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You little rat you need to stop bragging killing 50. Afghans will smash you mushrik rats and your lollywood dirty army. Your are a fool to think you skinny army has killed killed 50 Afghan soldiers. Lol We are satisfied and feel cool about Chaman you jump up like a monkey. Your army is a liar and you are fool rats in believing them.

I'm not going to engage you in a serious discussion as only I will get a warning and will be banned.

It's party time here is your father husband holding a race for the mushroom daalkhor rats. Check your convert ancestors' buttocks in their grave as if you could trace a sign of bachabazi. You own us from being different to the rest of your dhamaal rat kind.


Please don't compare our army to your mercenary force sustained by the charity of your own occupiers, you're in a sad situation and I wouldn't wish it upon anybody, but to then talk about Pakistan and our armed forces with any notion of superiority on your part is laughable. Even with all the meat in your diet you can't claim any sovereignty.
 
? Afghanistan is multicultural, they just don't get along with each other because tribal mentality dominates unlike in Pakistan.

Afghanistan is multiculturalism where non-Pakhtoons are being oppressed to death and hence seeking refuge in Pakistan? That doesn't exactly scream multiculturalism at all.

Please don't compare our army to your mercenary force sustained by the charity of your own occupiers, you're in a sad situation and I wouldn't wish it upon anybody, but to then talk about Pakistan and our armed forces with any notion of superiority on your part is laughable. Even with all the meat in your diet you can't claim any sovereignty.

Ironically, it is coming from so-called bravado Afghan member that has no problem being servitude to India they once conquered. Coming from slave of India doesn't exactly scream confidence in terms of battle. ha!
 
@haviZsultan is person who always repeats himself in every post , his posts are of no value, worth and weight......He mentions Amir Abdur Rahman a lot, that he sold Lar Pashtuns to British. Thats not true , the tribes of Yaghistan were never under rule of Kabul to begin with.....and the areas of KP were wrested from Kabul by Sikhs long before 1893....In my opinion he did what was good for his kingdom , he already had hard time dealing with rebellious Pashtun tribes in his kingdom who were not contributing a single penny to his treasury and unruly tribes of Yaghistan would have added more to his miseries.....He gave shape and consistency to Afghanistan and centralized the government for the first time with the help of British arms and ammunition. Friendship with British helped him preventing his northern territories overran by much aggressive Russians.
 
@haviZsultan is person who always repeats himself in every post , his posts are of no value, worth and weight......He mentions Amir Abdur Rahman a lot, that he sold Lar Pashtuns to British. Thats not true , the tribes of Yaghistan were never under rule of Kabul to begin with.....and the areas of KP were wrested from Kabul by Sikhs long before 1893....In my opinion he did what was good for his kingdom , he already had hard time dealing with rebellious Pashtun tribes in his kingdom who were not contributing a single penny to his treasury and unruly tribes of Yaghistan would have added more to his miseries.....He gave shape and consistency to Afghanistan and centralized the government for the first time with the help of British arms and ammunition. Friendship with British helped him preventing his northern territories overran by much aggressive Russians.

So Rahman was a British lackey? An accusation which Afghans like to criticize Pakistan with? Now that's interesting.
 
So Rahman was a British lackey? An accusation which Afghans like to criticize Pakistan with? Now that's interesting.
He gained the throne with the help of British......and handed over the control of foreign policy of Afghanistan to British, thats why Afghans celebrate 1919 as year of independence when they got rid of British influence after third Anglo-Afghan war....from 1880 to 1919, Afghanistan was not truly independent and its was under thumb of British.....thats why some Afghans argue that treaties made in this period are invalid, but the thing is King Amanullah of independent Afghanistan also signed Durand line treaty. He signed it because he got zero support from the tribes of present-day FATA for which he had waged the war (Third Anglo-Afghan War). It was an eye-opener from him, the tribes of FATA could not be trusted as their random insurgencies are for their own local and petty reasons, and they could be swayed to the side promising them larger allowances and money
 
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@haviZsultan is person who always repeats himself in every post , his posts are of no value, worth and weight......He mentions Amir Abdur Rahman a lot, that he sold Lar Pashtuns to British. Thats not true , the tribes of Yaghistan were never under rule of Kabul to begin with.....and the areas of KP were wrested from Kabul by Sikhs long before 1893....In my opinion he did what was good for his kingdom , he already had hard time dealing with rebellious Pashtun tribes in his kingdom who were not contributing a single penny to his treasury and unruly tribes of Yaghistan would have added more to his miseries.....He gave shape and consistency to Afghanistan and centralized the government for the first time with the help of British arms and ammunition. Friendship with British helped him preventing his northern territories overran by much aggressive Russians.

