Now you knows?
A lot of members from ph, vn and india jumps onto japs bandwagon asap though. what a pity.
A lot of members from ph, vn and india jumps onto japs bandwagon asap though. what a pity.
Abe Denies Japan Invaded Asian Neighbors in WWWII
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well, Japanese are extremely practical. You beat the crap out of them and they would not hesitate becoming your pet. I dare Abe claim that Japan never attacked Pearl Harbor. They have not changed a bit since WWII except when dealing with US, the same evil lurks in Japan only waiting for another chance.
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in a way they are lucky, the japanese never got a chance to do even a portion of what they did to the chinese/koreans, to the americans, thus the US has no deep grained hatred that gets worst every time the japanese does things like visiting the shrines whitewash text books, or deny massacres/force prostitution/human biological testing. they are lucky it was/is the US that occupies their home islands, if it were the chinese, the bombs wouldnt have stopped at 2.
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Yes and you would have done to the Japanese what they did to China, much the same as Russia did to Germany and you would have found that the horror of a crime is not lessened by repeating it.
The little daughter’s on the mattress,
Dead. How many have been on it
A platoon, a company perhaps?
A girl’s been turned into a woman,
A woman turned into a corpse.
It's all come down to simple phrases:
Do not forget! Do not forgive!
Blood for blood! A tooth for a tooth!
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Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe cheers for Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko during a ceremony in Tokyo on April 28. Photo: AP
Abe's call sparks anger both home and abroad
05-02-2013 17:02 BJT
http://english.cntv.cn—Text and Video
Japan’s Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, has surprised and outraged many by leading the cry of "Long Live the Emperor" to mark what the country calls "Sovereignty Day". Long Live the Emperor, was used as a battle cry in World War Two.
Japanese media reported on Wednesday that both the ruling party and opposition parties have expressed their dissatisfaction. The Tokyo Shimbun newspaper said Abe’s call reminded Okinawa residents of the war.
Local media in Okinawa said the residents felt uncomfortable over Abe’s action, and said it lacked consideration. South Korea and the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea also condemned the action.
Japan’s Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga told the press on Tuesday that the ceremony should have ended after Abe made the closing speech. He said Abe’s call was not on the schedule. But in the video released on the official government website, Abe’s call has been cut to "long live", without "the Emperor".
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Last week, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ticked off people in South Korea and China. This weekend, he hung out with nerds and got in a tank.
Japan’s Leader Appeals To Geeks With A Military Tank
BRIAN ASHCRAFT 30 APRIL 2013 5:00 AM
Japan’s popular video channel, hosted a big meetup this past Saturday and Sunday, celebrating the country’s internet and geek culture. It seemed like an unlikely place for Japanese politics and the military. It wasn’t.
Controversy recently arose in South Korea and China after a Yasukuni Shrine visit by over a 150 Japanese politicians and three members of Abe’s cabinet. Yasukuni Shrine honours over two million of the country’s war dead, including fourteen Class A war criminals.
Some people in Japan support politicians visiting the shrine on the grounds that they are honouring the war dead. Others say the visits are just not worth the diplomatic headaches they cause with neighbouring countries, which still carry resentment over Japanese actions in World War II.
Note that Japan has issued numerous apologies for war crimes since the 1950s; however, there are arguments that these statements are not “official” apologies, even though Japanese leaders have repeatedly made them.
“It’s only natural to honour the spirits of those who gave their lives for the country,” said Abe (via WSJ). “Our ministers will not cave in to any threats.” Abe also believes that “chipping away” at its right to honour the country’s fallen soldiers will not improve diplomacy between Japan and its neighbours. Maybe, but it’s certainly not helping.
What further complicates the issue is that Yasukuni Shrine is a Shinto shrine, making this a religious issue, too. Enshrinement is thought to be irreversible, and you can’t just take those Class A war criminals out per se.
Elsewhere in Asia, visiting the shrine is seen as ignoring Japan’s military past. Japan, however, is now a pacifist nation. Under the Japanese Constitution, Article 9 states that Japan cannot use military force to settle disputes and renounces war as a “sovereign right”. Japan does have a military, called the Japan Force; US military bases are also located within the country. Prime Minister Abe has expressed interest in re-writing Article 9 so that it expands Japan’s military powers.
