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As you can see from my profile that i am a new member therefore i can not post any links or sources however if you google the increase in growth rate in opium and poppy fields from 2001 you will find out that opium production is at all time high never in country history has the opium fields been cultivated and produced as they have been today . Wasn't one of main promises of the Nato/Us invasion was that "Making Afghanistan a better democratic country" ? does having more opium fields then tomatoes and potatoes is what its called to be a "Better country" ?

post your link withuot the extension. I want to see what your source is.

The internet is a place where you can find anything you are searching for. I can type "USA satan"and I will get it. I can search "Pakistan the terrorist state" and I can get it. but you and me both know that those are not right.

so - links for your allegations of "afg protecting US poppy fields"
 
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Pakistan will not change it's policy unless India and Iran are dropped.

In my opinion, Pakistan and Afghanistan should build a relationship without outside interference for 10 years. After the trust is built, Afghanistan can trade with whoever they like, without a threat for/from Pakistan. I see this as a way forward.

First it was India and now it's Iran :)

post your link withuot the extension. I want to see what your source is.

The internet is a place where you can find anything you are searching for. I can type "USA satan"and I will get it. I can search "Pakistan the terrorist state" and I can get it. but you and me both know that those are not right.

so - links for your allegations of "afg protecting US poppy fields"

It was an emotional rant with little substance ;)

Hi there.

As a Pashtun Afghan who has relatives all over Afghanistan. I know for a fact that the so called tribesmen do not support either Taliban or the Afghan government/NATO. Of course there are people who support one of the other depending on where their interests and allegiances lie. But the majority, They just want a government which can provide justice/security/jobs/ health etc as everywhere else. The Taliban/so called mujahideen are using Islam to get power and impose their own version of religion on majority Afghans who are not deobandi/Salafi but simple Hanfi sunnis with sufi/dervish put into the mix. The NATO/Afghan puppet government uses democracy for their goals. The Afghan people are caught between a rock and a hard place. Afghanistan is not ready for democracy not does democracy in the western sense suit Afghanistan.

You do realize that can't beg for peace, peace only comes through strength in statecraft especially in our neighbourhood.
Talis are nothing but a proxy of the GHQ who is projecting power through them. Talis will make peace once they are beaten on the battlefield, so put your faith in NUG and its National Security Forces. Why is Hizb-Islamic making peace now, because it knows it can't beat the NUG in the battlefield, the same will be true for the Talis soon.

I am also taken a back when you have equated AF NUG as puppet, can you tell me one good example of a country in our neighbourhood that is 100 percent sovereign? With the exception of the China, Russia, US all others are puppets in their own ways. Let us stop marking a government where millions have voted, often with their bloods to elect the the current leadership, this NUG with all its flaws defends your future and the future of kids.

It seems like the society in Afghanistan is very polarized. I wish the best and give dua for Afghanistan my friend.

But I don't think that Afghanistan has any interests in being anti-Pakistan. Obviously, we are in this mess together. We should work together.

I cannot see this happening with India or Iran being in the picture.

AF is not polarized, AF is not anti-Pak, AF is only for her interests. We are in this mess because GHQ is projecting power via Talis, the same Talis who will target Pakistan after they are done with AF.

It is time for the GHQ to wake up, AF is not returning back to the dark days, if Pakistan wants its genuine grievances addressed it conly be addressed via the AF Gov and not some extremist groups.
 
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Talis who will target Pakistan after they are done with AF.

You honestly think that a rag tag militia is stupid enough to take on one of the most powerful countries in the world?:lol:

Didnt you see what happened to TTP in waziristan? Would be the most stupid move of all time if they try to take on us. Pakistan isn't Pakistan for nothing my friend . We were just being called mafia by american congress and they think we treat them as chumps. And you think a bunch of medieval people is going to take on a country that has United states worried?:)

It is not polarised as such because as I mentioned before Afghan want the same things all other muslims/humans in the region want. In Afghanistan's case it has been through a 35 year period of war/instability which means things are not as straight forward as everywhere else where there has been relative peace. Thanks for the duas, same goes your country.

Afghan and Pakistani people are very close to each other, I would say to Pashtuns of Afghanistan, Pakistanis are the closest people because of the Pashtun connection and also religious and cultural factors so of course we are in it together and hopefully our governments can implement the will of our people.

As a Pakistani Pashtun I honestly wish best of luck to afghans for developing their own country . You guys come to peshawer for health , jobs and live and then say bad things about us. Afghan patients come in thousands to peshawer and get treated as locals. As to implementing the will of people KPK is now the second most developed province in Pakistan after punjab thanks to a great 3 years by PTI led government. Compare that to any of your neighbouring pashtun province and you will get your answer why despite having the same ethnicity you guys are so backward. Tribal mentality , prone to violence , not willing to change ,false ghairat in the so called 5000 year old history , corrupt to the core ,jailing women for loving man , bacha bazi and what not. Pashtuns on our side voted for the right people and are now reaping the rewards. And whom do you guys voted? Warlords and people that participated in destroying kabul . I personally met alot of afghan pashtuns and they resent us when they see all the development in KPK for pashtuns and then think about their own place. Nobody else is to blame but yourself.
 
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But they did, killing thousands of your countrymen including women, children and others. You are underestimating these monkeys.