Apparently he was ready to hand over Kandahar as well but British refused? Only true historic pashtun city.
 
It makes me really sad seeing the relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan increasingly resembling the Saudi-Iranian enmity. You two belong together. Don't let foreign countries ruin your friendship.

Words of wisdom. Nothing more to say.
 
@haviZsultan is person who always repeats himself in every post , his posts are of no value, worth and weight.....

Thats great coming from a person who abuses Pakistan day and night on another forum while being a completely different person here. I have seen your comments and they only amount to treason to your country, if you were from Pakista anyway. I have been told you are an Afghan and I know that a lot of posers are Afghans. They want to influence Pakistani pashtuns which will never happen.

He mentions Amir Abdur Rahman a lot, that he sold Lar Pashtuns to British.

You don't believe it but it was the partition of pashtuns in 1983. Now there are Pakistani Pashtuns and Afghan Pashtuns and nothing will change that. What also will not change that while Pakistani pashtuns were progressing the Afghans with their degenerative ways were declining with bacha bazi, drug abuse, homosexuality and then the Taliban.

The truth is a line, a border exists thank God that divides us from the Afghan namak harams who have never learnt to be grateful and are racists like you. Thank Allah for saving Pakistani pashtuns from ultimate decline. Pakistani pashtuns may have some problems but they are superior economically, culturally and militarily (20-30% Pashtuns in the military despite 16% population). No matter what you do, what you say will heal the rift created by Afghan rulers between pashtuns.

The only thing that can is the complete invasion and assimilation of Afghanistan by Pakistan and Pakistani pashtuns.

Thats not true , the tribes of Yaghistan were never under rule of Kabul to begin with.....

The tribes in the past used to rule themselves. But they were in the sphere of influence of Kabul. If you do not believe Abdur Rehman Khan what about the aggression agaainst Pakistani pashtuns of other monarchs.

Pakistani pashtuns were killed in the chaman aggression. Why did that ugly Afghan nation target Pakistani pashtuns when they believe in all that rubbish of Pashtunistan and loy Pashtunkhwa. Why did Daood Khan launch an invasion of Bajaur which our ghayur Pakistani pashtuns fought off?

Have some shame Luffy, the country you support has always been hostile to you and gives only lip service to Pashtun reunification having no love if Pakistani pashtuns die who those pesky Afghans have always thought of as dal khor traitors.

and the areas of KP were wrested from Kabul by Sikhs long before 1893....

Yet the Afghan Pashtuns dominated today by their Tajik and Hazara foes whom by the way the Afghans haven't given up like you want the Pakistani pashtuns to give up Punjabis Sindhis and Balochs, took refuge with the same sikhs and their british masters. Shah Shuja and Dost Muhammad Khan lived in Luidhiana and used their status as British vassals to launch invasions of Afghanistan. You and your Afghan people have always been British slaves. It was the Pakistani Pashtuns that actually fought the British.

In my opinion he did what was good for his kingdom , he already had hard time dealing with rebellious Pashtun tribes in his kingdom who were not contributing a single penny to his treasury and unruly tribes of Yaghistan would have added more to his miseries.....

That is your opinion. But Afghan arrogance and eagerness to preserve the north while sacrificing the south was shown by none other than Abdur Rehman Khan. If 47 was the partition of Hindu/Muslims, 1983 was the partition of Pakistani and Afghan pashtun. Our histories diverged forever from there. An Afghan national also killed our PM Liaqat Ali Khan and might have been supported by Afghanistan.

Now 100+ years after no matter what you and your Afghan buddies who we helped beat the Soviets do Pakistan will remain. What is more likely is that Afghanista will disappear. You deserve everything that is happening to you and no matter how much money you take from Indians to divert opinion and change history as pashtunforums has Pakistani Pashtuns will remain committed to the Pakistani motherland.

