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@lastofthepatriots the problem is trying to explain the basics to some here. It's pointless :D.
 
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What are you? A closet Taliban supporter?

There used to be a time when it was in our interest to support the Taliban against India backed Northern Alliance. We never forgot that the Taliban are Afghans too. Because their claim on our lands was similar to Northern Alliance commie nationalists. Today we are finding out that the Taliban meant what they used to say.

If the Afghan Taliban are serious, they should eliminate TTP on their soil. Perhaps in a joint effort with Pak army. If no, the casualties will increase and you can expect a major conflict.

All gernail pussies have to do is week long arty drill on border and all this tamasha will end. TTP in Pakistan can get same vigo treatment that Pakistani civilians got if these gernails were even half way sincere.

These are all scare and pressure tactics by gernails to make awam feel that fauj is necessary.

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If the Afghan Taliban are serious, they should eliminate TTP on their soil. Perhaps in a joint effort with Pak army. If not, the casualties will increase

I think a future IEA-PAK army cooperation is highly possible choice for both..

But issue is people like Bleek bro who are blatant... Who is the fuk is Ahmad Yasir man?? that is a random twitter handle.. He is a double poster with highly doubtful intentions
 
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All gernail pussies have to do is week long arty drill on border and all this tamasha will end. TTP in Pakistan can get same vigo treatment that Pakistani civilians got if these gernails were even half way sincere.

These are all scare and pressure tactics by gernails to make awam feel that fauj is necessary.

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At the end of the day, the major responsibility lies with the Pakistani army. I have said this many times. Inaction means more casualties. More casualties means more criticism and pressure. TTP won't stop with bloodshed.
 
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@lastofthepatriots the problem is trying to explain the basics to some here. It's pointless :D.

Man even Taliban isn’t stupid enough to **** with PA. That’s why they’re giving room to TTP.

The guys on the forum are shitting their nappies thinking Pakistan Army is a joke.

They cite examples of Americans, Russians, British but fail to realize that we’ve been living by these cavemen for thousands of years. If anyone knows how to take them out, it’s us.

But clearly Army leadership is busy in playing games. They want to use this threat in their favor. Awam is confusing tact and strategic thinking that these gernails have studied for decades with incompetency.
 
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Not really - Pakistan’s man is Hekmatyar since the early 70s due to the relationship cultivated then.
The Taliban were a total organic surprise to Pakistan as much as anyone else and it had to spend the next 10 years trying to build relationships with them.

Please read a bit into this history before making blanket statements
The history seems quite fascinating. What I gather is Pakistan military wanted a lapdog, but the puppy became a Pitbull.
 
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Man even Taliban isn’t stupid enough to **** with PA. That’s why they’re giving room to TTP.

The guys on the forum are shitting their nappies thinking Pakistan Army is a joke.

They cite examples of Americans, Russians, British but fail to realize that we’ve been living by these cavemen for thousands of years. If anyone knows how to take them out, it’s us.

But clearly Army leadership is busy in playing games. They want to use this threat in their favor. Awam is confusing tact and strategic thinking that these gernails have studied for decades with incompetency.

Look strategy is based on actully using your head rather then running with irrelevant periods as signficiant because they are not..

Pakistan is indeed a powerful country But the IEA is definitely not a walk in the park either and obviously what lead to the Soviet union collapse and chased NATO out of there is not to be underestimated.

But this is currently not our problem whatsoever? And you may ask why? We in fact need good relations with the Afghans our future depends on it. Because on the eastern side we have a highly unpredictable enemy who is going thru some sort of revival period or re-awakening or whatever you like to call it hence we can't take our eyes of them..

Hence why we need a strong Afghanistan and Pakistan side by side both with terrible terrain once the gangu commits miscalculation WE MAKE a historic example out of them..

But we won't be able to do with if he aren't smart about it like that..
 
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The history seems quite fascinating. What I gather is Pakistan military wanted a lapdog, but the puppy became a Pitbull.

Ahhh, there comes the "American" to the forefront.

You also know how the history ended recently, right? 🤔

You can't taunt Pakistan. TTP will be erased. No doubt about it. It is small fish compared to what Pakistan had to endure 20 years of US/NATO/India torture. TTP is small and pathetic. It is the Pakistani army delaying the inevitable and that is what bothers everyone. Nothing more nothing less.
 
