Afghanistan hikes up entry tax on Pakistani cargo trucks by 100pc

[Finer]

Thank you for calling me names, shows the how grown ups argue and not resorting to cursing.
Ghani is not a PM, he is the president [ but then again one who curses, how would he know that ]

I clarified in advance why i didn't mean it. Just empathizing the point to surmise the idiotic behaviors of Afghan PM and Afghanistan as whole.

 

[Khan_21]

What are yu talking abut? Have you seen the vision and speeches of Ghani, the guy can lecture your leadership and the region on economic integration. Stop teaching us about integration, we are all for it but talks of integration are meaningless when your proxies are being sent across the border.

We are not idiots.

Ghani is not a fit man to lead Afghanistan . If he can lecture us and the region on vision and economic integration then why is his own county's economic growth been 1 % for 2 years ? What are the reforms that he has brought to the country that have proven to be game changing ? None i suppose . Or maybe name one Index where Afghanistan has improved because of Ghani's leadership qualities . Speeches don't make you a great leader . Ghani is a very unpopular person in Afghanistan right now because nothing has changed .

China must get involved : It is in your own interest, you will ask why below is a brief description.

I don't know how involved you are with chinese diplomacy, but the Chinese diplomat recognize this double talk by Pakistanis and have been privately pushing Pakistan to stop throwing these militants to Afghanistan, but this push by China must get more overt because if Afghanistan gets destabilized thanks to Pakistani proxies, guess what anti chinese militants will find a refuge in Afghanistan and target China, so it is in your interest to push, prod and force Pakistan to change course because in their intellect they don't understand the bigger picture.

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14 Countries are in favour of recognising masood azhar as global terrorist but China Blocked the move in United nations What chance does Afghanistan have to make the chinese listen to their demands vis -a- vis Pakistan ?

Finally a sane post, but sadly there seems to be a minority of you in PDF or our part of the region.

Afghans may have a lot of faults but the outreach by Ghani towards Pakistan was geniune alas Pakistan didn't reciprocate. If Pakistan could not d business with Ghani then I say Pakistan doesn't want a deal but will only do business when the Afghans win the war [ the current Burka offensive ] on the battlefield alas with many innocent losing their lives.

Educate your people , media and government about KPK and durand line . Tell them these are not your lands . The day they stop saying things like Our land is till attock GHQ will stop its proxies .

 

[A-Team]

The problem is India. Afghanistan would rather listen to India than Pakistan, even if it means poising itself to the death. Why? Because Afghanistan is historically known to be racist towards non-Afghan breeds, and to the event, they even opposed the creation of Pakistan in 1947. Not only that, the regions in Pakistan dominated by their own race chose Pakistan over Afghanistan during the partition. Afghanistan couldn't handle it, and ever since then, Afghanistan has been trying to sabotage Pakistan. Even in 60s they failed against Pakistan which at the time Ayub Khan was leader who happened to be their race but sent clear message to Afghanistan.

When the hatred goes into the deep enough, no amount of logical reasoning can convince otherwise. It is inevitable just as KSA and Iran are drawn to destroy each other for sectarian war thus in the process killing themselves.

I mean no idiot nation would want to jeopardize its future for the sake of Indian market which is the result of inflation akin to bad receipt for the economy of Afghanistan as whole. Not to mention, biting the hand that provides the opportunity for the expansion of trades including the possibility of global following by the support from Central Asia, Turkey, Iran, Russia and You aka China.

But Afghanistan is unique [height of stupidity]. I am beginning to understand why Afghanistan as nation failed miserably.



Cut to the point. Afghanistan wants India on Afghanistan-Pakistan transit and CPEC, hence the whole drama. Your own government made it official issue about India being left out.

Stop playing with the words. Even China knows that. Pakistan and China are not going to accept India no matter what. Afghanistan has bright future with China and Pakistan together. With China and Pakistan, that means no India.

You see that is a poor logic, we are a sovereign country and will have relationship with anyone we want. Who are you to ask? Look how does this sound why is Pakistan having a relationship with China? This coming from an Afghan sounds weird, no?

Have you asked why Iran is friends with India? Don't be naive even China is having economic relationship with India.
If you are worried that India is using Afghan soil, then let us deal with that and we will ask China to verify our actions.

Don't be naive.

Ghani is not a fit man to lead Afghanistan . If he can lecture us and the region on vision and economic integration then why is his own county's economic growth been 1 % for 2 years ? What are the reforms that he has brought to the country that have proven to be game changing ? None i suppose . Or maybe name one Index where Afghanistan has improved because of Ghani's leadership qualities . Speeches don't make you a great leader . Ghani is a very unpopular person in Afghanistan right now because nothing has changed .