He gave shape and consistency to Afghanistan and centralized the government for the first time with the help of British arms and ammunition. Friendship with British helped him preventing his northern territories overran by much aggressive Russians.

So you admit your Afghans have been slaves of the British, good you admitted this because I remember clearly Tormana the Afghan calling us Ranjit Singhi, slaves of British and Punjabis. Of course forgetting the fact that Shah Shuja sat on British lap in Punjab to get back his Kingdom which he couldn't even if he tried without British force.

This deceiving by the way is making us hate the Afghans. Admit you are Afghan and stop trying to influence Pakistani Pashtuns. Or we will starve you Afghans to death. We won't even need to fight with your coward charas sniffing nation
 
You don't believe it but it was the partition of pashtuns in 1983.
And birth of a relatively stable Afghanistan.......with British money and arms & ammunition, he built an army and extended his authority beyond Kabul city to all of the present-day Afghanistan. Durand line partitioned some tribes, not a kingdom.


The tribes in the past used to rule themselves. But they were in the sphere of influence of Kabul. If you do not believe Abdur Rehman Khan what about the aggression agaainst Pakistani pashtuns of other monarchs.
Which monarchs? the tribes of Yaghistan were left alone and it was not even compulsory for them to furnish the troops for the military campaigns. In fact like Mughals, the Durrani kings paid allowances to the tribal Maliks along the Khyber pass and they were allowed to levy toll on the passengers and caravans passing through Khyber Pass.

Why did Daood Khan launch an invasion of Bajaur which our ghayur Pakistani pashtuns fought off?
Because one of the faction of Bajaur invited him. Dont be so dramatic by using word "Ghayur" for them. They just repelled the "intruders" in their territory. They also opposed the stationing of regular Pakistani army in Bajaur
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Yet the Afghan Pashtuns dominated today by their Tajik and Hazara foes whom by the way the Afghans haven't given up like you want the Pakistani pashtuns to give up Punjabis Sindhis and Balochs, took refuge with the same sikhs and their british masters. Shah Shuja and Dost Muhammad Khan lived in Luidhiana and used their status as British vassals to launch invasions of Afghanistan. You and your Afghan people have always been British slaves. It was the Pakistani Pashtuns that actually fought the British.
Yes Shah Shuja the puppet was installed as ruler of Afghanistan by East India Company but educate yourself. Afghans rose up against the puppet ruler and the Angraiz. Afghans dont like installed puppet rulers, why do you think Hamid Karzai was so badnam. And Dost Muhammad Khan was a defeated prisoner , not a slave



Now 100+ years after no matter what you and your Afghan buddies who we helped beat the Soviets do Pakistan will remain. What is more likely is that Afghanista will disappear.
Countries are not permanent but i think Afghans and Afghanistan are remarkably tenacious. Not a single separatist uprising in their modern history.



So you admit your Afghans have been slaves of the British, good you admitted this because I remember clearly Tormana the Afghan calling us Ranjit Singhi, slaves of British and Punjabis.
What Toramana or any other XYZ has said to you, its between you and him.

Admit you are Afghan and stop trying to influence Pakistani Pashtuns. Or we will starve you Afghans to death. We won't even need to fight with your coward charas sniffing nation
When exactly i said that i am not an Afghan? i am an Afghan , my ancestors have been Afghan , our Pir Roshan, Khushal Khattak , Rahman Baba were Afghans, our kings and Amirs Bahlol Lodi, Sher Shah , Mirwais Hotak and Ahmad Shah Abdali were Afghans, our Sufi saints Khwaja Khizr, Bostan barech, Shaikh Qasim, Mona Naghar etc were Afghans......

"Da Afghan pa nang me otharhala thoora
Nangyaale da zamane Khushal Khattak yam"
(I have taken out my sword in the name of Afghan honour
I am the proudest of the world the Khushal Khatak)
 
And birth of a relatively stable Afghanistan.......with British money and arms & ammunition, he built an army and extended his authority beyond Kabul city to all of the present-day Afghanistan. Durand line partitioned some tribes, not a kingdom.

