Afghanistan rejects its soil was used to attack Bacha Khan University

[Nilgiri]

See how the tables have turned for Pakistan.

Afghans are trolling Pakistanis in the same way, Pakistanis use to troll Indians on terrorism.

Every one including Pakistanis knew terrorist attacks in India came from Pakistan, Indians despite knowing this facts, couldn't do anything about it..as Pakistan maintained an attitude of plausible deniability and any direct action would have led to war.

And now Afghans are doing the same with Pakistanis..and despite all the table banging by Pakistani posters about surgical strikes and bombing runs , there is nothing Pakistan can do about it. And for the exact same reason.

Karma can be quite a cruel thing. There is also the added frustration that the World media picks up India's side of the story quite strongly....but they always discredit/rubbish Pakistani "version".

I mean even Pakistan govt has not officially come out and said that India is somehow behind all of this through Afghan proxies.....only their news media anchors and certain VIP guests keep braying about it.....because of the perpetual state of denial that this can be the act of homegrown terrorists.

 

[Albatross]

No international body has declared him as a terrorist.

Well no international body named afzal guru and yakoob memon a terrorist why did you people killed them.
But they were honored by hundred of thousands of men present in their funerals slapping Indian justice system.

Thousands throng Yakub Memon's funeral | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

I am sure even Modi and his likes wont get that many people when they will be finally burnt polluting this world for the last time.

 

[Atlanticore]

That only shows how incompetent is the Pakistani forces in dealing with the home grown terrorism inside Pakistan, despite PA's total media blackout on 'ground realities' during zarb-e-arb operation; their public has gone outragous upon this single terror. Afghanistan has nothing to do with any of this there are moles in Pakistan's civilian and military leadership who assist these people on bases of particular joint interests.

Pakistan should help elaminate Afghan taliban within it's soil or make them surrender via peace process. Pakistanis had high hopes of the zarb-e-azb operation; such operations has taken place in Afghanistan like 10s of times which had only temporary effect but not a long term since Taliban are not a conventional force they chose to hide or prefere no fire exchange with any force during any large operation but the next dawn things turns the same when forces leave the areas terming them 'cleaned'.

Before being badmouthed about the capability of our Armed Forces let me tell you we have confined Taliban to Waziristan and our country isn't controled by Insurgents unlike your country. They can't take over the cities here and in Afghanistan they have done it very affectively. A reason why Pakistan is a victim of terrorism is, we have long open border with your country and we also host 5 million Namak Haram Afghanies.

 

[Bratva]

Does your knowledge of history begin 2014 itself..what about the preceding decade from 2002 to 2014?

Where was Haqani network operating from?
What was Queta Shura?
Where did Mullah Omar die?

Or do you think Afghans too suffer from short term memory?

Your policy of attaining strategic depth through Afghanistan, has brought a lot of harm on Afghan people.
And they are not gonna forgive so easily.

Mullah omar died in afghanistan. His group and son said so. Because they were the ones wbo burried him. Got any stronger proof which refutes them otherwise ?


Was any Afghan talib leader caught in Pakistan? The so called Quetta shura member or Haqqani leader ?


Meanwhile,


Haqqani Leaders Detained in Persian Gulf, Not Inside Afghanistan
Detentions of Anas Haqqani and Hafiz Rashid Inside Afghanistan Had Indicated Possible Shift in Attitude

By
MARGHERITA STANCATI and

EHSANULLAH AMIRI
Updated Oct. 19, 2014 7:05 p.m. ET
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KABUL—Two recently captured top members of Afghanistan’s Haqqani network insurgent group were detained in the Persian Gulf and not in Afghanistan, as Kabul had claimed, Taliban and foreign officials said, indicating a possible shift in attitude in a region where Afghan militants have long enjoyed freedom of movement

 

[RabzonKhan]

Bomb Afghanistan, Surgical strikes, sender our forces across the border, are not going to work, the only sensible solution is that Pakistan and Afghanistan must work together to eliminate our common enemies.