And look what happened to them then .:) . Pakistan is one of the few countries not only to overcome an insurgency but absolutely demolish it . Karachi to Shawal is under Pakistan army's control . Anyone that challenges Pakistan will be dismantled into oblivion like TTP was . This is what successful demolishing of an insurgency does to a country :

Pakistan

- Foreign reserves touching all time high
- Economy predicted at 5 % growth
- Karachi best performing stock exchange in Asia
- Manufacturing increasing
- Pakistan in MSCI emerging index now
- FDI increasing by 20 %
- Poverty decreasing
- Tax collecting touching record levels
 
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As a Pakistani Pashtun I honestly wish best of luck to afghans for developing their own country . You guys come to peshawer for health , jobs and live and then say bad things about us. Afghan patients come in thousands to peshawer and get treated as locals.

Thanks for your kind wishes, nothing will make me happier than seeing my Pashtun bros in Pakistan prosper.

Just to clarify, we are eternally thankful the the people of Pakistan and the government for their hospitality. Having said that it does not mean we can't express our opinion freely, be it pro or anti Pakistani. Just like Pakistanis have the right take American aid and then voice their opinion against the drone attacks. Does it make Pakistanis bad or namak haram to protest against drone attacks while taking American aid? Can American do whatever it pleases against Pakistan because they gave aid or there are Pakistanis working in USA? Do you see my logic?

There is proverb in Pashto "kha weka aw pe seend ke wachawa", meaning, when you do good expect nothing in return. Do it for the sake of Allah (swt) and don't expect anything in return, otherwise you are only doing it so you can ask for a favour later. Ofcourse it is human nature to expect something in return as we all do, only God gives without expecting anything in return. We do "gila", as "gila" is only done from those you consider your own and not outsiders. Majority Afghans don't hate Pakistanis or Pakistan. Some might hate Pakistani government or your elites specifically the ISI, because they see Pakistani government's interference in our internal affairs and supporting proxy groups as the reason for the instability in our country. Whether this stance is justified or not is another matter.

Another group which might hate Pakistan is some Pashtun Afghan nationalists who hate the fact that Pashtuns are not unified in one country under one banner. They see the creation of Pakistan as a colonial design to weaken the Pashtun nation because the Pashtuns fought three wars against the British (Anglo-Afghan war) and did not submit to the British Empire. They see the Durand Line as a revenge by the British for their resistance against the Brits and its a slap in their face. They did the same with the FATA tribes who the Brits laballed as Barbarians and put FCR law on them. Now you might say that it was the Emir of Afghanistan who signed the Durand Treaty, well that's correct but Did the Emir hold a Jirga and ask for the opinion of Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan at the time? The answer is No. As a Pashtun you should know that any decision of this scale without a Jirga is not acceptable in Pashtun society. The Emir did what he thought was in his best interests at the time. The Pashtuns of Pakistan were not sold to the British, they are not a commodity which can be bought and sold. Pashtuns are fiercely independent and I am sure most people never even heard of Durand Line till much later on because Pashtuns are mostly rural and don't accept central authority.
Some of these Pashtun Afghan nationalists are sincere in their intentions and some of them just use the Durand Line and anti Pakistan rhetoric for their personal interests like ANP walas.

Some hate and blame Pakistan because it is an easy way out. They rather blame the bogeyman Pakistan then look at their own problems. The same can be said about many people in pakistan who always blame India or the Jews for their troubles. This victim mentality unfortunately exists in our region as a whole. Others might hate pakistan for a number of reasons such as some Tajiks who resent pakistani support for Taliban whom they see as Pashtun nationalists. The list goes on and on.

As to implementing the will of people KPK is now the second most developed province in Pakistan after punjab thanks to a great 3 years by PTI led government. Compare that to any of your neighbouring pashtun province and you will get your answer why despite having the same ethnicity you guys are so backward. Tribal mentality , prone to violence , not willing to change ,false ghairat in the so called 5000 year old history , corrupt to the core ,jailing women for loving man , bacha bazi and what not. Pashtuns on our side voted for the right people and are now reaping the rewards. And whom do you guys voted? Warlords and people that participated in destroying kabul . I personally met alot of afghan pashtuns and they resent us when they see all the development in KPK for pashtuns and then think about their own place. Nobody else is to blame but yourself.

The things you mention about social ills which exist in Afghanistan are indeed tragic and hopefully things will change with peace and the course of time. These problems are not unique to Afghanistan but our region as a whole. They might be more exaggerated in Afghanistan because of continuous wars which has taken a toll on people. I have been all over KPK and Balochistan and have first hand experience of what takes place there. There are some problems which are unique to Pashtuns but many are not, you will see the same or similar things happen all over Pakistan or the wider region.

Well, i am glad you guys are happy with your government and the work PTI has done, more power to you. I don't know what kind of Pashtuns you have met so I can't speak for you but you can find good and bad people everywhere. Personally I have met and worked with plenty of Pashtuns from KPK and we are the closest people to each other and want the best for each other.
 
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But they did, killing thousands of your countrymen including women, children and others. You are underestimating these monkeys.



Negotiation 101, you should read the book called "Getting to Yes".

Hekmatyar has a history of rejecting peace deals and fighting opposing groups/factions. His rejection shouldn't be taken lightly, especially from a government in such a precarious security situation.
 
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