Of course you will support any Afghan no matter what he does and you should also accept those like Latifullah Mehsud and Ehsanullah Ehsan who sat in the lap of Afghans to destabilize Pakistan. The nature of a snake is to bite. You are from a country of drug addicts and bacha bazi, a lot to be proud of of course. Durand line was the end of pashtuns as a single nation. The only way for it to happen against is the invasion of Afghanistan by Pakistan.
Which monarchs? the tribes of Yaghistan were left alone and it was not even compulsory for them to furnish the troops for the military campaigns. In fact like Mughals, the Durrani kings paid allowances to the tribal Maliks along the Khyber pass and they were allowed to levy toll on the passengers and caravans passing through Khyber Pass.

Of course every act stupidity of that countries rulers amounts to evident smartness on their part for you. This is inconsequential, it is history. Now it is clear that the pashtuns stand by Pakistan and will bleed the Afghans dry if they try to break our country. The tribes fought the british. The Afghans surrendered to them and signed the durand line agreement which the Afghan namakharams now want to throw off.
Because one of the faction of Bajaur invited him. Dont be so dramatic by using word "Ghayur" for them. They just repelled the "intruders" in their territory. They also opposed the stationing of regular Pakistani army in Bajaur
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This is an Afghan version of events. There is no proof whatsoever that the Bajaur tribes fought with the Pakistan army. Infact they sided with the army to beat back those namakharams from your namakharam country and your namakharam ideology of lar aw bar yaw afghan. The idea is hypocritical. If Afghans are committed to forming a pashtun nation then they first have to ditch the Tajiks Uzbeks and Hazaras. Only then can they have the right to even ask Pakistani pashtuns to ditch their Pakistani brothers. Of course with majority of your coward army consisting of Naswari uzbeks, tajiks and hazaras who are killing pashtuns left and right you have the courage to wrongly point out Pashtun tensions with other Pakistanis (which do not exist by the way)


Yes Shah Shuja the puppet was installed as ruler of Afghanistan by East India Company but educate yourself. Afghans rose up against the puppet ruler and the Angraiz. Afghans dont like installed puppet rulers, why do you think Hamid Karzai was so badnam. And Dost Muhammad Khan was a defeated prisoner , not a slave

Then why did the sucessively British worshipping (then Soviet and then American worshipping) Afghans accept Dost Mohammad Khan as king when he had been sitting in the British lap and done a deal with them. Afghans have always been fighting and played by the British. You guys are the ultimate cowards of the 21st century which is why people like you do not admit you are Afghan national but act as Pakistani ad try to create fractures in Pakistani society.



Countries are not permanent but i think Afghans and Afghanistan are remarkably tenacious. Not a single separatist uprising in their modern history.


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United Afghans. Give me a break. Even pashtuns in Afghanistan don't get along with tribal infighting let alone hazaras and tajiks who want khorasan.

What Toramana or any other XYZ has said to you, its between you and him.

Afghans deserve everything they got, they are racists and hate filled people.

When exactly i said that i am not an Afghan? i am an Afghan , my ancestors have been Afghan , our Pir Roshan, Khushal Khattak , Rahman Baba were Afghans, our kings and Amirs Bahlol Lodi, Sher Shah , Mirwais Hotak and Ahmad Shah Abdali were Afghans, our Sufi saints Khwaja Khizr, Bostan barech, Shaikh Qasim, Mona Naghar etc were Afghans......

Using Afghan in the ethnic sense does not give you the right to use it in the national sense. Lets say I admit I am part afghan ethnically. That does not mean I am one nationally. There is a big difference between the 2. Also where do the tajiks and hazaras go if Afghan means pashtun. Then shouldn't the tajiks and hazaras be kicked out? Use your Afghan brain. Its ability to think is being depleted by opium.

Also if 30 million pashtuns are in Pakistan and less than half that in Afghanistan plus Sher Shah Suri, Lodhis and Durranis and also KKK and Rehman Baba were born in areas like Multan or other parts of Pakistan who has a larger share of that history. Your khar dimagh afghans or true Pakistani pashtuns who haven't fallen into drug abuse and bachaybazi. Don't use history as a tool to curse Pakistan or the Pakistani pashtun will curse you back with far more intensity.