 

[Albatross]

Does your knowledge of history begin 2014 itself..what about the preceding decade from 2002 to 2014?

Where was Haqani network operating from?
What was Queta Shura?
Where did Mullah Omar die?

Or do you think Afghans too suffer from short term memory?

Your policy of attaining strategic depth through Afghanistan, has brought a lot of harm on Afghan people.
And they are not gonna forgive so easily.

If you want to talk about history then go in detail as history is not limited to a time period of one's choice.

Who started the creation of Mujahidin after 1979 USSR invasion of Afghanistan?

Wasn't it US?

Who poured billion of dollars to train and arm Afghanis?

Who gave them Stingers and other game changer weapons?

It was US all over.

And then who left those illiterate maniacs to fight among themselves once USSR was broken instead of trying to create one central govt using her influence ?

It was again US.

In 90's Pakistan took side of one of the three fighting factions as other two were supported by India and iran respectively .

How can ignorant like you or most of the Indians here can blame Pakistan in anyway for creating Taliban we just took side of a fighting force already existing thanks to US weapons and billions of dollars and they consisted mainly of Pakthoons who had cultural and lingual bondage with us and were the only one willing to take our help as others were already supported by India etc

If any one is to be blame on top of the list should be US , followed by India (As she was not having border with Afghanistan and was and still is just active there to harm Pakistan)then Iran and then yeah Pakistan .

History needs to be read as it was instead of how you wanted it to be.

 

[Kaleem Ahmad]

Pak should enter in Afghanistan And crush all terrorist hideouts & their sponsors.
2nd option talk to Afg taliban openly recognise them as a legitimate representative of Afghanistan.. Support them, armed them and clear all anti #Pak hideouts plus through taliban force US & India to leave Afg.. Because until & unless USA and India will not leave....complete peace is impossible in Pak or Afg.

 

[RescueRanger]

Digital trace proved handlers were in Afghanistan. Just like to Digital trace of Pathankot led back to Pakistan. So if you gonna deny this digital trace, you may as well deny phatankot evidence and accept India orchestrated a false flag

You are speaking to a person who is so pig headed that he is not able to grasp the simple fact that we can now track the originating call, carrier, origination point, termination point and the BTS/MSE's the call was serviced from. Didn't India do the same in the case of Mumbai?

 

[Albatross]

And How is Taliban's version of Mullah Omar's death(that he died in the village of his birth) more credible than the American and present Afghan's government version? Is it because terrorist always speak the truth?

Whats the American version kindly post the link .

 

[Bratva]

And How is Taliban's version of Mullah Omar's death(that he died in the village of his birth) more credible than the American and present Afghan's government version? Is it because terrorist always speak the truth?

Offcourse No Afghan Taliban leader was caught in Pakistan..and why would they be caught in Pakistan. After all Pakistan was sheltering them!!

Do you know what Quetta Shura is ? Do you know why it is named such??

Please do provide proof America endorsed Afghan government ridiculous accusation. And please provide proof how come afghanistan government came to know of Mullah umar death ?

 

[RescueRanger]

Do you know what Quetta Shura is ? Do you know why it is named such??

Do you know who Omar Mansoor is?

You deserve a good spanking .
When India gets attacked, its perfectly fine to blame Pakistan. When Afghanistan gets attacked then its perfectly fine to blame Pakistan but when Pakistan is attacked its not fair to blame Afghanistan with which we have open border
I understand your love for Afghanistan but history tells us that Same country was Invaded by 31 Countries for same attitude of denial about 9/11 attacks and protection of Osama. You can make out with Afghanistan as much you want but you can't denie that Afghanistan is an active zone of terrorism and country which has limited Government writ is and it is confined to Kabul.

Ignore the idiot, they talk about mullah's having one sided debates, this guys are like an 8 track tape, regurgitating the same old stale rhetoric.

