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Afghan Shops Remove Heads of Mannequins in Line With Taliban Order

For God's sake.. its not idol that people worship. Its just a dummy to showcase clothes.. That how clothes will look like while wearing... I mean this what I fear. That a radical government next door creates extremely negative impact on our society which is at verge of extremism.

yes People are dying and suffering in Afghanistan and yet Talibans are doing nothing in this regard. I would have supported them openly if they would have honored the human rights. Sadly, the corrupt regimes of Ghani and all previous afghan govs were worst in their own way.. This Taliban regime is evil as far as human rights is concerned and totally misfit when it comes to running the country.

Was there a part of cloth that you cannot showcase since the face is gone? No? Dummie were meant yo showcase cloths... so are cloths un-showcase-able now? Why are there dummies which are made headless by design?

Watch what extremism we have taken in and want to see it in others.

You started your post with "For God sake" right? For the same God sake tell us what does God say on this matter. So?
 
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You can also have a statue in remembrance. It is not an act of worship, it is in memory. There is nothing wrong with it. It adds to the culture and it is relics for the people in the future to remember you by.

Anyone remember the ISIS dogs going around Iraq and destroying their history?

This isn't polytheist 7th century Arabia, everyone is a Muslim now relax. :lol:

No. You cannot. We remember Allah and Prophet of Allah ﷺ the most we can. There are no statues made in their memory. There are no statues made in the memory of Hazrat Umar, Usman, Abu Bakar and Ali or other Imams. If you are learning from Islam then there is absolute clarity on this matter.

Let's put one thing right by design. Shell we? Let's learn Islam from Quran and Sunnah and not from people who do not know Islam.
 
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Was there a part of cloth that you cannot showcase since the face is gone? No? Dummie were meant yo showcase cloths... so are cloths un-showcase-able now? Why are there dummies which are made headless by design?

Watch what extremism we have taken in and want to see it in others.

You started your post with "For God sake" right? For the same God sake tell us what does God say on this matter. So?

Cutting heads of dummies is pure Jahalat!.. Its just beginning, These cavemen will transform religion into some real cult. You want to go down that hill of seeing everything as if its some sin or its Haram then good luck to you. Perhaps you should stop using internet, computers / phones. Im sure radicals will find tons of reasons to declare it haram as well. Ban music, female education is already banned by most fanatic regime on earth, getting out is banned, can't travel specific kilometers.. Riding donkeys / horses is Sunnat. Plus its specifically mentioned in Quran as means of transportation. Why not use them for transportation? Why don't you follow sunnah as it was in 1400 yrs old. Why just don't get ourselves into 6 century AD. I say it again, there is no limit when you start seeing things with such small mind. Your intention is never to worship a manequin. But you relate it with IDOLS! Same fanatic regime destroyed the ancient treasure by destroying the heritage site in their earlier tenure. Small minds and people who have insecurities with their emaan / faith do such acts. We need to broadness our view and open our minds, the universe has trillions of stars and galaxies, our existence is not even a fraction of a dust particle in deserts. do you think the almighty with such greatness will be judging if manequin had a face or not.

The govts (even islamic) should not intervene in such things and work for real issues, they have mountains
of issues in front of them, there people are without jobs, and starving. But yeah too much to expect from a radical regime to work for their people.
 
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Cutting heads of dummies is pure Jahalat!.. Its just beginning, These cavemen will transform religion into some real cult. You want to go down that hill of seeing everything as if its some sin or its Haram then good luck to you. Perhaps you should stop using internet, computers / phones. Im sure radicals will find tons of reasons to declare it haram as well. Ban music, female education is already banned by most fanatic regime on earth, getting out is banned, can't travel specific kilometers.. Riding donkeys / horses is Sunnat. Plus its specifically mentioned in Quran as means of transportation. Why not use them for transportation? Why don't you follow sunnah as it was in 1400 yrs old. Why just don't get ourselves into 6 century AD. I say it again, there is no limit when you start seeing things with such small mind. Your intention is never to worship a manequin. But you relate it with IDOLS! Same fanatic regime destroyed the ancient treasure by destroying the heritage site in their earlier tenure. Small minds and people who have insecurities with their emaan / faith do such acts. We need to broadness our view and open our minds, the universe has trillions of stars and galaxies, our existence is not even a fraction of a dust particle in deserts. do you think the almighty with such greatness will be judging if manequin had a face or not.

