Afghan mujahideen 'owe Kashmir a debt'

[Jade]

That's factually incorrect. You forgot about 1948

This is 2013 and not 1948, and even in 1948 there was no local support. India is not Afghanistan or Pakistan. Taliban will be annihilated the minute it set its feet on India. Forget Taliban, in spite of India having 200 million Muslims, there are no significant Islamic terror groups in India.

 

[PoKeMon]

Notice they are talking about Kashmiri nation and not necessarily claiming occupied Kashmir as Pakistani; in fact the ground realities are that despite global designations - such groups do hold considerable influence on the ground

You may call them terrorists and it's natural that you would do so since they have killed a lot of the occupation forces nestled there off and on for the past 6 decades.

By the way - hundustan is known to have armed and supported non Muslim proxies in occupied J&K - though demographics and numbers aren't entirely on their side (hence AFSPA an other methods which are far more brutal than any terrorism you indians yap about)

There is no reason to take there word as gospel truth as this is the first rule of the covert action book not to reveal the source and motto.

Offcourse they will talk of whole kashmir as an entity, pakistan wants kashmir to be separated first from India, its merging with pakistan can be dealt later. Such rhetoric they believe give them moral standings.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

There is no reason to take there word as gospel truth as this is the first rule of the covert action book not to reveal the source and motto.

Offcourse they will talk of whole kashmir as an entity, pakistan wants kashmir to be separated first from India, its merging with pakistan can be dealt later. Such rhetoric they believe give them moral standings.

Well we can debate about it till the cows come home, only time will tell

This is 2013 and not 1948, and even in 1948 there was no local support. India is not Afghanistan or Pakistan. Taliban will be annihilated the minute it set its feet on India. Forget Taliban, in spite of India having 200 million Muslims, there are no significant Islamic terror groups in India.

Time changes. It geography and demographics don't

I was replying to a meme there who erroneously suggested bad blood between Pakhtuns and Kashmiris when it was Pakhtuns who were part of the battles against the illegitimate forces occupying Kashmir

I'd say we are one and the same.

 

[chhota bheem]

Well we can debate about it till the cows come home, only time will tell



Time changes. It geography and demographics don't

I was replying to a meme there who erroneously suggested bad blood between Pakhtuns and Kashmiris when it was Pakhtuns who were part of the battles against the illegitimate forces occupying Kashmir

I'd say we are one and the same.

Whats with 1948 am i missing something here

 

[notsuperstitious]

Well we can debate about it till the cows come home, only time will tell



Time changes. It geography and demographics don't

I was replying to a meme there who erroneously suggested bad blood between Pakhtuns and Kashmiris when it was Pakhtuns who were part of the battles against the illegitimate forces occupying Kashmir

I'd say we are one and the same.

Keep repeating lies to yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6QsTH9_TII

 

[Jzaib]

It is really hard to imagine a Hindu converting to Muslim. At least I haven't seen one. There could be some case, but they are rare.

there is a channel peace TV .. run my zakir naik .. have u ever seen it .. more then 500 girls are converted to islam on live tv .. youtube it .. then search google ... here is also a link from ur news papers
Over 2500 women converted to Islam in Kerala since 2006, says Oommen Chandy : South, News - India Today

indian government should let give a the list of converts so u guys can know the relaity ...a

if there is no pressure on them many more will convert..kindly see post number 77 from an indian guy .. if u need any detail kindly ask him bcoz he admitted that so many people are converting to islam

Sisters beaten up for converting to Islam - Indian Express

And then you destroy same afghanistan and Iraq hand in hand with US.

So dont talk crap about this umaah, you simply meddle in your interest and we know how good you were with bengali muslims.



How come india came under muslim rule genius? By peaceful talks or by invasion?

Go home kid.

it is useless talking to u bcoz u dont know basic history .. just tell me how did we distroy iraq ? is there any involvement ... Now dnt run away from my question . After ur reply ill come to afghanistan ...

 

[INDIC]

I was replying to a meme there who erroneously suggested bad blood between Pakhtuns and Kashmiris when it was Pakhtuns who were part of the battles against the illegitimate forces occupying Kashmir

I'd say we are one and the same.

