Abdali : a hero or villian for Pakistani punjabis?

[jatt+gutts]

Despite the persecution the Afghans did against the Sikhs, but Sikh rule over Punjab is directly linked to Ahmad Shah Abdali's invasion. Before the Afghan invasion, the Mughals and their harsh yet able administrators had contained the Sikhs. But the Afghan invasion completely shattered the Mughal administration and power in Punjab. So much so that it gave the Sikh misls a chance to again unite and fight with even greater vigour. This is similar to how a century earlier, Aurangzeb made the mistake of invading and defeating the Deccan Shia states which had contained the Marathas. But Aurangzeb destroyed those Deccan sultanates and the result was the rise of the Maratha empire which ended up eating up the Mughal empire in the future.

buddy abdali was able to subdue Punjabi for a mere 1 year...Punjab was ruled by Sikh misls before and later until the time ranjit singh took over

 

[bronxbull]

A punjabi a name we given you, dress we given you, you are too stupid to even have a name for your land so we gave it to you.

Damn fool, you ain't no jatt and you ain't got no guts you just a chumar.

really?

i cant imagine pashtuns being so advanced in anything in general.

Ya we even got the bones of one Rajput a coward by the name of prithvi raj chuan and we piss on them everyday.

Yup your victory was such that we never dared to attack the umpa lumpas again.

u talk too much brother,prithviraj chauhan was no coward.

he is a hero and it is because of him we have a great country and u have a opium filled shithole.

We ain't no Arabs we are better then that, we busted you people from the times of Kushans, Huns, Gujjaras, hephtalites, khiljis, Ghurids and so on.

You are destined to be lambs it's not your fault it's your fate.

So when you guys coming to take the bones of the so called great Rajput?.

it is funny u say this in 2014.

 

[SBD-3]

Khada pita lahe da, te baki Ahmed Shahe da!

Pakistanis and their love for foreign looters

Well before the foreigners invaded. Indians themselves were killing each other. remember India was never been a united land until Mughal dynasty.

 

[bronxbull]

Were lambs in from of ghuri, what a massacre we need to repeat it again.

What's a Pathan mr dhoti wearing, tanned umpa lumps please tell me what is Pathan?.

Pathan in today's world means someone who get manipulated by punjabis of pakistan.

Poets live in their own world. This sufi bulleh shah refused to do nikah, he was definately jugi malang type baba who believed that there is no difference between masjid gurdwara and mandir...bulleh shah didnt like it when we went harsh on his hindu and sikh brethren. He should have been thankful that we didnt kill and rape hindus and sikhs....though i believe we afghans should have committed genocide of sikhs.

too late,perhaps u can try changing the name of Haripur in KPK.

 

[dawn_news]

blah blah... bhangra is Sikh culture so is turban. Pakistani Punjabi no one even knew they exist. other than some Punjabi poets of ancient times Pakistani Punjabi contribution is jilch...which resturants you find more in west indian Punjabi or Pakistani..No one give too hoot about arab, pakistani food or central Asian food. they may b good in your Pakistan rest of the world they aint tasteworthy

Lol

All you could come up is lies after befitting reply exposing your sikh propaganda. You give to much importance to your self in India on back of archivements by west punjabi hindus in India. Rest of the world eat and enjoy our food, Indians also serve our food basically. What did you think? That rest of the world is veggie like Indians?

West Punjab has always been cultural center of punjab and only punjab which have any worth. Tiny Indian punjab basically imported every aspect of their life from west punjab, east punjab have 0 contribution in culture and civilization. A from inventing Gidda, congrats

 

[bronxbull]

Tell me who does like eastern punjabis?, your own kind the western punjabis hate you and rejected you to be with us, so why would anyone else like you.

I told you people are too stupid, couldn't even give your own land a name so we named it for you Punjab.



You are making total fool of yourself now, now you claim to be a hephtalite and not native, so what do you think the hephtalites did to the natives?.

Same thing that abdali did so what's the difference?.

hahahaha,where is monkey_dluffy?

Now offence but rajputs became irrelevant and unimportant in 1700s and onwards. Marahatas stole the spotlight and emerged as most powerful empire of 18th century india.
You can insult my race as much as you want as one of my kinseman is insulting your people but we afghans recognized rajputs as worthy opponents with honour....though we didnt have the same impression about lowly sikhs. Pritviraj chauhan was a worthy and brave opponent and we are proud of the fact that at the end we defeated him.


Now offence but rajputs became irrelevant and unimportant in 1700s and onwards. Marahatas stole the spotlight and emerged as most powerful empire of 18th century india.
You can insult my race as much as you want as one of my kinseman is insulting your people but we afghans recognized rajputs as worthy opponents with honour....though we didnt have the same impression about lowly sikhs. Pritviraj chauhan was a worthy and brave opponent and we are proud of the fact that at the end we defeated him.

was mahmud ghauri afghan?

The rajputs/sikhs didn't support the marathas,else abdali ki lag jati.

Lol

All you could come up is lies after befitting reply exposing your sikh propaganda. You give to much importance to your self in India on back of archivements by west punjabi hindus in India. Rest of the world eat and enjoy our food, Indians also serve our food basically. What did you think? That rest of the world is veggie like Indians?

West Punjab has always been cultural center of punjab and only punjab which have any worth. Tiny Indian punjab basically imported every aspect of their life from west punjab, east punjab have 0 contribution in culture and civilization. A from inventing Gidda, congrats

yeah but west punjabi hindus/sikhs are much better than the muslim ones.

it is the people who made lahore/karachi,not others.

