Afghanistan: Fleeing the Taliban into Pakistan and leaving dreams behind

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The sad thing is that united states and west bomb and destroyed them, Indian terrorists massacred and devastated them, they flooded pakistan and eventually will be used by Indian raw terrorists against Pakistan.

Pakistan with a huge heart felt sad and hugged them again but I hope Afghans remember Pakistan's clean heart this time. This is what an elder brother is like.

I hope they do but I wouldn't count on it.

 

[Big_bud]

Listened to DG ISPR conference a few days ago. There are zero Afghan refugees being permitted in! I think the only ones allowed to be returned might be those who have valid documents. Other than that consider it propaganda. DG ISPR said it in a very clear manner. 0 refugees are being taken in.

 

[PradoTLC]

If so, why have they not acted upon them yet?

Asking for neutral source is nothing wrong. Even Pakistanis ask that many times. I am not sure what got you all riled up. Keep your calm sir.

in general india has many true terrorist

 

[magra]

in general india has many true terrorist

Empty statement backed with hot air

 

[PradoTLC]

Empty statement backed with hot air

True statement backed with hard facts. Remember i am not a infidel.

RSS is a designated terror organisation with Modi as it's head and millions of followers who mass murder muslims, destroy mosques, practice discrimination, force conversion, mob lyniching, day to day harassment etc

since you are poorly educated and brain washed let me educated you,


Here is a start...


The Christian community in India is still suffering from the events of 2008 when Hindu extremists carried out savage and unprovoked attacks on Christian villages in Orissa, leaving thousands of refugees.  4,640 houses, 252 churches and 13 educational institutions were destroyed. Although the All India Christian Council estimates 70 were killed in the violence, many are still missing and the figure may be as many as 500. 54,000 were made homeless during the riots, and even in 2010 many were still living in displacement camps.The work of the Catholic Church in India makes no distinction between castes and is therefore often seen to be a danger to the existing Indian social structure. This year, India has not witnessed attacks against the Christian community on the scale of those that took place in 2008, although a high number of isolated incidents of violence continued to afflict the community.The Indian population, estimated at 1100.00 million, is multiethnic. Over 8% are indigenous tribal peoples, with well over 600 different tribes. The overwhelming majority (over 80%) of the population are Hindus, followed by Muslims (around 13%), and Christians, (2.4%).

 

[magra]

True statement backed with hard facts. Remember i am not a infidel.

RSS is a designated terror organisation with Modi as it's head and millions of followers who mass murder muslims, destroy mosques, practice discrimination, force conversion, mob lyniching, day to day harassment etc

Tell me one nation who has designated RSS as a terror organization? Not even Pakistan. So stop spouting incorrect statements which will only embarass you further.

The Christian community in India is still suffering from the events of 2008 when Hindu extremists carried out savage and unprovoked attacks on Christian villages in Orissa, leaving thousands of refugees.  4,640 houses, 252 churches and 13 educational institutions were destroyed. Although the All India Christian Council estimates 70 were killed in the violence, many are still missing and the figure may be as many as 500. 54,000 were made homeless during the riots, and even in 2010 many were still living in displacement camps.The work of the Catholic Church in India makes no distinction between castes and is therefore often seen to be a danger to the existing Indian social structure. This year, India has not witnessed attacks against the Christian community on the scale of those that took place in 2008, although a high number of isolated incidents of violence continued to afflict the community.The Indian population, estimated at 1100.00 million, is multiethnic. Over 8% are indigenous tribal peoples, with well over 600 different tribes. The overwhelming majority (over 80%) of the population are Hindus, followed by Muslims (around 13%), and Christians, (2.4%).

In a large nation as India, some religious tensions do happen infrequently, as is the case in Pakistan too. You are making a mountain of a certain event in 2008. And BJP was not even in power at that time.

 

[ziaulislam]

Its your speculation. From day 1, India wanted nothing more than to progress peacefully.
You initiated 1965 war trying to take Kashmir from us.
In 1971, your brutality in East Pak forced us to intervene and help BD people.
Again, you initiated 1999 Kargil conflict.

Tell me one war which India initiated since independence.

And the way you are defending yourself by creating and helping Taliban will only bring ISIS next to your doorstep. And you know better than to bring a devil next door. Sooner or later, devil will invade and consume your house.

What makes india not intervenue again against the brutality pakistan is doing in KPK, balochistan sindh and bolachistan and kashmir

Pakistanis are brutal people from day1 hence india has the right to attack pakistan like it did for no reason in 1971 (apart from pakistani brutality)

 

[ziaulislam]

It was not just Pakistani brutality but also the huge number of East Pakistani refugees pouring in India which made it necessary that we intervene.
India shares no borders with KPK and Balochistan. Any supposed Pak atrocity in Sindh or Kashmir has not brought a lot of refugees, so there is no great need for India to intervene.

Yes..but dont pretend india didnt want war

You guys are always ready and so are we..
The only thing stopped you guys from liberating balochistan sindh punjab is nuclear and conventional parity

The magic number is 10x otherwise you guys cant do shit

 

[Sayfullah]

Would Imran Khan revisit his statement of 'Afghans breaking shackles of slavery' ?
Afghan people are running away from Afghanistan in fear of being put under slavery now.

Where were you when usa and nato were massacring civilians for the past 20 years in Afghanistan?

 

[MuhammedAli]

If the refugees are those who sold Afghanstan to Amerians and her allies ... Then these people should to exported to America n her allies asap or hanged asap. They will be bbitter anti Pakistan and will aid ttp and other Deobandi terrorist grops against Pakistan as revenge for their misery.

