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Type 022 (NATO codename: Houbei class) FAC
The Type 022 (NATO codename: Houbei class) is the new-generation catamaran (twin-gull) missile fast attack craft (FAC) built for the PLA Navy. The first-of-class (hull number 2209) was launched in April 2004 at the Qiuxin Shipyard based in Shanghai. Six contractors are now involved in the construction of the Type 022, with about 40 hulls delivered by the end of 2007. More hulls are expected in the next few years. The vessel replaces the ageing Type 021 (Huangfeng class) that were commissioned between the late 1960s and early 1980s.

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Design
The Type 022 features a wave-piercing catamaran hull design known as Small Waterplane Area Twin Hull (SWATH). Traditional catamaran hull design provides a large and broad decks, but it has a poor stability in high seas at high speeds. The modified wave-piercing catamaran, with its hull volume in the sea’s surface minimised, becomes very stable even on choppy seas. The bulk of the displacement necessary to keep the ship afloat is located beneath the waves, where it is less affected by wave action, as wave excitation drops exponentially with depth.
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The main disadvantages to the SWATH hull form are that they are expensive than conventional catamaran or mono-hulled ships, requiring a complex control system. The PRC reportedly obtained the SWATH catamaran design from AMD Marine Consulting, a very successful catamaran designer based in Australia. The company has a joint venture company called Sea Bus International based in China, specialising in designing civilian catamarans such as passenger ferries. The SWATH design was allegedly used by Chinese shipbuilding contractors to develop the Type 022 missile FAC.

The Type 022 missile FAC is the world’s first combat catamaran. Although a number of logistic and combat support vessels in the catamaran form were tested in the past, no catamaran has ever been built for direct combat role in the modern naval history. Coincidently, the U.S. Navy is also testing a high-speed, wave-piercing catamaran known as FSF1 ‘Sea Fighter’ for the littoral warfare role.
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The Type 022 is 40m in length, 12m in beam, and 1.5m in draught. The vessel has a full displacement of 220 tonnes. The propulsion includes two diesels rated at 6,865hp and two water jets, giving a maximum speed of 36 knots. The vessel is operated by 12~14 crew.

The design of the Type 022 has been directed to minimise the radar cross-section signature. The hull of the vessel is sloped and the windows all have jagged edges in order to limit the radar reflectivity. The hull carries camouflage paint schemes, which differs slightly according to the areas in which the vessels are deployed. Vessels deployed in northern regions carry a black-grey-blue-white four-colour camouflage, while those in southern region have a much brighter camouflage with mostly white-grey-blue.

Weapon Systems

The vessel is equipped with eight YJ-83 anti-ship missiles housed in two large missile launch complexes at the stern. On the front deck locates a Russian AK-630 30mm close-in weapon system (CIWS) for short-range air defence. There are also two 4-cell tube launchers on the bow deck, possibly for launching decoys/chaffs.

The craft has a single large mask on which a number of unidentified sensors are mounted. A datalink antenna is located between the two missile launch complexes for receiving target information from sea- or air-based sensors, enabling the 'over-the-horizon' strike against surface targets.

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We will have 4 F-22P frigates by 2013. I don't know why Pakistan Navy want additional four F-22P. I would prefer that we should acquire 4 Type 054A frigates rather than more F-22P.

Pakistan also hopes to buy bigger ships with more firepower from China, such as 4,000 ton class frigates.
 
tomahawk brother i dont like the ship which u have posted the pic of it looks not that well equiped and dont have speed to me might be im wrong why not pakistan buy destroyers from china
 
tomahawk brother i dont like the ship which u have posted the pic of it looks not that well equiped and dont have speed to me might be im wrong why not pakistan buy destroyers from china

Brother it is just a FAC; we can't compare it with a destroyer or frigate. Type 022 was been being discussed above that is why i posted the pics.
In my opinion Pakistan should go for Type 054A frigates; it would be a great boast if PN requests China Type 054A with C-602 missiles instead of C-803 missiles to counter Brahmos threat by India's Modified Krivak III Class.
Just to mention again that Pakistan has already received 120 C-602 missiles from China.
 
