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Afghan authorities should apologize or 'Bab-e-Dosti' gate will remain closed: Pakistan

Had you been next door neighbours you would been even more worst than to us, reality bites.

I see, It would be pointless- I sincerely apologize to bring in Hads and Shoulds, I was simply trying to reply that member of my perspective upon the issue- There is no point in further discussing Hads and Shoulds and Woulds-
 
Just like current Afghani's are doing? Not insulting us? Okay.
I am not responsible for other people actions.
The reason situation is hostile towards Pakistan and positive towards India is because Pakistan foreign policy in Afghanistan failed.

Afghans are fighting an insurgency. A lot people are dying. A lot of innocent people. When you see that leadership of that insurgency lives in Pakistan you don't just start appreciating that. Mullah Omar died in Pakistan. Mullah Mansor traveled to Iran on Pakistani passport and got killed in Pakistan. When Taliban leadership flies to Qatar for meeting they fly from Pakistan and so on. You gotta see both side of the picture.
 
I am not responsible for other people actions.
The reason situation is hostile towards Pakistan and positive towards India is because Pakistan foreign policy in Afghanistan failed.

Afghans are fighting an insurgency. A lot people are dying. A lot of innocent people. When you see that leadership of that insurgency lives in Pakistan you don't just start appreciating that. Mullah Omar died in Pakistan. Mullah Mansor traveled to Iran on Pakistani passport and got killed in Pakistan. When Taliban leadership flies to Qatar for meeting they fly from Pakistan and so on. You gotta see both side of the picture.


And do you really think we give a fck??
 
Interesting to see Pakistan's firm stand on this issue. Punishing Afghanistan ( and stopping NATO containers ) for few people burning Pakistani flag. This should send Afghanistan to prioritize her affairs and give importance to connectivity with other neighboring countries.
It wasnt a few people. Afghan soldiers also participated in the desecration of Pakistani flags and they did it right on the border.

I am not responsible for other people actions.
The reason situation is hostile towards Pakistan and positive towards India is because Pakistan foreign policy in Afghanistan failed.

Afghans are fighting an insurgency. A lot people are dying. A lot of innocent people. When you see that leadership of that insurgency lives in Pakistan you don't just start appreciating that. Mullah Omar died in Pakistan. Mullah Mansor traveled to Iran on Pakistani passport and got killed in Pakistan. When Taliban leadership flies to Qatar for meeting they fly from Pakistan and so on. You gotta see both side of the picture.
I understand your point; but do Pakistanis go to the border and burn Afghan flags? Especially after terrorist attacks directed from within Afghanistan such as the APS school massacre that claimed the lives of over a hundred children.

Pakistan is being used by Afghanistan as a uniting factor for a "common enemy". They are using Pakistan as a scapegoat for all its problems and use common hatred of Pakistan to blur sectarian and factional tensions.
 
Talwar e Pakistan
There is absolutely some truth to it. I don't deny that. I understand politics.
But you have to understand Pakistan foreign policy in Afghanistan failed. Even some of the statements from top Pakistani officials.. Like good and bad Talibans. Jihad is valid in Afghanistan, but not In Pakistan. Yes the poltician might use the tactics you mentioned, but there has been enough statements evidence to back their claims as well
 
Afghans are fighting an insurgency. A lot people are dying. A lot of innocent people. When you see that leadership of that insurgency lives in Pakistan you don't just start appreciating that. Mullah Omar died in Pakistan. Mullah Mansor traveled to Iran on Pakistani passport and got killed in Pakistan. When Taliban leadership flies to Qatar for meeting they fly from Pakistan and so on. You gotta see both side of the picture.

And what about TTP that is being treated in government hospitals in Afghanistan after its fighters are injured in operations by Pakistan. From neutral source:

Tribal elders and ordinary residents of Achin, Nazian and Kot testify that fighters from Orakzai and Mohmand agencies belonging to different factions of the TTP have been allowed free movement across the province, as well as treatment in government hospitals.

https://defence.pk/threads/the-isla...-and-where-it-stands-now-in-nangarhar.442230/

And not to forget all the terrorists and insurgents that Afghanistan used against Pakistan long before any Taliban or Mullah Umar.
 