 

[magra]

Yes..but dont pretend india didnt want war

You guys are always ready and so are we..
The only thing stopped you guys from liberating balochistan sindh punjab is nuclear and conventional parity

The magic number is 10x otherwise you guys cant do shit

We do not war unnecessary war as we want to grow without bloodshed as much as possible.

There is no conventional parity. Regarding nuclear, there is no such thing as parity - Even 10 bombs are enough to play havoc. After that having a stockpile is just for pride.

We will not attack you first. But if you attack, we will retaliate more than we get.

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Where were you when usa and nato were massacring civilians for the past 20 years in Afghanistan?

There have been instances of abuse and human rights violations by NATO, yes. But those were exceptions rather than the rule.

With Taliban, any leniency on women and liberal thinkers is an exception rather than the rule.

 

[Maula Jatt]

You will not believe me, and I will not believe you, so let's agree to disagree, but I have seen the plans and ideas of your state, and the ideological groups underpinning this.

They call for the total destruction of Pakistan and genocide and ethnic cleansing of its people, and for the systematic mass scale abuse of Pakistani women. Extremist groups with close links with the ruling ideology regularly auction off Pakistani girls and women, If they conquer us.

That's why not so religious people of Pakistan, it's christians, Sikh, Athiest population are against India

It's not a Hindu, Muslim thing as some might suggest (although it's part of it)

It's much deeper than that, it's our survival as a people group and if we want to maintain our lifestyle, culture

People may claim otherwise but I have interected with enough indians to realize hate is deep rooted for our nation - it's like we are the direct sons of satans or some thing

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

We do not war unnecessary war as we want to grow without bloodshed as much as possible.

There is no conventional parity. Regarding nuclear, there is no such thing as parity - Even 10 bombs are enough to play havoc. After that having a stockpile is just for pride.

We will not attack you first. But if you attack, we will retaliate more than we get.

There have been instances of abuse and human rights violations by NATO, yes. But those were exceptions rather than the rule.

With Taliban, any leniency on women and liberal thinkers is an exception rather than the rule.

Problem for india is that it is too weak, backward and powerless to take on Pakistan despite being more than 7x bigger than Pakistan........... ........IF india dared tried attacking Pakistan, it would cease to exist....................all indians can do is talk smack on the Internet..........NOTHING MORE.........keep taking but do NOTHING in real life.........

 

[Imad.Khan]

The onus of peace is on Pakistani military.
We have made ourselves abundantly clear that we do not want your territory and nor will give ours. If we had wanted, we could have wrenched Pak Kashmir when you were at your weakest after 1971 defeat. But we did not want to continue the conflict.

J&K merged with us through the legal act of assension by its ruler. Also, its primary leader and party at the time was in favor of India. So drop your victimhood act there.

Instead of crying propaganda, prove with neutral sources any claim I made is false.
And if mods take any action against me without explanation of what rule I broke, I would have to consider them as biased as well.
@waz @The Eagle @Kambojaric @Foxtrot Alpha @Irfan Baloch @krash @jaibi

The ruler of Junagarh did the same thing, but didn't you guys invade it? didn't you guys conduct a referendum there to prove to the world that the will of the people is to merge with India? Didn't you guys invade Goa because the people wanted to merge with India? Didn't you guys invade Hyderabad? So why won't you do a referendum in Kashmir? Because you know you will lose You guys are just hypocrites.

 

[magra]

That's why not so religious people of Pakistan, it's christians, Sikh, Athiest population are against India

It's not a Hindu, Muslim thing as some might suggest (although it's part of it)

It's much deeper than that, it's our survival as a people group and if we want to maintain our lifestyle, culture

People may claim otherwise but I have interected with enough indians to realize hate is deep rooted for our nation - it's like we are the direct sons of satans or some thing

Whatever hate is there, it is for Pak establishment as it initiated several wars and planned several terrorist attacks on India.
Indians, in general, do not hate common Pakistani citizens.
Any residual hate due to ignorance goes once they interact with Pakistanis face-to-face.

Both during my studies and work, I have met Pakistanis and I can say I had more common ground with them than the westerners (due to shared language and culture)

Problem for india is that it is too weak, backward and powerless to take on Pakistan despite being more than 7x bigger than Pakistan........... ........IF india dared tried attacking Pakistan, it would cease to exist....................all indians can do is talk smack on the Internet..........NOTHING MORE.........keep taking but do NOTHING in real life.........

There is one group of Pakistanis here which claim that Pakistan has a mortal threat from India. Other group (like yours) boasts of superior Pakistani strength and ridicules India of not having the power to tackle Pakistan.
You should decide among yourselves. In the meantime, we are surging ahead in our economic power, while you are having a loan-to-mouth existence.

The ruler of Junagarh did the same thing, but didn't you guys invade it? didn't you guys conduct a referendum there to prove to the world that the will of the people is to merge with India? Didn't you guys invade Goa because the people wanted to merge with India? Didn't you guys invade Hyderabad? So why won't you do a referendum in Kashmir? Because you know you will lose You guys are just hypocrites.

Answered this question several times regarding referendum in J&K.
Referendum was to be done in the entirety of J&K, and not just in the part India had.
For the referendum, UN had laid out certain steps to be followed in sequence.

Step 1- Pak removes all its regular and irregular forces from J&K
Step 2 - After Step 1 is done, India removes majority of forces and keeps only those necessary for law and order
Step 3 - Referendum under UN supervision

Pakistan never completed Step 1, so no referendum was possible.