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‘Absolutely No Mercy’: Leaked Files Expose How China Organized Mass Detentions of Muslims

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Just say it. NYT is God.

You want to argue about right and wrong? Tell me where the NYT was when Iraqis were being butchered at the hands of US soldiers and militias? Where was the NYT when Syrians were being bombarded and killed by Western forces.

Don't lecture us about morality. These colonizing leeches are not examples of decent morality.

China might have a thousand issues, but it is heads and shoulders above Western hypocrites. You cannot use NYT as a source to judge China. End of story.
Every one is a liar and it's Western propaganda.are you that blind that you cannot see what Chinese are doing to people who married pakistanies are these Pakistani partners too part of the propaganda.
 
You want to argue about right and wrong? Tell me where the NYT was when Iraqis were being butchered at the hands of US soldiers and militias? Where was the NYT when Syrians were being bombarded and killed by Western forces.

Don't lecture us about morality. These colonizing leeches are not examples of decent morality.

China might have a thousand issues, but it is heads and shoulders above Western hypocrites. You cannot use NYT as a source to judge China. End of story.

Nauzbillah. Please don't say blasphemous things like that.

I mentioned several sources even the head of our beloved Muslim country who believe that Chinese are oppressing Uighurs, it's not just NYT. In fact, i have been posting whatever little information comes out about this and even posted about Indonesian or Malaysian envoy that visited Xinjiang and said the same thing.

As far as Iraqi WMDs are concerned, can't you see the difference between that and what's going on in Xinjiang? The source of WMDs was US alone, to my knowledge no Muslims believed that nonsense and it happened so fast, it all felt orchestrated. This Xinjiang issue has multiple sources, has been going on for years and there's nobody who wants to exploit it. Independent journalists, Arabs, Pakistanis, Malaysians, Turks, which nationality do you want me to name that hasn't exposed China?. America has no interest in invading China, if it did, the "proofs" that would come out wouldn't be this weak $hit. As worst as US is, there's still justice there and they speak the truth once in a while.

Also don't ever forget that Saddam Hussain was a vicious dictator who didn't do his country any good and sorry to say but he had it coming.

As a Muslim, i believe that tyranny can't survive for long whether it's done by a Muslim or Kuffar. Saddam Hussain was a tyrannical ruler, Afghanistani Talibans were tyrannical, they had it coming. This is the divine law and the innocents become casualties too. The same would happen to China InshaAllah if it doesn't desist.

Does anyone remember the reign of terror the Mongols had? What pathetic humiliating end did they have?

Anyhow, one wrong doesn't justify another. I reiterate again.
 
Every one is a liar and it's Western propaganda.are you that blind that you cannot see what Chinese are doing to people who married pakistanies are these Pakistani partners too part of the propaganda.

LOL now the Indian who cusses Pakistan in every other topic has joined the party.

No, we are not going to hate China because you say so. China is our ally and you're going to have to live with that fact for the rest of your miserable life.
 
Where were your concerns when the Americans were raping and murdering Muslims at Abu Ghraib?

:cheers: Speak the truth, brother.

Same West who is absolutely silent on Kashmir genocide, yet overblowing Uyghur issue. Hypocrites.

We don't talk to terrorists for 17 years, now begging Taliban for talks for 2 years.

Never trust a word they say.

Learn the history of Native Americans and Blacks.
 
Even if you consider it as irrelevent can you please answer.

  • ummah and trans-national Islam?
  • nation state and Pakistani nationalism?

Nation state and Pakistani nationalism I am sick of tired of folks trying to prove they are Arab,Turks,Iranians etc and siding with those countries on their issues and stop being the poor country we should not be poor wtf is wrong with us

China is one of big ally states for weapons economic investments and juggernaut up our nose we cant afford another billion sized country become hostile when we got another billion sized country enemy in the east
 
Sometime somewhere a conversation takes place:

Anonymous person: I haven’t seen any Uighur stories published recently, what’s happening?
Editor in chief: Sir, we cannot run the same story over and over. People figured out that they are not real and not newsworthy. It is kind of hurting our readership. Our peers have not been running them lately.
AP: I got something that is gold. A internal training document from Xingji, China.
EIC: Let me see it. Um... is it genuine? It doesn’t look like real government document, no seal mark or anything.
AP: My source said they retyped it.’, anyway it doesn’t matter.
EIC: It is in Chinese and I cannot read it.
AP: You must have someone who can read Chinese. Let them translate it.
EIC: Ok, I think Joe can. He is Chinese.

A moment later, Joe came into the office.
EIC: Joe, I want you to drop everything and have a look at this document. Can you translate it for me and tell me whether there’s anything newsworthy. Oh no it is ok. No NDA is required here.
Joe: um sir, I left China when I was 4 so my reading isn’t that good, but I can give it a go.

After sometime later:
Joe: I have read the first couple pages. Basically it is just a training document for government staff, it cannot see any issues or news here.
AP ( jump up): what do you mean there is no news. Just add some sensational words, something like police/crackdown/suppress/genocide, put them in the English version, just make it a big news. No one can read Chinese like these alien Chinese, everyone is going to read English part that you are in full control.
EIC: People aren’t that easy to fool these days, they may use translation App and will tell that we have fudged the words. It is kind of making us look bad. We are a reputable paper in town.
AP: Most of people will only read the headlines and that’s all we need. No one is going to be bothered to verify them. Putting it on the front page, or I find someone else to do it.
EIC: No no, that is fine. I am onto it. Front page.
:coffee:
 
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LOL now the Indian who cusses Pakistan in every other topic has joined the party.