"Da Afghan pa nang me otharhala thoora
Nangyaale da zamane Khushal Khattak yam"
(I have taken out my sword in the name of Afghan honour
I am the proudest of the world the Khushal Khatak)
Of course a common card in the hands of Afghans. Using history to divide and claim no pashtun can be Pakistani and use Afghan both in ethnic and national sense. Even Rehman Baba in his entire history never fought against the mughals. Mahabat khan fought for them. Nawabs of Bengal were pashtuns. These were as much a valuable part of pashtun history as was Khushal Khan Khattak but afghans like you with an agenda clearly don't count any person outside of Khushal Khan Khattak as pashtun. Even our ancestor Pir Roshan's message of women's education is ignored by wife beating Afghans who do not let their girls go to school.

I admit that Khushal Khan Khattak and Pir Baba and others are a valuable part of pashtun history but history is being used as a tool to curse Pakistan.

Rehman Baba said sow flowers not thorns so they don't prick you.

Apt for those trying to divide Pakistan, my country on the basis of ethnicity.

Btw I have uncovered some info about you. When did you come to Pakistan, Afghan illegal immigrant.
 
When exactly i said that i am not an Afghan? i am an Afghan , my ancestors have been Afghan , our Pir Roshan, Khushal Khattak , Rahman Baba were Afghans, our kings and Amirs Bahlol Lodi, Sher Shah , Mirwais Hotak and Ahmad Shah Abdali were Afghans, our Sufi saints Khwaja Khizr, Bostan barech, Shaikh Qasim, Mona Naghar etc were Afghans......

"Da Afghan pa nang me otharhala thoora
Nangyaale da zamane Khushal Khattak yam"
(I have taken out my sword in the name of Afghan honour
I am the proudest of the world the Khushal Khatak)
Tbh, Afghan as a synonym for Pashtun has lost it's meaning. In modern day Afghanistan, a Tajik, Uzbek or Hazara identifies as Afghan as well.

"Prior to the rise of the nation as Afghanistan, it was used by Persian speakers and those influenced by the Persian language to denote the Pashtun people. In modern times, "Afghan" is rarely used as an ethnic term for the Pashtuns, but is rather used as the national demonym for all citizens of Afghanistan[3][4]Pashtuns, Tajiks, and also a large number of Hazaras, Uzbeks, Aimaqs, Turkmens, Balochs, Nuristanis, Pashayis, Pamiris, Arabs, and others.[5] According to the Encyclopædia Iranica, the word Afghan (afḡān) in current political usage means any citizen of Afghanistan, regardless of their tribal or religious affiliation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_(ethnonym)

Also
"However, the modern Constitution of Afghanistan states that "[t]he word Afghan shall apply to every citizen of Afghanistan."
https://www.afghanembassy.us
 
Why ate Afghans so anti Punjabi? Is it a historical grudge when the Sikhs took on the Afghans and managed to step foot on their land?
 
Tbh, Afghan as a synonym for Pashtun has lost it's meaning. In modern day Afghanistan, a Tajik, Uzbek or Hazara identifies as Afghan as well.

"Prior to the rise of the nation as Afghanistan, it was used by Persian speakers and those influenced by the Persian language to denote the Pashtun people. In modern times, "Afghan" is rarely used as an ethnic term for the Pashtuns, but is rather used as the national demonym for all citizens of Afghanistan[3][4]Pashtuns, Tajiks, and also a large number of Hazaras, Uzbeks, Aimaqs, Turkmens, Balochs, Nuristanis, Pashayis, Pamiris, Arabs, and others.[5] According to the Encyclopædia Iranica, the word Afghan (afḡān) in current political usage means any citizen of Afghanistan, regardless of their tribal or religious affiliation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_(ethnonym)

Also
"However, the modern Constitution of Afghanistan states that "[t]he word Afghan shall apply to every citizen of Afghanistan."
https://www.afghanembassy.us
By doing so, Afghanistan state has corrupted the word Afghan.....it has created a lot of confusion in the minds of people.....Afghan identity predates existence of Afghanistan state. They should have chosen neutral identity like Khorasan and Khorasani.

Of course you will support any Afghan no matter what he does and you should also accept those like Latifullah Mehsud and Ehsanullah Ehsan who sat in the lap of Afghans to destabilize Pakistan. The nature of a snake is to bite. You are from a country of drug addicts and bacha bazi, a lot to be proud of of course. Durand line was the end of pashtuns as a single nation. The only way for it to happen against is the invasion of Afghanistan by Pakistan.