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Public opinion was pro-Taliban and anti-Nato. Ofcourse the fault is GHQ (Zia era) which fostered this mindset but ultimately Musharraf had to toe a balance

Ok. While Zia was involved in this, he wasn't the only one; honestly, he passed away tragically, and none carried out his plans. The main issue is after the conflict, we dropped the ball entirely with future leadership and left the Afghans hanging, for the U.S., even a child could've seen it coming that they'll go after their work was done. An intelligent man doesn't stick around after a robbery. After Zia, where were ISI and top brass to help reform and structure Afghan society? You have two generations that know nothing but to fight.

How India molded Bangladesh properly, we failed to do with Afghanistan, a neighbor right next door. However, you have India during WoT go to Afghan and influence their public to a great deal to be Anti-Pakistani, again a failure of the establishment.

Mushraff didn't re-balance anything, he chose a side, and this country is paying the price now. There was no structural change to Pakistan's bureaucracy or inner workings; instead, he brought the old back first.

Tell me, what long-term benefits did Mushraff bring besides his useless speeches? First, he did a job and did it very cheaply. The individuals I know work with some of the American policymakers I've talked with over the years were surprised at how easy it is to deal with Pakistan. One individual commented his mistress was more stressful to deal with.

The only thing we've gotten were F-16s, that's it. So you've lost more and gained very little.

Suppose you live in a subdivision (housing society), and someone from another housing society decides to come and wreck your area, and you offer your support. Do you think your subdivision neighbors will come out with barfi to celebrate?

We lack critical long-term thinking; we do not think 5, 10, 20, or even 50 years out.

What relationship? it was a transactional dealing where Pakistan was used to prevent Soviet hegemony in central and south Asia(Soviets would have taken afghanistan and then overthrown pakistan to connect to a USSR aligned India in a land corridor), after the collapse of the soviet union, there was no real benefit to the relationship for the US, if anything after the 90s, and into the 2000s with the emergence of China, the US needed India as a counterbalance, and with Pakistan's relationship with China, this sort of thing was inevitable.

The rest is wishful thinking. People don't seem to understand the hostility towards Pakistan by the Karzai administration, whether its the talibs or Karzai, the Afghans were hostile towards the Durand line, and whether the insurgency came via the talibs or whether it resembled something like the BLA/PTM, there is no guarantee that an insurgency wouldn't exist.

The mistake for Pakistan was not managing the Afghan issue better after the soviet collapse, where it became a hotbed for nonstate actors, and even after the US invasion, it could have been salvaged if Pakistan played a more active role in shaping the dynamics of the Afghan Govt, and leveraging access to the landlocked country to do so(its not like the US could access Afghanistan through Iran and the northern Russia route was never sustainable for geopolitical reasons). The Durand line issue should have been decisively settled then and there, as well as the fence issue, back when US money was flowing in with no restrictions.

This is where we fail to understand the transactional cost, and we repeat the mistakes repeatedly.

I do not know what Mooli the Americans offers, whereas the whole government keeps its mouth open and religious fall on it repeatedly.
 
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Afghan Taliban will stand around 10 minutes in open warfare...

Then they will go to their caves and start guerilla war....the terrorism will inevitably spill over and rest of world will join Hunt
that twitter account should be reminded with pictures of what happened to Taliban when the Americans came . how they were dealt like animals in containers left to die in there.
indeed the Pakistanis were stupid to feel sorry for them.


 
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This thread should have been actully closed and then all of sudden you see a mod posting in it without closing it...

The thread is based on alternative reality or a ghost spokesperson that doesn't exist..

But either way......

Hope the PDF'ers understand what is actully at stake which is the eastern border thats basically it and if we pass that test.. The sky is the limit but we first and foremost have to pass that test nothing else matters in our political manuvering
 
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People should recognize that Afghan Taliban is pro Pakistan while TTP is on Indian payroll. They are two separate groups.

Haqqani faction is the most strong faction of the Taliban and they are with Pakistan.
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they are one and the same. they share same ideology., share same disdain for every living human being who does not share their version of Islam. both are savages and cruel and both have their own records of brutality.
the Afghan Taliban insisted that the Pakistan reconcile with the TTP. with Gen Faiz as DG ISI, Gen Bajwa as a selfish self serving chief and pro Taliban pacifist Imran Khan as PM, the stage was set to send Deobandi clerics to Afghanistan to talk peace with TTP and agree to their terms.

by the time the main actors were retired or sacked on the Pakistani side, the TTP had regrouped and replenished itself inside Pakistan and declared the end of peace. I doubt if they would've called off the terror attacks even if Imran Khan was still PM, they were running the negotiations to their liking and could call them off whenever they wanted so called them off they did,.


side note. Gen Zia had nothing to do with Talban. Engineer Gulbuddin Hikmatyar and Siraj Uddin Haqqani were the ones that Pakistani state supported and presented to the Americans.
the Taliban were the Idea of PPP interior Minister Nasir Ullah Baber during Benazir time and had the combined blessing and support of KSA and USA to bring peace in Afghanistan after repeated failed attempts to bring peace among the Afghan war lords. some of its leaders while young in individual capacity might have fought for one or two Afghan Mujahideen warlords but mostly the Taliban leadership and its foot soldiers were under 20 to 30s young.