The govts (even islamic) should not intervene in such things and work for real issues, they have mountains
of issues in front of them, there people are without jobs, and starving. But yeah too much to expect from a radical regime to work for their people.
These people are nothing more than lobotomised zombies.
 
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FILE - A woman wearing a burqa walks past a women's clothing store with headless mannequins displayed in its window, in Kabul, Afghanistan, Oct. 19, 2021.

ISLAMABAD —
Clothing shops in Afghanistan’s western Herat province have begun removing the heads of display mannequins, in line with new directives given by the local office of the Taliban’s ministry for Islamic guidance.

Obeidullah Yari, a local business community leader, told VOA on Monday that about 20% of the shops in the provincial capital, also named Herat, have already implemented the order to escape punishment.

The Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention Vice, which is responsible for administering the Taliban’s interpretation of Islam, decreed last week that shop mannequins should have their heads removed for being offensive to Islam, warning that violators would be punished.

City mall owners and garment sellers initially criticized the Taliban directive, telling Afghan media that mannequins were also used to display clothes in other Islamic counties. But Yari said shopkeepers were now removing the heads of the dummies.

Aziz Rahman, the provincial head of the ministry, told local media he ordered shopkeepers to hack the heads off their mannequins because “they are idols.” He went on to explain that Islam prohibits idolatry, or the worshipping of idols.

Taliban authorities reportedly have also increased monitoring of public taxis in the capital, Kabul, to see if drivers are abiding by the ministry’s instructions related to women's right to travel.

The decree requires drivers to carry only those female passengers who wear a headscarf or Islamic hijab and are accompanied by a male relative if they travel more than 72 kilometers. It also instructs cabdrivers to grow beards, stop their vehicles at prayer times and stop playing music while driving.

The ministry reportedly has also banned Afghan women from driving. It has also ordered local channels to stop showing dramas and soap operas featuring actresses, and female news anchors to wear hijabs while on the air.

Taliban chief spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid, in a recent interview to Afghan state television, defended the steps taken by the Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention Vice, saying they should not be a matter of concern for anyone because “Afghanistan is Muslim nation and no one is opposed to Islamic laws in the country.”

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FILE - Taliban chief spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid speaks during an event in Kabul, Afghanistan, Nov. 25, 2021.
Mujahid said, however, that all government “religious departments” are instructed not to “mistreat people and be polite to them" while giving them guidance about Islam.

The ultraconservative Taliban regained power in August and named an all-male interim Cabinet to govern the conflict-torn country in line with the group’s strict interpretation of Islam, despite pledging not to revert to the harsh polices of their previous regime from 1996 to 2001.

The government has allowed schoolboys to return to classes but girls across many Afghan provinces are still waiting for permission to do so and most women have been prevented from returning to work.

When the Taliban were last in power, girls were not allowed to attend school and women were barred from work as well as education. The then-Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, or the morals police, had been accused of serious human rights abuses, leading to Afghanistan’s isolation from the world.

Mujahid said that arrangements were being made to allow all Afghan girls to resume their educational activities, noting that schoolgirls across several provinces have already rejoined classes.

Critics, however, are skeptical of the Taliban assurances and say the group is gradually bringing back its repressive policies of the past.

“It was expected; but I would have welcomed every single employee of this ministry to be focused on poverty reduction, aid delivery and lifting the beggars from the street, feeding them & giving them a job as their 1st priority,” tweeted Torek Farhadi, a former Afghan official.

The United States and the global community at large have not recognized the new Taliban government and suspended most non-humanitarian financial assistance to the aid-dependent country.

Foreign countries continue to refuse to open direct political engagement with the Islamist group until it ensures respect for human rights, especially those of women, runs the country inclusively and cuts ties with transnational terrorists.

Meanwhile, Afghanistan is in the grip of a severe humanitarian crisis stemming from years of war, drought and poverty. The United Nations has repeatedly warned that more than half the population in the country are facing starvation, with nearly a million children at risk of dying because of a “severe acute malnutrition.”


Yes. This will put food on the table.
 
