the feeling that majority of Pakistani hold, specially in post Charsadda Pakistan. His acceptance of Indian version of Pathankot incident as well has not win him many cheerleaders in Pakistan that is for sure.
For you as an Indian, you need to mind your own business and stop worrying about Pakistani PM, but I can see where your love for Nawaz Shareef is coming from.

Care to explain.

 

[koolio]

So help me understand. As per you, Afghanistan is under Afghan Taliban, which are Pakistan's best friends / strategic assets. And yet you claim that the terror attacks in Pakistan are getting launched from Afghanistan. Then does this not imply that your own friendly AT and Haqquani group, who control Afghanistan are allowing their controlled territory being used to attack Pakistan.. ??

Oh!! what a tangled web

Is it really hard for you to understand, its not just Afghan Taliban who control most of Afghanistan, TTP controls Nuristan and Kunar provinces where they have safe havens, the Afghan government is reluctant to take any action against them hence where they have regrouped and launch terrorist attacks into Pakistan.

 

[waz]

Not about business...Its against forum rules.
I tried my best to him him(other wise Pro-Nawaz supporters will jump in and derail the thread.)
No need to tell me what I have to do.KID
@waz Sir did i do any mistake by asking him not to abuse Pakistani PM?

No you did not. Carry on.

 

[airmarshal]

You think Nawaz Sharif, a PM who is weak in his conviction due his personal and business interests, will respond to this.

Shame on Pakistan and Pakistani. That a country which has nuclear weapons is a country with zero credibility. That a war ravaged country like Afghanistan shows it its middle finger and Pakistan stays mum!

 

[tarrar]

Why beg to Afghanistan when a terrorist filled country is saying "its soil is not used for terrorism". Pakistan should take its interests very seriously & hard steps should be taken for the safety of Pakistan.

 

[Dalit]

That only shows how incompetent is the Pakistani forces in dealing with the home grown terrorism inside Pakistan, despite PA's total media blackout on 'ground realities' during zarb-e-arb operation; their public has gone outragous upon this single terror. Afghanistan has nothing to do with any of this there are moles in Pakistan's civilian and military leadership who assist these people on bases of particular joint interests.

Pakistan should help elaminate Afghan taliban within it's soil or make them surrender via peace process. Pakistanis had high hopes of the zarb-e-azb operation; such operations has taken place in Afghanistan like 10s of times which had only temporary effect but not a long term since Taliban are not a conventional force they chose to hide or prefere no fire exchange with any force during any large operation but the next dawn things turns the same when forces leave the areas terming them 'cleaned'.

Don't think for a moment you will get away with this act of terrorism. Unless Afghanistan doesn't cleanup Indian terror consulates on its soil it will remain a backward and destabilized country as it is. A totally failed militant controlled narcotic state where even a superpower cannot get things improved after more than a decade. Killing innocent Pakistanis isn't going to get Afghanistan any further. You be rest assured about that. You'll pay for these crimes and you'll be the witness of this. Mark my words.

First we are going to deport every last potential Afghan suicide attacker from our soil back to Afghanistan. Then, we are going to seal the border and destroy everything coming our way from your side. You have no idea what the consequences are going to be after these latest terror attacks, but you'll see in time.

 

[I.R.A]

Had Pakistan acted after APS we would not have to see this day. Kidnapping and killing Pakistani children is nothing new for Afghan terrorists, they have done it before and they are still doing it.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/21/world/afghan-gunmen-hijack-a-school-bus-in-pakistan.html

https://www.facebook.com/pakistanidefence/posts/10152304922837663

 

[Dalit]

1. that's quite a accusation coming from Pakistan , when the India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and even USA openly accuse the same on Pakistan. USAs pentagon went on open record to state that Pakistan military allow proxies militants to infiltrate Afghanistan an India. USA rejected the "evidence" submitted by Sharif in his last visit .



2.narcotic state , hypocritical much ?Pakistan is also a part of the narcotic triad, whose branches reaches most of south Asia .even with the heavy militarization hasn't curbed their influence. i remember Pakistan titled as "the most heroin addict country in the world" .
if pakistan a country that spends most of its GDP on defense per capita in S.asia ,can't fight off smugglers , what hopes does aganistan have.


3.accusations and more accusations.

4.thats rediculous , for 3 reasons

• to the east its goes against the logic and signed agreements to build a will in POKs LOC. also its practically impossible because of the terrain.

• budget , unless you want to bankrupt the country for the next half century, you cant build a wall that spans 5529km

• .there are a huge percentage of home grown terrorist groups affiliated to many other illegal organizations like the drug triads , they can just as easily smuggle people in and out the country. this is simple logic of how the world works.

Learn some proper English before replying. I can't even make sense of half what you have written.

Having said that, it is a well established fact that India is involved in sowing terror through its suicide bombing academies in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is an Indian proxy headquarter. Indians train, finance and plot terror attacks against Pakistan from these terror cells. Whether the US, Bangladesh, India or any other country blame Pakistan for the same thing doesn't take away this solid fact. Also, the Americans blame half of the world for the problems they have created themselves. The Americans have created ISIS, Taliban, AQ and so forth. They have made the world unsafe today. Yet, they blame others for their own problems. Your rhetoric cannot be taken seriously. Tell me something new.

