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Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Kashmir: A Grand Bargain?

India is set to support afghanistan once we leave, India will never let that happen J&K will remain apart of it like Pakistani kashmir will remain with you, what happens if they abandon you ?

Who are "we". You're obviously indian and dont know about the situation in Afghanistan and Kashmir well. You are just repeating what other of your fellow indians want to hear.

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^^^^^ Yes and when taliban ban your social lives will you be cheering, so what will you give india if india gives you kashmir >

Taliban are in Afghanistan. TTP is not the original Taliban it was just formed in 2007.

Once America leaves Afghanistan, we will do what we were doing pre-2001. Giving indian army headache in Indian Occupied Kashmir :)
 
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India is set to support afghanistan once we leave, India will never let that happen J&K will remain apart of it like Pakistani kashmir will remain with you, what happens if they abandon you ?

About China, quite interesting you brought China up. India has two territorial disputes with China.

China wants South Tibet back. :azn:

NATO cannot stay in Afghanistan forever.

Pakistan is Afghanistan's neighbor. Pakistan already has the upper hand. China too is Afghanistan's neighbor. India doesn't stand a chance against Pakistan when it comes to Afghanistan.

Pakistan uniting with Afghanistan has already been with intellectuals of Pakistan for a long time. We are just waiting for the war to end in Afghanistan.
 
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The article makes sense, just do cost benefit analysis for Pakistan - the cost of keeping the kashmir issue alive v.s the benefits&problems.

Better to settle it for Pakistan, the real problem is natural resources originating from Kashmir, which can be debatable to settle.

Even the very few hardcore Kashmiris does not support armed militancy, as it became a business there.
 
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Once America leaves Afghanistan, we will do what we were doing pre-2001. Giving indian army headache in Indian Occupied Kashmir :)
you do that, you just undo all the good that is done to improve relationship. we will be back at square one.
Afgan is not your integral part, if you want a stable neighbour hood, you need a stable, self sustatining Afgan, it will be wise for your government to help the Afgans build their nations rather than trying to impose your will over them.

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About China, quite interesting you brought China up. India has two territorial disputes with China.

China wants South Tibet back. :azn:

NATO cannot stay in Afghanistan forever.

Pakistan is Afghanistan's neighbor. Pakistan already has the upper hand. China too is Afghanistan's neighbor. India doesn't stand a chance against Pakistan when it comes to Afghanistan.

Pakistan uniting with Afghanistan has already been with intellectuals of Pakistan for a long time. We are just waiting for the war to end in Afghanistan.
it is said the Afgans never submit to a forign rule and its also said that no one can stand against their vengence, do not try to occupy them rather, teach them to become a civilized, self-sustaining neighbour hood.
 
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Pakistan uniting with Afghanistan has already been with intellectuals of Pakistan for a long time. We are just waiting for the war to end in Afghanistan.
How come your intellecuals deciding on our behalf? Bear in mind that our Pashtuns are having an eye on your parts of country, nobody is up for a so called unity in our part.
 
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I think this exact article was debated some time back. Bottom line, any deal proposed by the Americans is already suspect.

India will be booted from Afghanistan once NATO leaves. We don't need to give up Kashmir to any so-called bargain.
 
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India will be booted from Afghanistan once NATO leaves. We don't need to give up Kashmir to any so-called bargain.

Delusions of grandeur.

If the 'claimed' 35 K dead Pakistanis cant bring back people to reality, I wonder what will. But then a Pakistaan not in touch with reality is no cause for concern and I aint complaining .
 
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We don't need to give up Kashmir to any so-called bargain.

If Kashmir issue is solved then that will be good for Afghanistan as we MIGHT see a significant reduction in Pakistan/India rivalry in Afghanistan.
 
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I think this exact article was debated some time back. Bottom line, any deal proposed by the Americans is already suspect.

India will be booted from Afghanistan once NATO leaves. We don't need to give up Kashmir to any so-called bargain.

NATO will never leave Afganistan without ensuring no attack originating from the region on US soil. So its just a fantasy.

And regarding US economy & public thinking, one more terror attack at US will change everything..
 
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Delusions of grandeur.

If the 'claimed' 35 K dead Pakistanis cant bring back people to reality, I wonder what will. But then a Pakistaan not in touch with reality is no cause for concern and I aint complaining .

No point in guessing. Let's just wait and see what happens.

If Kashmir issue is solved then that will be good for Afghanistan as we MIGHT see a significant reduction in Pakistan/India rivalry in Afghanistan.

Regardless of Kashmir, the big game between India, China, Russia and the West will be about control of the CARs and India needs Afghanistan to get to the CARs. NATO wants India in Afghanistan; China and Pakistan do not.
 
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Regardless of Kashmir, the big game between India, China, Russia and the West will be about control of the CARs and India needs Afghanistan to get to the CARs. NATO wants India in Afghanistan; China and Pakistan do not.

But the thing is, if there is insecurity and lack of governance in Afghanistan, i am sure non of you guys will get what you want. So, instead, all parties need to work for betterment of situation over there.
 
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I think Pakistan should continue to provide Moral supports to separatist in Kashmir, if they backed now, they will be called Cowards by the Muslim Ummah.
 
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I think Pakistan should continue to provide Moral supports to separatist in Kashmir, if they backed now, they will be called Cowards by the Muslim Ummah.
I am not so sure that Kashmir is a hot topic for muslim ummah.
 
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About China, quite interesting you brought China up. India has two territorial disputes with China.

China wants South Tibet back. :azn:

NATO cannot stay in Afghanistan forever.

Pakistan is Afghanistan's neighbor. Pakistan already has the upper hand. China too is Afghanistan's neighbor. India doesn't stand a chance against Pakistan when it comes to Afghanistan.

Pakistan uniting with Afghanistan has already been with intellectuals of Pakistan for a long time. We are just waiting for the war to end in Afghanistan.

Ok so why dont pakista with great help of mighty China boot out NATO from Afghanistan & form a coalition govt. there??
Why are you waiting to NATA to go... Thundering clouds??? ....

Never rains... warrior.:azn:
 
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