But the Pashtun militia ended up looting and killing the Kashmiri Muslims. In Baramulla, the militia was busy in booty collection deferring the conquest of Srinagar just 50kms away.

On occasions Bourke-White was able to slip out unescorted and meet tribal Pashtun invaders. She narrates her conversation with one Invader leader, Badsha Gul of Mohmand tribe. Gul had brought one thousand tribals, a convoy of trucks and ammunition for invasion of Kashmir. The trucks and buses would at times come back within a day or two “bursting with loot, only to return to Kashmir with more tribesmen, to repeat their indiscriminate “liberating” – and terrorising of Hindu, Sikh, and Muslim villagers alike”.
Kashmir Sentinel » Tribal Invasion: An American Reportage

 

[Jzaib]

Where do you guys keep coming from? Ever heard of Sikandar Butshikan? He did not kill Hindus? Ever heard of Aurangzeb's sardars in Kashmir? He did not kill Hindus? Its because of those terrorist bastards that Kashmir is muslim majority in the first place. The kashmiris like some other ethnicities were too weak to fight for their faith and also loved to avoid paying taxes. They need our help, they just don't know it yet.

sorry i dont some of them .. but i guess u r right .. so now the question is may be they were killing terrorist as well ..if the defination of being a terrorist is that u stand up for ur right and if no onbe listen to u, u pick up arms ..may be those hindus were also terrorist ..may be those rulers were doing gud killing those bastard terroist ...

and what a stupid logic, they need ur help but they dont just know it .. who the hell r u guys to decide whats best for them ? let me what mujadin were doing is also gud for u but u just know it yet

In fact the converse is true my friend. As a member of a government sponsored organisation, it worries me personally that so many Indian Muslims are converting to Hinduism , Buddhism and Christianity in India without any "stress factors" being imposed on them

actually dont worry about them .. see the history ..converts are mostly peaceful .. all the nu jobs are from poor and uneducated back ground .. most born muslims

 

[footmarks]

well many indians are still converting to islam ... and its fast growing religion in europe ..may be mughals are still ruling them secretly ..

Again, at the risk of facing the consequences (trolling) of telling the truth:

When you are killed for not knowing the name of prophet's mother, many would like to convert and save their & their family's lives...that's one way of growing your numbers fast....its "hostile takeover" not conversion....

 

[Jzaib]

Again, at the risk of facing the consequences (trolling) of telling the truth:

When you are killed for not knowing the name of prophet's mother, many would like to convert and save their & their family's lives...that's one way of growing your numbers fast....its "hostile takeover" not conversion....

as i said its still happening without any pressure ..

 

[footmarks]

as i said its still happening without any pressure ..

Huh, Chhinchhpokli

 

[Jzaib]

Huh, Chhinchhpokli

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/world/europe/rise-of-islamic-converts-challenges-france.html?_r=0

Like Lauren Booth, why ARE modern British career women converting to Islam? | Mail Online

i can give u example of celeberties, lengand sports men , scientist and politians ... just read about ..no matter how much u hate islam .doesnt mean it is not the fastest growing religion in the world ..in next two decades europe will have more muslims then christains ..read about it .. it is intresting

 

[SarthakGanguly]

So if Muslims are killed if the do not know the name of a Hindu God and they leave Islam, then its still without pressure, right?

Definition of 'without pressure' is what matters. To some folks - pointing a gun at the head and converting is an act without pressure. No pressure until the bullet hits the brain that is

 

[Jzaib]

So if Muslims are killed if the do not know the name of a Hindu God and they leave Islam, then its still without pressure, right?

i dnt know what is wrong with u .. some nuts job may have done it .. so wife swapping is done by few hindus ..so can i come up with all the hindus swap wives .. dont bad mouth a religion, if some individual in it did somethng bad ..islam didnt allow forcing anyone .. but if some nut jobs do it .. i condem them and God will punish it for their doings

 

[surya kiran]

i dnt know what is wrong with u .. some nuts job may have done it .. so wife swapping is done by few hindus ..so can i come up with all the hindus swap wives .. dont bad mouth a religion, if some individual in it did somethng bad ..islam didnt allow forcing anyone .. but if some nut jobs do it .. i condem them and God will punish it for their doings

My response was to your post where you said it was not forced conversion when people were killed for not knowing someone's mother's name. Hope this clarifies?