Afghanistan: Fleeing the Taliban into Pakistan and leaving dreams behind

[magra]

Just before the 2003 Iraq invasion the American government asked the BJP government in India to send Indian army to help in the invasion. The Indian government got 20,000 Indian Army soldiers to be ready to join the Americans and allies. But ultimately protests in the Indian parliament by the Congress, the Communists and some Muslims forced the government to cancel the plan.

So Indian democracy saved us from acting against our principles.

 

[hussain0216]

The onus of peace is on Pakistani military.
We have made ourselves abundantly clear that we do not want your territory and nor will give ours. If we had wanted, we could have wrenched Pak Kashmir when you were at your weakest after 1971 defeat. But we did not want to continue the conflict.

J&K merged with us through the legal act of assension by its ruler. Also, its primary leader and party at the time was in favor of India. So drop your victimhood act there.

Instead of crying propaganda, prove with neutral sources any claim I made is false.
And if mods take any action against me without explanation of what rule I broke, I would have to consider them as biased as well.
@waz @The Eagle @Kambojaric @Foxtrot Alpha @Irfan Baloch @krash @jaibi

No one gives a toss

India chose to occupy a Muslim state during partition

This ended peace in South Asia

It is thus unacceptable to give any space to a enemy like India

 

[Rafi]

So Indian democracy saved us from acting against our principles.

India is our eternal enemy, as long as there is an India our women and children are not safe.

 

[magra]

You will not believe me, and I will not believe you, so let's agree to disagree, but I have seen the plans and ideas of your state, and the ideological groups underpinning this.

They call for the total destruction of Pakistan and genocide and ethnic cleansing of its people, and for the systematic mass scale abuse of Pakistani women. Extremist groups with close links with the ruling ideology regularly auction off Pakistani girls and women, If they conquer us.

Hot heads on both sides call for lot of gruesome acts. That does not mean the govt acts on the advice of each barking dog.

India is our eternal enemy, as long as there is an India our women and children are not safe.

I cant wake you from your sleep, as you are awake but pretending to sleep. No amount of facts will change your mind.

 

[Rafi]

Hot heads on both sides call for lot of gruesome acts. That does not mean the govt acts on the advice of each barking dog.

The current govt is part and parcel of this ideology, they are one and the same, the auctioneers are members and title holders in the BJP, what they say about indian citizens is already out their.

 

[Dalit]

Hot heads on both sides call for lot of gruesome acts. That does not mean the govt acts on the advice of each barking dog.

I cant wake you from your sleep, as you are awake but pretending to sleep. No amount of facts will change your mind.

Look at this filthy pajeet bark like a dog. Filthy animal. A BJP cronie.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

It's sad but Pakistan cannot afford to have a pro indi govt in Kabul, the day India tried to harm Pakistan through Afghanistan was the day, the previous regime was doomed.

Indians have been using afghans since pre partition days.Remember that fktard sarhadi Gandhi?

 

[El Sidd]

Tell me one instance when India sent its troops to topple any regime or leader.
Using economic means to pressurize hostile govts is a common and acceptable method adopted by many govts around the world.

There was nothing wrong to put pressure on Mohammed Mathahir using economic means. It was a temporary trade tactic which worked for us and the new leader in Malaysia brought the country back in our good books.

I said war machine aka economy.

When migration suddenly spikes 3 times, how can you claim it to be normal.

because unlike you, we share a border which saw closure owing to accumulation hence more numbers

You can search and give me at least one neutral source if there are plenty.

Read this on isis India still no source from the poster boy

Why fewer Indians have joined ISIS

Counter-terrorism and security experts need to be aware of inhibiting factors that protect the Indian society from the menace of transnational terrorism.

www.google.com

Indians and Central Asians Are the New Face of the Islamic State

Terrorists from India, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan were never at the forefront of global jihad before—now they are.

foreignpolicy.com

i hope you sue this alleged neutral source

 

[Kingdom come]

I said war machine aka economy.
because unlike you, we share a border which saw closure owing to accumulation hence more numbers

Indians and Central Asians Are the New Face of the Islamic State

Terrorists from India, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan were never at the forefront of global jihad before—now they are.

foreignpolicy.com

i hope you sue this alleged neutral source

From your article
differed from the Taliban’s. In ISKP’s eyes, the Taliban are in essence surrendering in their peace negotiations with the U.S. government. But the most interesting aspect of the attack was the roster of fighters involved—a multinational group that included Afghans, Indians, Tajiks, and Pakistanis.