At this weekend’s NicoNico event, Abe talked about the importance of the internet in Japanese politics and, decked out in camo, got in one of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries’ Type-10 tanks.
Near the Japan Force and US Forces booth, the tank was on display for cosplayers and NicoNico attendees to take photos with. Thanks to the popularity of tank-based anime Girls und Panzer, the Type-10′s inclusion, oddly, doesn’t seem totally out of place.
In the past decade, Japan has had a string of Prime Ministers. Many of them have been incredibly weak. Abe is trying to show strength, whether that’s through the country’s economy or the military. Not everyone in Japan agrees with Abe or wants expanded military powers. Abe’s first tenure in office, which was from 2006 to 2007, soured after he expressed desire for increased military power.
More popular than ever, Abe does have his supporters, online and off. And as last December showed, geek culture and politics certainly can mix in Japan. Don’t be surprised if they continued to do so.
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Last week, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ticked off people in South Korea and China. This weekend, he hung out with nerds and got in a tank.
Japan’s Leader Appeals To Geeks With A Military Tank
BRIAN ASHCRAFT 30 APRIL 2013 5:00 AM
Japan’s popular video channel, hosted a big meetup this past Saturday and Sunday, celebrating the country’s internet and geek culture. It seemed like an unlikely place for Japanese politics and the military. It wasn’t.
Controversy recently arose in South Korea and China after a Yasukuni Shrine visit by over a 150 Japanese politicians and three members of Abe’s cabinet. Yasukuni Shrine honours over two million of the country’s war dead, including fourteen Class A war criminals.
Some people in Japan support politicians visiting the shrine on the grounds that they are honouring the war dead. Others say the visits are just not worth the diplomatic headaches they cause with neighbouring countries, which still carry resentment over Japanese actions in World War II.
Note that Japan has issued numerous apologies for war crimes since the 1950s; however, there are arguments that these statements are not “official” apologies, even though Japanese leaders have repeatedly made them.
“It’s only natural to honour the spirits of those who gave their lives for the country,” said Abe (via WSJ). “Our ministers will not cave in to any threats.” Abe also believes that “chipping away” at its right to honour the country’s fallen soldiers will not improve diplomacy between Japan and its neighbours. Maybe, but it’s certainly not helping.
What further complicates the issue is that Yasukuni Shrine is a Shinto shrine, making this a religious issue, too. Enshrinement is thought to be irreversible, and you can’t just take those Class A war criminals out per se.
Elsewhere in Asia, visiting the shrine is seen as ignoring Japan’s military past. Japan, however, is now a pacifist nation. Under the Japanese Constitution, Article 9 states that Japan cannot use military force to settle disputes and renounces war as a “sovereign right”. Japan does have a military, called the Japan Force; US military bases are also located within the country. Prime Minister Abe has expressed interest in re-writing Article 9 so that it expands Japan’s military powers.
At this weekend’s NicoNico event, Abe talked about the importance of the internet in Japanese politics and, decked out in camo, got in one of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries’ Type-10 tanks.
Near the Japan Force and US Forces booth, the tank was on display for cosplayers and NicoNico attendees to take photos with. Thanks to the popularity of tank-based anime Girls und Panzer, the Type-10′s inclusion, oddly, doesn’t seem totally out of place.
In the past decade, Japan has had a string of Prime Ministers. Many of them have been incredibly weak. Abe is trying to show strength, whether that’s through the country’s economy or the military. Not everyone in Japan agrees with Abe or wants expanded military powers. Abe’s first tenure in office, which was from 2006 to 2007, soured after he expressed desire for increased military power.
More popular than ever, Abe does have his supporters, online and off. And as last December showed, geek culture and politics certainly can mix in Japan. Don’t be surprised if they continued to do so.
Well, Xi Jinping was inspecting a SSBN, since a tiny tank is nothing compared to a SSBN with close to a hundred thermonuclear warheads.