This thread should have been actully closed and then all of sudden you see a mod posting in it without closing it...

The thread is based on alternative reality or a ghost spokesperson that doesn't exist..

But either way......

Hope the PDF'ers understand what is actully at stake which is the eastern border thats basically it and if we pass that test.. The sky is the limit but we first and foremost have to pass that test nothing else matters in our political manuvering
you are right. there are fake accounts out there pretended to be Afghans although they maybe Indian or some disgruntled PTI supporter just to troll and hate on Pakistan army.
but this sentiment is seen along the borders where the Afghan Taliban are very aggressive with their inflated egos oozing out like puss out of their every hole when talking to Pakistani soldiers. time and again they have mentioned that they want their land back up to Attock and no Pakistani should stand in their way because they have defeated the Americans.
 
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no dear
they are one and the same. they share same ideology., share same disdain for every living human being who does not share their version of Islam. both are savages and cruel and both have their own records of brutality.
the Afghan Taliban insisted that the Pakistan reconcile with the TTP. with Gen Faiz as DG ISI, Gen Bajwa as a selfish self serving chief and pro Taliban pacifist Imran Khan as PM, the stage was set to send Deobandi clerics to Afghanistan to talk peace with TTP and agree to their terms.

by the time the main actors were retired or sacked on the Pakistani side, the TTP had regrouped and replenished itself inside Pakistan and declared the end of peace. I doubt if they would've called off the terror attacks even if Imran Khan was still PM, they were running the negotiations to their liking and could call them off whenever they wanted so called them off they did,.


side note. Gen Zia had nothing to do with Talban. Engineer Gulbuddin Hikmatyar and Siraj Uddin Haqqani were the ones that Pakistani state supported and presented to the Americans.
the Taliban were the Idea of PPP interior Minister Nasir Ullah Baber during Benazir time and had the combined blessing and support of KSA and USA to bring peace in Afghanistan after repeated failed attempts to bring peace among the Afghan war lords. some of its leaders while young in individual capacity might have fought for one or two Afghan Mujahideen warlords but mostly the Taliban leadership and its foot soldiers were under 20 to 30s young.

I am glad that people like you don't lead our country or ever will.. You see Peasants can't lead a country because they lack the understanding of danger or not danger etc etc..

The Question is are we really facing issues from the western border like some are putting it or is it some few thugs with low-intensity insurgency who does not get support from the otherside? Is that what we really consider threat nowadays? This is not it folks..

This is what existential threat looks like......

A foreign alien society that is bizarrely going thru some form of revolution next door... 1.5 billion cow worshippers and who are as alien as possible to the everyday Pakistani and his way of life..

Besides this individual cites historical grudges and has even resorted to lynching these in their own country.. This creature is on the other side of the border now that is what existential threat looks like especially when it sits right next to Punjab province which is the heartland of pakistan..

Lets assume we cut ties with our western borders neighbour it will only weaken us against our ultimate enemies on the eastern border who is hellbent on our end..

If we mess things on our western borders it will be our handicap...

What most Pakistanis don't understand is we can't afford to lose a war against our eastern border neighbours.. Everything is at stake... ''It is existential'' We have to win at all costs.. Whatever grants us an advantage is our friend..

Someone provides you with 50mio + valuable cannon fodders you take it + terrain and someone provides you with latest technology you take it.. Whatever strengthens you to eventually face your demon and slay it is our main interest
 
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The history seems quite fascinating. What I gather is Pakistan military wanted a lapdog, but the puppy became a Pitbull.
I am sure you must have felt very accomplished after writing this one liner and that is fine. Life is about enjoying little things.

Pakistan military had no delusion about controlling the Afghan Taliban . it has been dealing with Afghans and know their volatile nature for over 70 years. Afghan Taliban were approached first to facilitate the American withdrawal and then to make peace with TTP on behest of our former pacifist PM who was always against war on terror (absolutely not to USA).
 
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