Afghan Border police vow to prevent Torkham gate at any cost

[khanz]

we have suffered immensely from TTP rats and afghan drug dealers we need to protect it from further harm and afghan aggression so if putting a gate at the border helps then it will be done and afghanistan can suck it. I guess I can understand their pain though if the gate is invalidating my claim to this beautiful land I'd be annoyed too.

 

[The Sandman]

Than try it...

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Than try it...

one is trying from a paksitani hospital where he is currently admitted to fix his appendix.

 

[The Sandman]

one is trying from a paksitani hospital where is was admitted to fix his appendix.

 

[cranwerkhan]

we should put heavy visa charges for Afghanis and use that money to buy equipment to effectively monitor border.. build the wall and let them pay for it...

 

[-SINAN-]

Bro it's not even a dispute everything to the east of the durand line is ours it's an internal border recognized by everyone in the world other than afghans(that too only mostly among one of their ethnic group-pashtuns) even their best friend India has never questioned the pakistani stance (hell we inherited it from British India after all lol )

Mate, now you are confusing me.....now, if they never had been agreed to recognize the border in their entire history...that would be a whole different case. It doesn't matter if the whole world agrees with you or not.

Let me give you an example.

We have territorial waters dispute with Greece.

The standard width of territorial waters that countries are customarily entitled to has steadily increased in the course of the 20th century: from initially 3 nautical miles (5.6 km) at the beginning of the century, to 6 nautical miles (11 km), and currently 12 nautical miles (22 km). The current value has been enshrined in treaty law by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 1982 (Art.3).
Turkey has refused to become a member of the convention and does not consider itself bound by it. Turkey considers the convention as res inter alios acta, i.e. a treaty that can only be binding to the signing parties but not to others.

Here is your; territorial waterz, EEZ and continental shelf.

As you see it is the ocean doesn't overlapping with anybody, etc...It's like this for the most countries, they increased the width gradually to exploit more resources from the oceans.

However Turkey's case very different and completely disregarded in the UN.

This the 6 miles territorial waters for Greece.

And this is the 12 miles territorial waters for Greece.

As you can see if they increase their territorial waters to 12 miles, Turkish ships can't sail from, it's Northern ports to southern ports without passing Greek waters...As well as it is going to be a set-back for our navy...

- So, we didn't signed this treaty and said we are not part of it and do not recognize it.
- Greece said that they don't care if we recognize it or not and they will extend it to 12 miles.
- We said, if you increase your territorial waters to 12 miles, we accept it as a Casus Belli, and wreck havoc on your country.
- They didn't made any attempts till then.

That's why i'm saying, if they had never recognized the border in any place in the history. It becomes disputed....though, in these kind of disputes, the one who holds the bigger gun, dictates his will on the other......

 

[T-123456]

correction

Northern Alliance thugs .. mainly racist Penjsheris and Tajiks who hate the majority of Afghan population and brutalises them more than than any occupation army has ever done.


please don't identify them as Afghans.. we are facing the minions of warlords and drug racketeers who benefited from American invasion of Afghanistan and have been involved in chaos inside Afghanistan well before the inception of Taliban.

Border police doesnt fall under the rule of the Afghan government?

 

[khanz]

Mate, now you are confusing me.....now, if they never had been agreed to recognize the border in their entire history...that would be a whole different case. It doesn't matter if the whole world agrees with you or not.

Let me give you an example.

We have territorial waters dispute with Greece.

The standard width of territorial waters that countries are customarily entitled to has steadily increased in the course of the 20th century: from initially 3 nautical miles (5.6 km) at the beginning of the century, to 6 nautical miles (11 km), and currently 12 nautical miles (22 km). The current value has been enshrined in treaty law by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 1982 (Art.3).
Turkey has refused to become a member of the convention and does not consider itself bound by it. Turkey considers the convention as res inter alios acta, i.e. a treaty that can only be binding to the signing parties but not to others.

Here is your; territorial waterz, EEZ and continental shelf.

As you see it is the ocean doesn't overlapping with anybody, etc...It's like this for the most countries, they increased the width gradually to exploit more resources from the oceans.

However Turkey's case very different and completely disregarded in the UN.

This the 6 miles territorial waters for Greece.

And this is the 12 miles territorial waters for Greece.

As you can see if they increase their territorial waters to 12 miles, Turkish ships can't sail from, it's Northern ports to southern ports without passing Greek waters...As well as it is going to be a set-back for our navy...

- So, we didn't signed this treaty and said we are not part of it and do not recognize it.
- Greece said that they don't care if we recognize it or not and they will extend it to 12 miles.
- We said, if you increase your territorial waters to 12 miles, we accept it as a Casus Belli, and wreck havoc on your country.
- They didn't made any attempts till then.

That's why i'm saying, if they had never recognized the border in any place in the history. It becomes disputed....though, in these kind of disputes, the one who holds the bigger gun, dictates his will on the other......

Maritime issues is completely different though turkey had a legit reason because this is restricting them-afghans only want to seize pakistani territory and see it's destruction .
Pakistan on the other hand never inhibited them in any way. Infact we often bent over backwards to accommodate their requests until recently due to afghan agressions our border was so relaxed it was an open border and afghans could move back an forth into pakistan freely whenever they wanted-In early days of pakistan nwfp as it was known back then chose to join pakistan and there is also more than 36+ million pashtun in pakistan that's more than the entire afghanistan population who have no interest in joining them .Their claim is void imagine if lets say for example Iran did not accept the international land border with you and wanted half of turkey till mediterranean sea claiming previous borders of persian empire and kurds being classed as iranic people .Everyone would find it ridiculous .

 

[Signalian]

During Pervez Musharraf's regime, Pakistan had installed a bio-metric system at the Pak-Afghan border which the Afghan side had objected to.

The system has been intact at the border for almost eight years, but it is yet to be made functional.

 

[mingle]

During Pervez Musharraf's regime, Pakistan had installed a bio-metric system at the Pak-Afghan border which the Afghan side had objected to.

The system has been intact at the border for almost eight years, but it is yet to be made functional.

Afghans agreed over gate issue .Now onwards if Pak want to fence whole Border it is possible .

 

[Signalian]

Afghans agreed over gate issue .Now onwards if Pak want to fence whole Border it is possible .

Washington is backing a plan to build a 1,500-mile fence along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan to prevent Islamic insurgents and drug smugglers slipping between the two countries.
http://www.webcitation.org/6RKrFdJLk


Maj-Gen Athar Abbas, the spokesman for the army, told Dawn: “We did fence around 35km of the border area as it faced continuous militant incursions. It was a joint project of Isaf and Afghanistan. But then they backed out. It was a very costly project.”
http://www.webcitation.org/6RKtZQLwm

The public face of Pakistan Army, the ISPR told BBC that there is a 2,400-km-long border between the two countries and this whole stretch cannot be manned, therefore, fencing is being considered.
The measure was then denounced by the Afghan government, the Nato/Isaf forces and the people living on both sides as they said it would divide the population living on both sides of the border.
http://www.webcitation.org/6RKtRZlMP

Do you see the trend?