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Tokyo protesters say no to amending constitution
Fri, 03 May 2013 8:21p.m.
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe (Reuters)
Hundreds of Japanese, young and old, gathered in downtown Tokyo in a peaceful protest against calls by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to amend the country's pacifist constitution and give the government more power to abridge civil liberties.
Opposition parties, labour groups, religious organisations and individuals turned out Friday to march from a park near the Imperial Palace through the Ginza shopping district, beating drums and chanting their opposition to such moves by Abe and the ruling Liberal Democratic Party.
Supporters of amending the constitution want to change the requirement that constitutional amendments win two-thirds approval in both houses of parliament before they are put to a national referendum. They want that changed to simple majority approvals in parliament.
Opponents say such changes could allow the government to undermine civil liberties.
Fri, 03 May 2013 8:21p.m.
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe (Reuters)
Hundreds of Japanese, young and old, gathered in downtown Tokyo in a peaceful protest against calls by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to amend the country's pacifist constitution and give the government more power to abridge civil liberties.
Opposition parties, labour groups, religious organisations and individuals turned out Friday to march from a park near the Imperial Palace through the Ginza shopping district, beating drums and chanting their opposition to such moves by Abe and the ruling Liberal Democratic Party.
Supporters of amending the constitution want to change the requirement that constitutional amendments win two-thirds approval in both houses of parliament before they are put to a national referendum. They want that changed to simple majority approvals in parliament.
Opponents say such changes could allow the government to undermine civil liberties.
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Abe wants to change Japan’s constitution
12/22/2012 By majiroxnews
A change of government in Japan could lead to a change in the country’s pacifist constitution, which was written by the American occupation authorities following the Second World War, and has basically remained unchanged since then. However, there are internal obstacles to be overcome should the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, Shinzo Abe, wish to amend the relevant Article 9, which renounces the use of force as a way of settling international disputes.
TOKYO (majirox news) — Japan’s constitution states in Article 9 that “Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.” However, Shinzo Abe, almost certainly Japan’s next Prime Minister following the recent election, has stated he wishes to change this, to allow for at least collective self-defense and the establishment of armed forces.
Since a constitutional amendment requires a two-thirds majority in both houses of the Diet, followed by a simple majority in a referendum, Abe may find it hard to make the change, especially since his party’s principal ally, New Komeito, is against such alterations.
“The effect of passing the amendment will be immense,” claims Kuniko Tanioka, lawmaker of Japan’s Upper House of Parliament. “The situation in East Asia will become so tense for the countries nearby, including China and South Korea. I cannot think of any good outcome by passing it.”
Political analysts say that for such an amendment to be passed, Abe must link to a more right-wing group, such as Shintaro Ishihara’s Restoration Party, which has likewise been pushing for a greater military role for Japan, and which gained the third largest number of seats in the recent election.
Though some agree with this, others feel that the change is not desirable, and that Japan should retain its pacifist anti-war stance.
Tomoko Kurosu, a secretary said, “I haven’t decided yet if I support it yet or not. Once the government discloses the details of the amendment and discusses how it will affect Japan, including our neighbors, then I will decide.”
Taro Takanaka, a retired businessman, says, “The time has come to talk about it. Personally, I don’t agree with Kunio Tanioka and don’t believe it would lead to a military confrontation with China.”
However, the economy was the big selling point for most Japanese voters, and if Abe concentrates on what many see as a side-issue, he will come under severe criticism, particularly from his big-business backers, who are relying on him to kick the economy into life. If he decides to push ahead with this, some commentators say he must act fast, using the inertia of the election to push the change through.
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12/22/2012 By majiroxnews
A change of government in Japan could lead to a change in the country’s pacifist constitution, which was written by the American occupation authorities following the Second World War, and has basically remained unchanged since then. However, there are internal obstacles to be overcome should the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, Shinzo Abe, wish to amend the relevant Article 9, which renounces the use of force as a way of settling international disputes.
TOKYO (majirox news) — Japan’s constitution states in Article 9 that “Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.” However, Shinzo Abe, almost certainly Japan’s next Prime Minister following the recent election, has stated he wishes to change this, to allow for at least collective self-defense and the establishment of armed forces.