Of course every act stupidity of that countries rulers amounts to evident smartness on their part for you. This is inconsequential, it is history. Now it is clear that the pashtuns stand by Pakistan and will bleed the Afghans dry if they try to break our country. The tribes fought the british. The Afghans surrendered to them and signed the durand line agreement which the Afghan namakharams now want to throw off.

This is an Afghan version of events. There is no proof whatsoever that the Bajaur tribes fought with the Pakistan army. Infact they sided with the army to beat back those namakharams from your namakharam country and your namakharam ideology of lar aw bar yaw afghan. The idea is hypocritical. If Afghans are committed to forming a pashtun nation then they first have to ditch the Tajiks Uzbeks and Hazaras. Only then can they have the right to even ask Pakistani pashtuns to ditch their Pakistani brothers. Of course with majority of your coward army consisting of Naswari uzbeks, tajiks and hazaras who are killing pashtuns left and right you have the courage to wrongly point out Pashtun tensions with other Pakistanis (which do not exist by the way)




Then why did the sucessively British worshipping (then Soviet and then American worshipping) Afghans accept Dost Mohammad Khan as king when he had been sitting in the British lap and done a deal with them. Afghans have always been fighting and played by the British. You guys are the ultimate cowards of the 21st century which is why people like you do not admit you are Afghan national but act as Pakistani ad try to create fractures in Pakistani society.






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United Afghans. Give me a break. Even pashtuns in Afghanistan don't get along with tribal infighting let alone hazaras and tajiks who want khorasan.



Afghans deserve everything they got, they are racists and hate filled people.



Using Afghan in the ethnic sense does not give you the right to use it in the national sense. Lets say I admit I am part afghan ethnically. That does not mean I am one nationally. There is a big difference between the 2. Also where do the tajiks and hazaras go if Afghan means pashtun. Then shouldn't the tajiks and hazaras be kicked out? Use your Afghan brain. Its ability to think is being depleted by opium.

Also if 30 million pashtuns are in Pakistan and less than half that in Afghanistan plus Sher Shah Suri, Lodhis and Durranis and also KKK and Rehman Baba were born in areas like Multan or other parts of Pakistan who has a larger share of that history. Your khar dimagh afghans or true Pakistani pashtuns who haven't fallen into drug abuse and bachaybazi. Don't use history as a tool to curse Pakistan or the Pakistani pashtun will curse you back with far more intensity.


Of course a common card in the hands of Afghans. Using history to divide and claim no pashtun can be Pakistani and use Afghan both in ethnic and national sense. Even Rehman Baba in his entire history never fought against the mughals. Mahabat khan fought for them. Nawabs of Bengal were pashtuns. These were as much a valuable part of pashtun history as was Khushal Khan Khattak but afghans like you with an agenda clearly don't count any person outside of Khushal Khan Khattak as pashtun. Even our ancestor Pir Roshan's message of women's education is ignored by wife beating Afghans who do not let their girls go to school.

I admit that Khushal Khan Khattak and Pir Baba and others are a valuable part of pashtun history but history is being used as a tool to curse Pakistan.

Rehman Baba said sow flowers not thorns so they don't prick you.

Apt for those trying to divide Pakistan, my country on the basis of ethnicity.

Btw I have uncovered some info about you. When did you come to Pakistan, Afghan illegal immigrant.
You are simply ranting and sobbing. I dont know whether i should respond any more to you on this thread. Your posts are of no value
 
By doing so, Afghanistan state has corrupted the word Afghan.....it has created a lot of confusion in the minds of people.....Afghan identity predates existence of Afghanistan state. They should have chosen neutral identity like Khorasan and Khorasani.
Apparently, it always has been a foreign term for Pashtuns and is the Farsi term for them. I have heard that 'Afghan' turns to 'Awghan' or 'Apghan' in Pashto as the letter f(fay) is not native to it.
Similar to how Turks would refer to every Farsi speaker in Khorasan as 'Tazi'(which actually meant Arab) which would later form to Tajik and the Tajik identity was created.
 
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