14 Countries are in favour of recognising masood azhar as global terrorist but China Blocked the move in United nations What chance does Afghanistan have to make the chinese listen to their demands vis -a- vis Pakistan ?



Educate your people , media and government about KPK and durand line . Tell them these are not your lands . The day they stop saying things like Our land is till attock GHQ will stop its proxies .

I see lot of rhetoric in this post

 

[Finer]

You see that is a poor logic, we are a sovereign country and will have relationship with anyone we want. Who are you to ask? Look how does this sound why is Pakistan having a relationship with China? This coming from an Afghan sounds weird, no?

Have you asked why Iran is friends with India? Don't be naive even China is having economic relationship with India.
If you are worried that India is using Afghan soil, then let us deal with that and we will ask China to verify our actions.

Don't be naive.

Iran is also friend with Pakistan. But Iran is not stupid enough to risk its future for the sake of Indian market to flood their own markets into the drain.

I am glad Pakistan is getting involved in the sad affair of Afghanistan. Basically, you are asking to be thrown into the deep ocean.

China and Pakistan have already made it clear that they don't want India on their CPEC. In fact, CPEC is threat to Chabbahr Port and vice versa. No sane mind can be diplomatic when it comes to the competitive markets.

If you want India, then you are out. If you want in, you have to play to the gallery [China+Pakistan].

As for don't be naive;

Your intel agency confessed supporting Indians-funded terrorist outfit aka TTP which claimed the lives of more than 50,000 people including children, women, elder and all kind of defenseless people. In fact, Ajit Doval has personally confessed that in the public domain.

Now you tell me if Pakistan intention to eradicate Indian-funded terrorism is legit or not.

 

[A-Team]

Iran is also friend with Pakistan. But Iran is not stupid enough to risk its future for the sake of Indian market to flood their own markets into the drain.

I am glad Pakistan is getting involved in the sad affair of Afghanistan. Basically, you are asking to be thrown into the deep ocean.

China and Pakistan have already made it clear that they don't want India on their CPEC. In fact, CPEC is threat to Chabbahr Port and vice versa. No sane mind can be diplomatic when it comes to the competitive markets.

If you want India, then you are out. If you want in, you have to play to the gallery [China+Pakistan].

As for don't be naive;

Your intel agency confessed supporting Indians-funded terrorist outfit aka TTP which claimed the lives of more than 50,000 people including children, women, elder and all kind of defenseless people. In fact, Ajit Doval has personally confessed that in the public domain.

Now you tell me if Pakistan intention to eradicate Indian-funded terrorism is legit or not.

Ok i dont like this tu tu mein mein game but here is quick one for you and then we are done dicussing this because you have made your mind up vis-a-vis Afghanistan

First you say Iran is a friend, then you say Chabahar is a threat to CPEC so does that make Iran a friend or foe? You see there are no friends or foes, there is only interests. We couldn't care less for India, if India is helping us now we will take it, if China wants to help we will take that too, even if its Israel we will do the same, It is you Pakistan, who is putting all her eggs in Chinese basket, while China does business with India

/Peace out.

 

[Finer]

Ok i dont like this tu tu mein mein game but here is quick one for you and then we are done dicussing this because you have made your mind up vis-a-vis Afghanistan

First you say Iran is a friend, then you say Chabahar is a threat to CPEC so does that make Iran a friend or foe? You see there are no friends or foes, there is only interests. We couldn't care less for India, if India is helping us now we will take it, if China wants to help we will take that too, even if its Israel we will do the same, It is you Pakistan, who is putting all her eggs in Chinese basket, while China does business with India

/Peace out.

So i take it you don't know combination of factors that is leading Pakistan-China versus India right now? Not worth going into details. You seem to have made up your mind. Anyways, peace to you too.

ADDED!!!

Just because Iran is very close with India, that doesn't mean Iran is going to put its neck on the line. Afghanistan policy is intended to self-destruct in the servitude of India. I have explained the examples above; in fact several examples so far.

What you are suggesting is have the cake and eat it too, and that's not how it works, but maybe in Bollywood world. In the competitive market, only one market succeeds and that's how it works. Quite frankly, you and your government have no clue how the economy works since your government is eager to flood your own market into the drains to accommodate Indian markets which hardly result fruitful for the economy of Afghanistan, is it? Think about it. Use your brain. Try to analyze. Pro and con is very useful tactics.