Since a constitutional amendment requires a two-thirds majority in both houses of the Diet, followed by a simple majority in a referendum, Abe may find it hard to make the change, especially since his party’s principal ally, New Komeito, is against such alterations.
“The effect of passing the amendment will be immense,” claims Kuniko Tanioka, lawmaker of Japan’s Upper House of Parliament. “The situation in East Asia will become so tense for the countries nearby, including China and South Korea. I cannot think of any good outcome by passing it.”
Political analysts say that for such an amendment to be passed, Abe must link to a more right-wing group, such as Shintaro Ishihara’s Restoration Party, which has likewise been pushing for a greater military role for Japan, and which gained the third largest number of seats in the recent election.
Though some agree with this, others feel that the change is not desirable, and that Japan should retain its pacifist anti-war stance.
Tomoko Kurosu, a secretary said, “I haven’t decided yet if I support it yet or not. Once the government discloses the details of the amendment and discusses how it will affect Japan, including our neighbors, then I will decide.”
Taro Takanaka, a retired businessman, says, “The time has come to talk about it. Personally, I don’t agree with Kunio Tanioka and don’t believe it would lead to a military confrontation with China.”
However, the economy was the big selling point for most Japanese voters, and if Abe concentrates on what many see as a side-issue, he will come under severe criticism, particularly from his big-business backers, who are relying on him to kick the economy into life. If he decides to push ahead with this, some commentators say he must act fast, using the inertia of the election to push the change through.
Observers are predicting an increased Coast Guard presence around disputed Diaoyu (Senkaku) Islands **.
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Most Japanese Want Constitution Revised
May 5, 2013, 10:35 a.m. ET
By TAKASHI MOCHIZUKI
TOKYO—More than half of the Japanese public believes the nation's postwar constitution should be changed, according to polls released as the country marked Constitutional Memorial Day.
The new polls come as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe steps up his program to change the way the constitution is amended, an increasingly divisive issue that also brought out demonstrations from both supporters and opponents of revisions. The current constitution was drafted by Allied occupation forces in 1947 and has never been amended.
At the heart of the debate is whether Japan should change Article 9, under which the nation has no armed forces beyond a self-defense force. Proponents of change say that armed forces are a component of virtually all other major countries. Opponents, both domestically and internationally, say that it could return Japan to what they see as its militarist past.
The opposition has been especially vocal in Korea and China.
"Given the Japanese government's refusal to apologize for Japan's aggression during World War II, the revision of Japan's constitution…is a cause for concern for the rest of the world," the China Daily's Tokyo bureau chief said in a commentary in March.
Among the various polls in local media Friday, the Nikkei newspaper found that 56% said they thought the constitution should be changed. The daily said that 28% of respondents didn't think it should be changed, marking the first time in eight years that this figure has dipped below 30%.
The gap has widened since the Nikkei posed the same question in April 2012, when 53% of those polled supported a revision and 33% were opposed.
Another poll by the Mainichi Shimbun showed similar sentiment among the public, with 60% supporting constitutional reform and 32% opposed.
But the new poll results don't necessarily demonstrate support for the prime minister's proposals.
While Mr. Abe has in recent days talked more openly about changing Article 9 regarding the military, the majority of respondents to the Nikkei survey said that they were looking at different types of reform.
Asked to give reasons for amending the constitution, it said that 54% of respondents wanted to see the parliamentary system, built on two chambers, changed, while just 38% said Article 9 should be rewritten.
Both advocates and opponents of changes to the constitution held separate events Friday.
A crowd estimated by organizers at 3,500 gathered at Hibiya Park in central Tokyo to rally against revisions to Article 9 or to changes to the way the constitution is amended.
Meanwhile, the National Assembly to Create a New Constitution—an organization supportive of constitutional changes—held a meeting in Tokyo to discuss the need for such revisions, drawing in more than 400 participants, according to local media.