No, we are not going to hate China because you say so. China is our ally and you're going to have to live with that fact for the rest of your miserable life.
We know you don't have a choice to hate what China is doing,you can s**kup all you want and we don't care.be a man enough to reply on topic.you said it's Western propaganda and I asked are the pakistanies who's wife are in jail for being Muslim in China and when those Pakistanies say what's happening is that too part of propaganda
 
Sometime somewhere a conversation takes place:

Anonymous person: I haven’t seen any Uighur stories published recently, what’s happening?
Editor in chief: Sir, we cannot run the same story over and over. People figured out that they are not real and not newsworthy. It is kind of hurting our readership. Our peers have not been running them lately.
AP: I got something that is gold. A internal training document from Xingji, China.
EIC: Let me see it. Um... is it genuine? It doesn’t look like real government document, no seal mark or anything.
AP: My source said they retyped it.’, anyway it doesn’t matter.
EIC: It is in Chinese and I cannot read it.
AP: You must have someone who can read Chinese. Let them translate it.
EIC: Ok, I think Joe can. He is Chinese.

A moment later, Joe came into the office.
EIC: Joe, I want you to drop everything and have a look at this document. Can you translate it for me and tell me whether there’s anything newsworthy. Oh no it is ok. No NDA is required here.
Joe: um sir, I left China when I was 4 so my reading isn’t that good, but I can give it a go.

After sometime later:
Joe: I have read the first couple pages. Basically it is just a training document for government staff, it cannot see any issues or news here.
AP ( jump up): what do you mean there is no news. Just add some sentimental words, something like police/crackdown/suppress, tweak them in the English version, just make it a big news. No one can read Chinese like these alien Chinese, everyone is going to read English part that you are in full control.
EIC: People aren’t that easy to fool these days, they may use translation App and will tell that we have fudged the words. It is kind of making us look bad. We are a reputable paper in town.
AP: Most of people will only read the headlines and that’s all we need. No one is going to be bothered to verify them. Putting it on the front page, or I find someone else to do it.
EIC: No no, that is fine. I am onto it. Front page.
:coffee:

You nipped western/foreign NGO in the bud (because you dont take them on good faith being fellow "democracy" or fellow "religion" like some others do) by simply never allowing them in to set up, thus they resort to other ways to achieve their master's goals when master cannot permeate in usual way and certain pressure (elsewhere) develops from that.

I'm not giving clean chit to China, every country has problems and troubles, no one is perfect, not even close....but over time I have seen how western NGOs operate and start certain activities (and get entrenched with help from politicians and every chip on shoulder agenda mob type out there that the can gather)...and I can very well ascertain what the next layer above them start to do if they dont have this bottom feeder NGO "feedback + control" level deployed.

For forum purpose though, for most people its just simplest to take a full black or white side...so things certainly get very repetitive here.
 
On Topic:

For my Pakistani bros/sis, living abroad or not, watch this:

This is the same youtube scholar who rejects hadith on Ghazwa Hind. I never heard of him before Yotube kept recommending him to me after watching lectures from Orya Maqbool Jan, Dr. Shahid Masood, Tariq Jameel, and Dr. Israr Ahmad.

If you have any further information on this guy, can you share it?

@Dubious @waz @Horus and other Mods,

Indian commenting brigade is back to troll is after running away after PAF game a bloody nose to IAF in Feb.
 
Oberblowing Uighur issue’.... woah explain that to me ...these Muslims are being raped, tortured, detained in their millions and you think it’s being ‘overblown’?

I am still looking for proof from a neutral source, haven't found any.

Most claims are exaggerated and sensationalized, something we also observed directly in American propaganda warfare leading to invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, sanctions against Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, and the attempted/completed coups and regime changes in Venezuela, Brazil, Bolivia, Guatemala, Turkey. Egypt, Sudan, and Hungary.
 
Is there any doubt left now that China is re-enacting a Jewish holocaust on Muslims and following the footsteps of Hitler?

This genocide of Muslims must stop at once!

Most of this rubbish is coming from American influencers and American media. All of a sudden, USA is so concerned about Chinese Muslims.

USA is a country that in the last decade and a half, has bombed a dozen Muslim countries. In the Middle East, with its henchman of Middle East in tow, it has attacked Muslim countries without provocation. These wars has displaced million of Syrians, killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq, Syria, Libya. It has imposed crippling sanctions on Iran when Iran was complying with a long deliberated JCPOA.

When Americans says anything about Chinese Muslims or when you hear anything from their local toadies on social media, dont trust a single word.
 
Beware of Jews/American snake lies, they want Muslims to do their bidding of destroying their biggest foe/China. To killed 2 birds with a stone.

Destroyed Muslims and China. And they are no shortage of lackeys doing the jews/american wish.
 
I am still looking for proof from a neutral source, haven't found any.

Most claims are exaggerated and sensationalized, something we also observed directly in American propaganda warfare leading to invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, sanctions against Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, and the attempted/completed coups and regime changes in Venezuela, Brazil, Bolivia, Guatemala, Turkey. Egypt, Sudan, and Hungary.

I agree that the west is complete sh!t. But the difference is that the western propaganda was busted by western media. It was western media that brought down the most powerful man on earth in Richard Nixon. It is western media that is exposing trump now.

China does not allow such free thought and speech, so you can say "exaggerated" but based on what?
We have no free media in China to reliably give us the truth.
 
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