 

[Khan_21]

I see lot of rhetoric in this post

So are Afghans ready to change mentaly about their feelings for KP , FATA and Balochistan ? Pashtunistan was the biggest issue before 70 's. GHQ won't be too kind if the snake has fangs again so they are happy as long as you are unstable .

 

[A-Team]

So are Afghans ready to change mentaly about their feelings for KP , FATA and Balochistan ? Pashtunistan was the biggest issue before 70 's. GHQ won't be too kind if the snake has fangs again so they are happy as long as you are unstable .

As a pakhtoon you should do some soul searching, don't be to brainwashed by Pak studies, it is ok back your country but it's naive to blindly believe in a one sided history. It is time that you start some of the history of Pakhtoons pre 1947 as it doesn't start in 1947.
Also you need to read Cross Swords by Shuja Nawaz or Ghost Wars by Steve Coll, as the issues has not always been Pashtunistan.

 

[Acknowledge]

It is you Pakistan, who is putting all her eggs in Chinese basket, while China does business with India

Pakistanis have a habbit of being "more loyal to the King than the King himself".

They do it with the Arabs. More Muslim and thekedars of Muslims than the originators - Arabs.
(Burning their own streets in the name of Palestinians )

Now with the Chinese.

The Chinese themselves are trying to raise trade with India and investing big in India (multiple billions of dollars! even when we give no special privilege to Chinese investors!) while the Pakistanis go around trying to tell the Afghans not to trade with India because China and Pakistan don't want India in the trade game

 

[A-Team]

Pakistanis have a habbit of being "more loyal to the King than the King himself".

They do it with the Arabs. More Muslim and thekedars of Muslims than the originators - Arabs.
(Burning their own streets in the name of Palestinians )

Now with the Chinese.

The Chinese themselves are trying to raise trade with India and investing big in India (multiple billions of dollars!) while the Pakistanis go around trying to tell the Afghans not to trade with India because China and Pakistan don't want India in the trade game

Naive logic by Pakistan. China does business with US and India worth billions and here you are Pak members telling us on behalf of China not to deal with India or anyone else.

Well who on earth gives you the right to tell us with who we should do commerce or not.
We will do come commercie with Israel, India, Iran, China, Pakistan herself and even Swaziland if it is in our interest
Besides when Pakistani mode swings occure, they block our transit of goods so of course we have to find alternative routes and also increase the prices of goods transiting via Afghanistan, its all business nothing personal.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Well done Afghanistan. Let's work together to keep Pakistan in check. Indo-Afghan bha-bhai

Babur & Ghaznavi were also afghan in case if you don't know

 

[Acknowledge]

Babur & Ghaznavi were also afghan in case if you don't know

And Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan might also be Afghan one day

 

[Reichsmarschall]

And Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan might also be Afghan one day

he is buried in afghanistan

 

[Acknowledge]

Besides when Pakistani mode swings occure, they block our transit of goods so of course we have to find alternative routes and also increase the prices of goods transiting via Afghanistan, its all business nothing personal.

It is now inevitable that this will happen.
I presume that Pakistan military will support Taliban's even more now to destabilize Afghan to pre-empt it.

That a port very close to Afghanistan is being built (Chahbahar) and Iran has committed to India that it will provide rail connectivity from there straight to the Afghan border (road connectivity already exists) means that in about 4-5 years, Pakistan's till-now absolute strangle hold over Afghanistan will be dealt a big blow.

 

[Khan_21]

As a pakhtoon you should do some soul searching, don't be to brainwashed by Pak studies, it is ok back your country but it's naive to blindly believe in a one sided history. It is time that you start some of the history of Pakhtoons pre 1947 as it doesn't start in 1947.
Also you need to read Cross Swords by Shuja Nawaz or Ghost Wars by Steve Coll, as the issues has not always been Pashtunistan.

Pre - 47 KPK , FATA or balochistan were never afghan lands or under any afghan king. If you want to go back 500 years to prove that these lands were ruled by Afghan kings then you have bigger problems .

Pakistan wasn't accepted as a country in 47 and afg tried its level best to split it . We were vulnerable as a young nation . All throughout 60s and 70s there were lots of instigations from your side. We even had skirmishes over this issue. By 70's Bhutto had enough and decided to control Afghanistan to its own liking. Policy of seeing Afg as a fifth province or strategic depth continues because of the bad decisions taken by afghan rulers pre 70 vis-a-vis Pakistan. Pakistan doesn't believe in your government now and hence Project Taliban was created. So now Afghan people have to bear the brunt of bad decisions taken by your government in past . I hope Afghans have a u turn in their mentality for Pakistan so that GHQ can stop whatever it is doing .

As for the books I will read them up.