While at first glance this seems unsurprising, the presence of Central Asians and Indians in transnational attacks is a relatively new phenomenon that reflects a shifting pattern in jihadism linked to the Islamic State

it still does not prove

reality is isis has more Indians than Pakistanis in her ranks

@magra

I would give you some links but don't want to get banned and I know you spend days here but still

Amount of isis fighters from different countries

 

[El Sidd]

From your article
differed from the Taliban’s. In ISKP’s eyes, the Taliban are in essence surrendering in their peace negotiations with the U.S. government. But the most interesting aspect of the attack was the roster of fighters involved—a multinational group that included Afghans, Indians, Tajiks, and Pakistanis.

While at first glance this seems unsurprising, the presence of Central Asians and Indians in transnational attacks is a relatively new phenomenon that reflects a shifting pattern in jihadism linked to the Islamic State

it still does not prove

reality is isis has more Indians than Pakistanis in her ranks

@magra

I would give you some links but don't want to get banned and I know you spend days here but still

yes it's an ongoing phenomenon.

 

[magra]

The current govt is part and parcel of this ideology, they are one and the same, the auctioneers are members and title holders in the BJP, what they say about indian citizens is already out their.

Making a lot of claims without proving what Indian govt has actually done.

 

[Kingdom come]

yes it's an ongoing phenomenon.

Amount of isis fighters by country

Military of the Islamic State - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Still no source for this

reality is isis has more Indians than Pakistanis in her ranks

@magra

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Bro,

A better way to deal with an argument is to prepare for it; take your time to gather your sources to counter one. If you feel that you need assistance in your work, you can tag another member of your choice to help you in the process. It helps to be constructive in our narrative.

WE take care of the trolls of-course.

I take your point and somewhat agree with you. However, my biggest concern is that if we do not immediately shut down anti-Pakistani lies and propaganda from our enemies, that it can potentially become accepted truths by repetition. Even some Pakistanis will start accepting it. Claims like Pakistan is an "Islamist nation" is used by our enemies EVEN though the evidence completely debunks that claim. We need to be more assertive and promote the Pakistani narrative. This is the next phase of the dispelling the propaganda and lies about Pakistan from our enemies.

 

[magra]

Indians and Central Asians Are the New Face of the Islamic State

Terrorists from India, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan were never at the forefront of global jihad before—now they are.

foreignpolicy.com

i hope you sue this alleged neutral source

Where does the article say that ISIS has more Indians than Pakistanis.
It only says that recently there has been an uptick of Indians joining ISIS - a sign of worry for Indian govt yes.

@magra what is your neutral source that says KSA supports terrorism and extremism?

Did I make any claim regarding KSA?

The language I showed is exactly because filth should be treated as filth nothing more. It's pointless to argue with a delusional retard like you and discussion going on for multiple pages. You and your family drinking cow-piss and eating cow dung, has nothing to do with my upbringing. It only shows your upbringing and how this kind of sickness is normalized in India. First, it was sutti, then breast tax, though we ruled over you and showed you decency but you lot are filth lovers. A pajeet talking about upbringing on pdf is kinda ironic when the same lot is constantly abusing Pakistanis in Indian defence forum and feeling proud.

Here you are leashed like a dog, that's why you have to reply with moderation. If today that leash was let loose, we would see similar abuses the likes of which we see on indian defence forums, on social media and everywhere.

Rape and abuse is your culture and you have the audacity to bring the "upbringing" card. Haha, nice joke, you are a go-mutra drinking Pajeet(btw why feel embarrassed, be proud of it, wear it like a medal). You can try baniyan gymnastics but it won't work here.




Now coming to the topic, democracy isn't the only form of government. They aren't bound to be democratic. The majority of the people of Afghanistan already gave them their vote of confidence, by showing 0 resistance against their take over.

Tell me Pajeet, Indian has been the biggest world democracy for over 70 + years, do you even stand equal to China? 300 million in multidimensional poverty, 50 Million in EXTREME poverty. Every filthy go-mutra drinking Pajeet, shitting on street, women getting raped every minute of every hour in your filthy country. TO HELL WITH YOUR DEMOCRACY, you can shove it up you pajeet's a**.

THEIR COUNTRY, THEIR RULE, THEIR IDEOLOGY. If you have any issue, go to them, say it to their face. stop wasting everyone's time here.

I choose not to respond to your slur-fest. Have instead reported you to the mods to do the clean up act.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Indians have been using afghans since pre partition days. Remember sarhadi gaandhi?