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Well at first I thought pakistan will recognize their government instantly and like previously we will be the first ones to recognize them. Glad we made the right decision and didn't recognize them .
 
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Muslims do not focus on important things like.

1. Aqeeda and the pillars of Islam and iman
2. Honesty in income and dealing
3. Lies - stay away from
4. Education

But focus is on irrelevant issues like the mannequin head or making sure women have no education or rights and shouting you love the prophet pbuh but doing the exact opposite of what he taught. One day cinema's are haram in Saudi next the are perfect for entertainment
 
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Was just wondering will tgey also cutt off chest and arse from those mannequin? 🤣
 
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I would say in 30 years they would end up with an Iran like system

It will be interesting to see the outcome to this literalist approach
 
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Muslims do not focus on important things like.

1. Aqeeda and the pillars of Islam and iman
2. Honesty in income and dealing
3. Lies - stay away from
4. Education

But focus is on irrelevant issues like the mannequin head or making sure women have no education or rights and shouting you love the prophet pbuh but doing the exact opposite of what he taught. One day cinema's are haram in Saudi next the are perfect for entertainment
The word you are looking for is "confused".
Was just wondering will tgey also cutt off chest and arse from those mannequin? 🤣
Good idea.
I can tell you are a true Muslim. 😁
 
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Cutting heads of dummies is pure Jahalat!.. Its just beginning, These cavemen will transform religion into some real cult. You want to go down that hill of seeing everything as if its some sin or its Haram then good luck to you. Perhaps you should stop using internet, computers / phones. Im sure radicals will find tons of reasons to declare it haram as well. Ban music, female education is already banned by most fanatic regime on earth, getting out is banned, can't travel specific kilometers.. Riding donkeys / horses is Sunnat. Plus its specifically mentioned in Quran as means of transportation. Why not use them for transportation? Why don't you follow sunnah as it was in 1400 yrs old. Why just don't get ourselves into 6 century AD. I say it again, there is no limit when you start seeing things with such small mind. Your intention is never to worship a manequin. But you relate it with IDOLS! Same fanatic regime destroyed the ancient treasure by destroying the heritage site in their earlier tenure. Small minds and people who have insecurities with their emaan / faith do such acts. We need to broadness our view and open our minds, the universe has trillions of stars and galaxies, our existence is not even a fraction of a dust particle in deserts. do you think the almighty with such greatness will be judging if manequin had a face or not.

The govts (even islamic) should not intervene in such things and work for real issues, they have mountains
of issues in front of them, there people are without jobs, and starving. But yeah too much to expect from a radical regime to work for their people.

@JawadKKhan;

You are quite agitated on mannequins - but I see they are not your issue. You are afraid that Afghan government would abuse human rights in the name of religion. Is that right?

But it is also clear you do not understand the difference between religion, culture and the era of technology you are born in. You have mixed them implying as if sitting on donkeys is a principle of Islam. If you go on this line then you might also imagine Islam asks you to fight wars with arrows and bows. Obviously, this is not true, Obviously sitting on donkeys is not an aspect of Islam and neither are phones, internet and computers haram which are means of earning, communication and business in this era of technology. But here is the real question to you: Why are you learning Islam from the people who do not follow it? The only source of Islam is Quran and Sunnah and NOT the mouth of a molvi, mullah or an act of Talib in Afghanistan. If this aspect is clear then we'll save ourselves from a lot of confusion and frustration. And please stop bashing Islam because you hate the Taliban or their unIslamic acts which may be driven by their culture or flat nonsense.

Now let's close the topic we opened in the first place: should mannequins have heads or not. Here's hadith from Sunan Nasai with Reference included. Its pretty clear that you cannot imitate the creation of Allah and this act invokes one of the biggest punishments there are. Being Muslims Alhamdolillah, if we had to choose between mannequins with heads or without it, what would you rather choose? One aspect can bring the maximum punishment there is - and other option might save you. Think in a quiet moment before you make a call. May Allah help you and us all follow the straight path. Aamin.