As for the US rejecting our evidence is totally meaningless. Pakistan is merely presenting its case and carrying out its responsibility by doing so. If the Americans reject Pakistani evidence we are going to go ahead and do whatever needs to be done anyway. We don't need Indian, Bangladeshi or American support for that. We will decide what is in our best interest and act accordingly.

1. We will deport every last Afghan from our soil which is a threat to our national security. Undocumented Afghan refugees are high in demand and sought to carry out suicide attacks in Pakistan. The latest attack against innocent university students illustrates this fact very clearly. Afghans have only brought misery and pain to Pakistan. We reject Afghan culture of opium and AK-47 in our land.

2. We are going to close down the border to curb the flow of Indian sponsored terrorism emanating from Afghanistan. We know how to do it and we will do it. We don't have to fence an entire border. Technology along with smart thinking can get the desired results. No matter how rugged or difficult the terrain. We don't care about what Afghans think or say. We only care about our safety.

The last time I heard Afghanistan was the main producer of heroin, opium and other drugs in the entire world. Even the Afghan government which consists of warlords is part and parcel of the opium nexus in their country. Pakistan and other regional countries are bound to be affected by the Afghan opium production. What is the big deal if you heard that Pakistan has a huge number of heroin addicts? That only proves that this too is the fault of the failed state of Afghanistan. Afghanistan only knows how to spread drugs and its entire economy runs on the production of opium. If anything, Pakistan along with Iran and other nations around the world are the victims. By closing the border, Pakistan also addresses the Afghan drugs smuggling problem into our country.

There is no future for a failed country like Afghanistan where warlords rape children and women for fun. Where there are no rights for women and children. A country which thrives on opium production and where tribal killings are a daily affair. Yes, Pakistan should have closed its borders long ago. Better late than never.

 

[RescueRanger]

0 .established "facts" .

Biased speculations from Pakistani government are not facts , words are all that they have and they know it . India , afghanistan just as frequently blame the pak military. Its your facts over theirs , and frankly Pakistan's track record is against them.


America blames the world for their problems ? lol its far less than how the indian pak government blame each other , to the point it sounds retarded , a pak minister blame indian factories "hot air" for the heat strokes that killed thousands in Pakistan .
None the less USA has worked directly with the Pakistan military in both Afghanistan and Pakistan for a decade, and was the biggest aid contributor , if their accusations are not valid , then no one's is .

1. sure kick out 2% of your population, that wont cause any problems ,like the kids and grand kids who are by birth are Pakistani citizens(4-5% of Pakistan) wont be go berserk after this, the afghans migrated over 30 years ago.not to mention how ineffective it is.

2. more baseless accusations ,

Technology along with smart thinking can get the desired results.
please do share these "technologies" you are talking about. the only thing i has heard so far is wishful thinking. its funny how you Pakistanis and Indians brag about your border security when 7 year old kids can randomly walk into the country by accident. as i pointed out , Pakistan is the biggest drug trafficking country after Afghanistan .Baluchistan is barely secure .

the same rout pattern was taken to attack Indian airbase in punjab , along with multiple evidence which clearly implies that terrorists work along with drug smugglers.


last i checked Pakistan is part of the afgan drug triad , over 90% of opium comes from Afghanistan,Pakistan and Iran. there were 6.7 million drug users in Pakistan, you are really going to blame everything on Afghanistan and pretend like Pakistani citizens have no play in this? if Pakistan cant protect its borer from drug smuggling and production , its a failure of pakistan not afganistan.

funny thing is most of the world holds the same ridiculous delusions on Pakistan and middle east , its a fascinating pattern on how people think TBH.

Lol, professor go back to sleep and take this bullshit propaganda with you, also you may want to check up on your sources. No one is going to buy what your selling on this forum. Go Educate yourself beyond what they teach you in RSS camp:

Here are some REAL FACTS for you:

1. On Drugs, movement of drugs and contraband:

http://blogs.voanews.com/durand/201...tremism-calls-for-re-interpretation-of-islam/

2. On the subject of migration routes and border control:

http://www.dawn.com/news/1224350

http://www.pildat.org/PUBLICATIONS/...CTSOFPAKISTAN-AFGHANISTANBORDERMANAGEMENT.PDF

Don't come and lecture us about border control:

You come on here and lecture us about border control as if other countries much more advanced in comparison don't have the same problems:

http://www.texasobserver.org/homeland-security-corruption-border-patrol/

Why Afghan's need to go and why Operation Zarb-E-Azb was needed:
http://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...ting-ground-in-pakistans-tribal-refugee-camps

https://www.ispr.gov.pk/zarbeazb


All possibilities have been considered: Old but you get the gist ( and I am sure, judging by your diction you can understand urdu/hindi perfectly well).

3. On Countering Extremist Narrative.
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/re...iety-to-counter-violent-extremism-english.pdf
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/...pportunities-and-obstacles-for-civil-society
http://www.khudipakistan.com/blog/?p=189
http://www.ipripak.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/3-art-s-15.pdf



4. Also change your fucking flags.

@WebMaster