 

[Pandora]

They probably relocated all the people involved by now. Ab army cheif eik request aur karlay ashraf ghani say kay ao sarey maro meri.

 

[Bratva]

You are speaking to a person who is so pig headed that he is not able to grasp the simple fact that we can now track the originating call, carrier, origination point, termination point and the BTS/MSE's the call was serviced from. Didn't India do the same in the case of Mumbai?

Baghal mai churi, muh mai ram ram

Read White house press secretary statement Eric Schults statement after Mullah Omar's death was declared by Ashraf Ghani's government.

How does any government get to know off any terrorist leaders death? Intelligence.

Also do not avoid the my question about Quetta Shura? i.e. What is it..why is it called so?

Please quote the white house press statement. America didnot claim he was died in Pakistan . How come Mullah died in 2013 in karachi and Afghanistani government only came to know about in 2015 ?

You see, you exposed your ignorance quite clearly. Afghani government came to know about Mullah Omar death only when they were told by Afghan Talibs/Pakistan during Murree peace process. When they met One to One. Just after the meeting, NDS leaked the news of Mullah omar death.

It is better to research the complete context before making absurd assumptions.

 

[Albatross]

You need to revise your history.

It was not just US, who supported and created Mujahideen against Soviets..You were there too!

And you are to blame for creation of Taliban..for they were created in Pakistan by Pakistan in your Madarssas in your tribal region..that why they are called Taliban (Students). And this was long after Soviets were had left Afghanistan.

In your bid to seize power in Afghanistan..you made a deal with devil..you overlooked their barbaric practices, you overlooked their links with worlds most notorious terrorist organisations.

But the time had come to pay the piper and you had run hefty bill. Their actions led to world declaring a war in your neighborhood...and their Pakistani counterpart were born, whose sole purpose was to bring Sharia to Pakistan..like the one you helped bring Afghanistan.

But even almost entire world fighting against Taliban, your deep love for Afghan Taliban did not cease. They continued to be nurtured by you and kept up their attacks against Afghanistan.

So why are you so surprised, if Afghanistan does not act against TTP.

You have a lot of Afghan blood on your hands, you will also have to bleed a little to clean them.

You are proving yourself to be more ignorant and brainwashed than I earlier estimated but anyways we are here to educate lost souls like you.

Following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, the Taliban emerged as a resistance movement aiming to eject the Soviet troops from Afghanistan. With the United States and Pakistan providing considerable financial and military support, the Afghan Mujahideen were able to inflict heavy losses on the Soviet troops
The Taliban was one of the Mujahideen factions that formed during the Soviet occupation and the internal fighting in Afghanistan. The Taliban emerged as a powerful movement in late 1994 when Pakistan chose the Taliban to guard a convoy trying to open a trade route from Pakistan to Central Asia.

History of the Taliban

Here they are sitting with US president .



So we didn't create a new thing called Taliban that group existed since 79 atleast and prospered under guidance of US and with US money and yes ofcourse Pakistan was involved and we were not involved with Talibs only we also trained other Afghanis as well and we take pride in that we help break USSR a monster of that time.

But saying Pakistan created Taliban is totally wrong whatever was done it was done on the behest and with support of US so why not blame her first before taking our name.

Because had there been no US money and weapons nothing would have happened so as I said if we number the culprits on top of list should be US followed by India( As she has no border with Afghanistan and is there and was there just to create nuisance and trouble for Pakistan) and Iran both of which got more active in 90's .

You tell me one thing what are india's interests in Afghanistan they hate muslims like hell in India and are planning about things like Ghar wapsi are they in Afghanistan to make them Hindu as well ?

 

[Atlanticore]

Ignore the idiot, they talk about mullah's having one sided debates, this guys are like an 8 track tape, regurgitating the same old stale rhetoric.

Sometime their Indian logic makes me sick. I have never expected anything logical from these people. If Satan was Anti-Pakistan then they might have been defending Satan for his activities too.