Mr. Abe has said that he wants to focus on changing Article 96 of the constitution, which states that support from more than two-thirds of both upper and lower houses is necessary to hold a public referendum asking for proposed constitutional changes.
"It doesn't make sense that opposition from a little over one-third of parliament members can put up a complete blockade even if it's the will of the people to change the constitution," Mr. Abe said last month.
While the premier's Liberal Democratic Party has pledged to revise Article 96 so that a simple majority in both houses is necessary for a referendum, the polls show that the public isn't completely on board with the idea.
The Mainichi poll said that 42% of respondents were in favor of a change to Article 96 while 46% were opposed.
Mr. Abe said Sunday that thorough discussion is needed on the constitutional question.
"There has not yet been sufficient public debate. I think we need further discussion and deliberations on the matter," he told reporters.
May 5, 2013, 10:35 a.m. ET
By TAKASHI MOCHIZUKI
TOKYO—More than half of the Japanese public believes the nation's postwar constitution should be changed, according to polls released as the country marked Constitutional Memorial Day.
The new polls come as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe steps up his program to change the way the constitution is amended, an increasingly divisive issue that also brought out demonstrations from both supporters and opponents of revisions. The current constitution was drafted by Allied occupation forces in 1947 and has never been amended.
At the heart of the debate is whether Japan should change Article 9, under which the nation has no armed forces beyond a self-defense force. Proponents of change say that armed forces are a component of virtually all other major countries. Opponents, both domestically and internationally, say that it could return Japan to what they see as its militarist past.
The opposition has been especially vocal in Korea and China.
"Given the Japanese government's refusal to apologize for Japan's aggression during World War II, the revision of Japan's constitution…is a cause for concern for the rest of the world," the China Daily's Tokyo bureau chief said in a commentary in March.
Among the various polls in local media Friday, the Nikkei newspaper found that 56% said they thought the constitution should be changed. The daily said that 28% of respondents didn't think it should be changed, marking the first time in eight years that this figure has dipped below 30%.
The gap has widened since the Nikkei posed the same question in April 2012, when 53% of those polled supported a revision and 33% were opposed.
Another poll by the Mainichi Shimbun showed similar sentiment among the public, with 60% supporting constitutional reform and 32% opposed.
But the new poll results don't necessarily demonstrate support for the prime minister's proposals.
While Mr. Abe has in recent days talked more openly about changing Article 9 regarding the military, the majority of respondents to the Nikkei survey said that they were looking at different types of reform.
Asked to give reasons for amending the constitution, it said that 54% of respondents wanted to see the parliamentary system, built on two chambers, changed, while just 38% said Article 9 should be rewritten.
Both advocates and opponents of changes to the constitution held separate events Friday.
A crowd estimated by organizers at 3,500 gathered at Hibiya Park in central Tokyo to rally against revisions to Article 9 or to changes to the way the constitution is amended.
Meanwhile, the National Assembly to Create a New Constitution—an organization supportive of constitutional changes—held a meeting in Tokyo to discuss the need for such revisions, drawing in more than 400 participants, according to local media.
Mr. Abe has said that he wants to focus on changing Article 96 of the constitution, which states that support from more than two-thirds of both upper and lower houses is necessary to hold a public referendum asking for proposed constitutional changes.
"It doesn't make sense that opposition from a little over one-third of parliament members can put up a complete blockade even if it's the will of the people to change the constitution," Mr. Abe said last month.
While the premier's Liberal Democratic Party has pledged to revise Article 96 so that a simple majority in both houses is necessary for a referendum, the polls show that the public isn't completely on board with the idea.
The Mainichi poll said that 42% of respondents were in favor of a change to Article 96 while 46% were opposed.
Mr. Abe said Sunday that thorough discussion is needed on the constitutional question.
"There has not yet been sufficient public debate. I think we need further discussion and deliberations on the matter," he told reporters.
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They believe that the "China" that got bullied by Nippon during the WWII was the same China as today's PRC, lmao.
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China is not incapable india
Chinese fleet drives out Japan's boats from Diaoyu——Updated: 2013-04-23
Clueless indians only hope the japanese can revenge for them after the 1962 spanking and humiliation
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