LOL helped us during Afghan war?

Pak establishment was afraid soviet would attack Pakistan as well. The whole country of Pakistan is created on the Idea of religion. Majority extremely religious.

Majority religious? Have you been to Pakistan? Have you seen how people live in urban areas like Islamabad , Karachi , Lahore or any other major city? Have you seen our media?. We have liberals , secularists , religious nutjobs , moderates you will find every type of person here.

Majority religious nutjob would be Afghanistan where women has to wear a burka no matter what or getting stares when she goes out to drive in kabul. No wonder you have moral police and women getting 10 years jail time just because she wanted to marry someone of her own choice.

The term Islamic is just a title when it comes to Pakistan. We are more moderate than most muslim countries when it comes to lifestyle of the people.
 
Majority religious? Have you been to Pakistan? Have you seen how people live in urban areas like Islamabad , Karachi , Lahore or any other major city? Have you seen our media?. We have liberals , secularists , religious nutjobs , moderates you will find every type of person here.

Majority religious nutjob would be Afghanistan where women has to wear a burka no matter what or getting stares when she goes out to drive in kabul. No wonder you have moral police and women getting 10 years jail time just because she wanted to marry someone of her own choice.

The term Islamic is just a title when it comes to Pakistan. We are more moderate than most muslim countries when it comes to lifestyle of the people.

Liberals and seculars make 10 % Remaining are extremely religious.
 
The fact remains that both Afghans and Pakistanis are natural allies. Together there's alot of synergy. United, both nations can and should create a SOLID socio-economic partnership.
 
The fact remains that both Afghans and Pakistanis are natural allies. Together there's alot of synergy. United, both nations can and should create a SOLID socio-economic partnership.

Pakistan and India is natural allies as well. Have so much in common. I don't understand why they don't settle Kashmir issues and start working together.
 
Pakistan and India is natural allies as well. Have so much in common. I don't understand why they don't settle Kashmir issues and start working together.
In short: Akhand Bharat vs Ghazwa-e-Hind.

It has not just to do with Kashmir. It's more ideological and therefore, complex.
 
I am not responsible for other people actions.
The reason situation is hostile towards Pakistan and positive towards India is because Pakistan foreign policy in Afghanistan failed.

Afghans are fighting an insurgency. A lot people are dying. A lot of innocent people. When you see that leadership of that insurgency lives in Pakistan you don't just start appreciating that. Mullah Omar died in Pakistan. Mullah Mansor traveled to Iran on Pakistani passport and got killed in Pakistan. When Taliban leadership flies to Qatar for meeting they fly from Pakistan and so on. You gotta see both side of the picture.
In 2008 TTP attacked from your area and kidnapped 13 Pakistani soldiers, behaded them and played football...
That reason was enough for us to burn thousands of Afghani flags, did we?
While in your case, Pakistan is feeding millions of Afghans without questioning since decades. If Afghans are sent back from just Islamabad/Rwp, 25% of the shops will be closed and freed for new business...
Pakistan also helps you to end your problems by dialogue and in karzai era, its Afghan gov that turned down talibans request for negotiations and same happened in 2016 when US killef talibans Ameer just to sabotage dialogue.
Now about Pakistani CNIC, yeah there is corruption and thousands of NDS personals are Afghans refugees also got the CNIC easily , now things about CNIC are getting better tough....
 
Liberals and seculars make 10 % Remaining are extremely religious.

I am talking about Pakistan not Saudi or Iran:lol:

If you just go by naked eye then even a place like Indonesia is more Islamic than Pakistan. Most of our population is moderate. If you happen to visit any of our urban areas you would know what i am talking about.
 
Does that matter or are you implying that Pakistan will only open borders If Afghans are pro-pakistani ?
i want to say yes
but it was just a deduction from your post
It didn't end But Pakistan seems to leave no stone un-turned to end this- Which may cause severe backlash from people on Both sides of the border-
of course its just Pakistan
but you see i learnt somewhere that it takes two hands to clap
 

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