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أَخْبَرَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، وَقُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ الْقَاسِمَ بْنَ مُحَمَّدٍ، يُخْبِرُ عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، زَوْجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَتْ دَخَلَ عَلَىَّ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَقَدْ سَتَّرْتُ بِقِرَامٍ فِيهِ تَمَاثِيلُ فَلَمَّا رَآهُ تَلَوَّنَ وَجْهُهُ ثُمَّ هَتَكَهُ بِيَدِهِ وَقَالَ ‏ "‏ إِنَّ أَشَدَّ النَّاسِ عَذَابًا يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ الَّذِينَ يُشَبِّهُونَ بِخَلْقِ اللَّهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

It was narrated that 'Aishah, the wife of the Prophet [SAW], said: "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] entered upon me, and I had put up a curtain on which there were images. When he saw it, his face changed color, then he tore it down with his hand and said: 'The people who will be most severely punished on the Day of Resurrection will be those who try to imitate the creation of Allah.'"

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5357
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@JawadKKhan;

You are quite agitated on mannequins - but I see they are not your issue. You are afraid that Afghan government would abuse human rights in the name of religion. Is that right?

But it is also clear you do not understand the difference between religion, culture and the era of technology you are born in. You have mixed them implying as if sitting on donkeys is a principle of Islam. If you go on this line then you might also imagine Islam asks you to fight wars with arrows and bows. Obviously, this is not true, Obviously sitting on donkeys is not an aspect of Islam and neither are phones, internet and computers haram which are means of earning, communication and business in this era of technology. But here is the real question to you: Why are you learning Islam from the people who do not follow it? The only source of Islam is Quran and Sunnah and not the mouth of a molvi, mullah or an act of Talib in Afghanistan. If this aspect is clear then we'll save ourselves from a lot of confusion and frustration. And please stop bashing Islam because you hate the Taliban or their unIslamic acts which may be driven by their culture or flat nonsense.

Now let's close the topic we opened in the first place: should mannequins have heads or not. Here's hadith from Sunan Nasai with Reference included. Its pretty clear that you cannot imitate the creation of Allah and this act invokes one of the biggest punishments there are. Being Muslims Alhamdolillah, if we had to choose between mannequins with heads or without it, what would you rather choose? One aspect can bring the maximum punishment there is - and other option might save you. Think in a quiet moment before you make a call. May Allah help you and us all follow the straight path. Aamin.

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أَخْبَرَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، وَقُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ الْقَاسِمَ بْنَ مُحَمَّدٍ، يُخْبِرُ عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، زَوْجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَتْ دَخَلَ عَلَىَّ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَقَدْ سَتَّرْتُ بِقِرَامٍ فِيهِ تَمَاثِيلُ فَلَمَّا رَآهُ تَلَوَّنَ وَجْهُهُ ثُمَّ هَتَكَهُ بِيَدِهِ وَقَالَ ‏ "‏ إِنَّ أَشَدَّ النَّاسِ عَذَابًا يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ الَّذِينَ يُشَبِّهُونَ بِخَلْقِ اللَّهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

It was narrated that 'Aishah, the wife of the Prophet [SAW], said: "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] entered upon me, and I had put up a curtain on which there were images. When he saw it, his face changed color, then he tore it down with his hand and said: 'The people who will be most severely punished on the Day of Resurrection will be those who try to imitate the creation of Allah.'"

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5357
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A statue is in memory of a person not God so this doesn't apply. A mannequin is certainly a non issue.

It's all about intention. That's why you have to state your intent before prayer. You can build this intent without faith and rituals too if you do the reading.
 
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A statue is in memory of a person not God so this doesn't apply. A mannequin is certainly a non issue.

It's all about intention. That's why you have to state your intent before prayer. You can build this intent without faith and rituals too if you do the reading.

You have obviously not read my post or the included Hadith warning of highest punishments for imitating creations of Allah. If you had, you had saved yourself from writing a post.

And we are all keen to learn where did you read a statue in the memory of a person is permissible. You must have read some books which only you had access to. Why not share them with the world and help them see what only you have been able to see?
 
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You have obviously not read my post or the included Hadith warning of highest punishments for imitating creations of Allah. If you had, you had saved yourself from writing a post.

And we are all keen to learn where did you read a statue in the memory of a person is permissible. You must have read some books which only you had access to. Why not share them with the world and help them see what only you have been able to see?

No one is imitating the creation of Allah dude.

This is a statue of Alexander, I see this as a person so I really do not understand what the problem is.

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