Are we getting the type 022 fac ? or we just have interest in it for now?
 
chines FAC colour scame is horrible but boat look advance,PN need to show chinese how to do paint job or they can learn from west.
 
The F22P is pretty much armed like the Type 054A. The CIWS is slightly different, and the 054A carries VL HQ16 SAM whereas the F22P carrier conventionally launched HQ7 SAM. If there is anything to be had from te 054A, it has to be in the area of SAM and of sensors.

Sure, look at it; just look at these pictures: HQ-7 (FM90N on F-22P) can be fired "almost" vertically, LOL.

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But seriously, I think for a 2500t-3000t class frigate, some point-defense SAMs should suffice. The VL HQ16 SAM won't fit too well, plus it needs to add dedicated radar equipements, which makes it more expensive. And even it will fit, 2x8 cells missiles are just about it will carry.
 
Type 022 pics:

Yes these pics looks great...are these the ones PN going to manufacture with china...?
if yes! thenthis will inshallah greatly enhance the PN capabilities within its vast coastal territories and to reach anywhere in short time....
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Sorry for not making it clear, it's not vertical launch system though, it's just can be fired from a very high angle. These are the ones that you already have, i.e. FM-90N , as they are installed on 251/252/253 (Zulfiquar/Shamsheer/Saif). It just shows that these missiles, albeit point defense, can be quite versatile, to a certain degree.

First picture was just showing a HQ-7 being fired with a high-angle from a 053H3 frigate (which the F-22P was based on).

The latter two pictures were about a few months ~ 1 year old, and were taken before 252 PNS Shamsheer was delivered.
 
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Sure, look at it; just look at these pictures: HQ-7 (FM90N on F-22P) can be fired "almost" vertically, LOL.

But seriously, I think for a 2500t-3000t class frigate, some point-defense SAMs should suffice. The VL HQ16 SAM won't fit too well, plus it needs to add dedicated radar equipements, which makes it more expensive. And even it will fit, 2x8 cells missiles are just about it will carry.

Yes, very funny. But not at the same rate of fire against targets coming in from different directions, which is what a VL system is intended to address (and which also mean the ship needs adequate radar firedirectors [for CLOS missile] or illuminators [for SRAH missiles] for such a threat).
 
Being a pakistani, I dislike, that sometime pakistani military officials got opportunity to have some better equipment but they don't consider such opportunities. Integration of long range air defence system is very important for surviviablity of F-22P.

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Here is picture integrated with aster-30 air defence missel with 16 Cells. F-22 P has a Displacement: 2,500 tonnes and full loaded 3,144 tonnes, may be by doing some changes, if not 16 Cell system may be integration of 6 or 5 Cell based long range air defence system with automatic loading sytem possilbe.
 
Sorry for not making it clear, it's not vertical launch system though, it's just can be fired from a very high angle. These are the ones that you already have, i.e. FM-90N , as they are installed on 251/252/253 (Zulfiquar/Shamsheer/Saif). It just shows that these missiles, albeit point defense, can be quite versatile, to a certain degree.

First picture was just showing a HQ-7 being fired with a high-angle from a 053H3 frigate (which the F-22P was based on).

The latter two pictures were about a few months ~ 1 year old, and were taken before 252 PNS Shamsheer was delivered.

Yes! I agree to u its launch angle can be increased or decreased in almost any direction above surface...Thnx
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Look at specification of HA-7 missel. Isn't it a less potent system.

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Single shot hit probability: 70~80%
Operating altitude: 30~5,000 m (HQ-7/FM-80); 15~6,000 m (FM-90)

That's mean if u are operating an aircraft above that altitude F-22P is sitting duck.
 
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