Today lahore is nothing as to what it was back then.

I dont understand why people are giving unnecessary auqaat to silly people like ghilzai.

I mean all this guy is proud of is his tribe,regardless of who abdali is and what he did,we are happy to keep pakistan to handle the opium filled afghans.

 

[A Town]

who?

He's talking about me lol.

 

[dawn_news]

hahahaha,where is monkey_dluffy?



was mahmud ghauri afghan?

The rajputs/sikhs didn't support the marathas,else abdali ki lag jati.



yeah but west punjabi hindus/sikhs are much better than the muslim ones.

it is the people who made lahore/karachi,not others.

Today lahore is nothing as to what it was back then.

Today lahore is more clean then any Indian city. It was developed after 47, not before it. There is hardly any west punjabi sikhs or hindus. At best 1-2 million west punjabi hindu khatris who dominate Indian entartaiment on back of their Pakistani looks and racist industries in India.

Punjabi muslim made punjabi literature possible, we developed punjabi language. Sikhs have 0 contribution a part from speaking sikhy version of punjabi.

Lahore/Karachi have come a long way, these cities are not invested by slums or people shitting in open like in indian cities.

 

[A Town]

you can deny..but ist todays populr songs are either Punjabi or punjaicised either in language or beats or way of singing. in west indian food means Punjabi food. people use Punjabi songs in wedding etc...even modi has a slogan chakk day india.. lol

go to sri lanka and none there wear shalwr kamig but even in southern parts of india onecan see women in shalwar kamig

Maybe from a general perspective then yes, Punjabi culture is quite dominant but regional culture is still at the top.

 

[Nassr]

Should have? they did commit genocide against the Sikhs. The biggest massacres of the Sikhs occurred under Afghan rule. Attacked and destroyed the Darbar Sahib in Amritsar more than once. And the Mughals also had committed genocide against the Sikhs, especially under Zakaria Khan, Adina Beg, Mir Mannu and Lakhpat Rai. That's why Sikhs were fighting in the first place. Before that, the Sikhs were a peaceful community in case you didn't know

Should have? they did commit genocide against the Sikhs. The biggest massacres of the Sikhs occurred under Afghan rule. Attacked and destroyed the Darbar Sahib in Amritsar more than once. And the Mughals also had committed genocide against the Sikhs, especially under Zakaria Khan, Adina Beg, Mir Mannu and Lakhpat Rai. That's why Sikhs were fighting in the first place. Before that, the Sikhs were a peaceful community in case you didn't know

 

[jatt+gutts]

Lol

All you could come up is lies after befitting reply exposing your sikh propaganda. You give to much importance to your self in India on back of archivements by west punjabi hindus in India. Rest of the world eat and enjoy our food, Indians also serve our food basically. What did you think? That rest of the world is veggie like Indians?

West Punjab has always been cultural center of punjab and only punjab which have any worth. Tiny Indian punjab basically imported every aspect of their life from west punjab, east punjab have 0 contribution in culture and civilization. A from inventing Gidda, congrats

when people talk about Punjabi culture gidha and bhangra first come to mind.. when people say Punjabi that means Sikh Punjabi.. n nobody go to Pakistani restaurant ever othere than Pakistani themselves.. no matter what gai bhains kutta billi you eat....indian food is at top along with Chinese and italian.even Pakistani call their resturants indo pak cuisine to get customers..indian Punjabi language is growing whereas in Pakistan its decreasing,, b poud of your mugal culture and sing kawalli day n night..we don't care

 

[dawn_news]

when people talk about Punjabi culture gidha and bhangra first come to mind.. when people say Punjabi that means Sikh Punjabi.. n nobody go to Pakistani restaurant ever othere than Pakistani themselves.. no matter what gai bhains kutta billi you eat....indian food is at top along with Chinese and italian.even Pakistani call their resturants indo pak cuisine to get customers..indian Punjabi language is growing whereas in Pakistan its decreasing,, b poud of your mugal culture and sing kawalli day n night..we don't care

No one knows what is Giddha and Bhangra is only famous among sikhs, another invention by us copied by you. Some Pak resutaurants may call it Pak-Indo so people know veggie food is also avaiable. Otherwise Indian restaurant meat taste like shit because hindu/sikhs can't cook it properly.

In India punjabi is not growing, sikhy version speaking sikhs does not mean language is growing. One need great poets for that, unfortunatly all you guys got is work left by our poets. Keep reading and singing them all the time.

Poorbias will soon run over Indian punjab anyway 74% being drug addicts.

 

[Jaggu]

buddy abdali was able to subdue Punjabi for a mere 1 year...Punjab was ruled by Sikh misls before and later until the time ranjit singh took over

True. Before the rise of M. Ranjit Singh, the Punjab (from Indus to Yamuna river) was under Sikh misls. But unfortunately some of our Pakistani brothers are under the false impression that Abdali somehow saved them from Marathas. Marathas only came to Punjab after the Mughals in Punjab were weakened due to repeated Afghan incursion in Punjab. The Mughal Subas of Punjab were thoroughly looted by the Afghans that they(under Adina Beg) requested the Marathas of all people to come to Punjab and rid Punjab of the Afghans. This all happened before the 3rd battle of Panipat.

For the Sikhs his invasions is remembered that it helped the rise of the Sikhs because he destroyed Mughal rule in Punjab. But Abdali was a good general none the less. At the time he was probably the best general of Asia. If he had not led the Afghans, there is no way the Marathas would have lost the 3rd battle of Panipat.

 

[bronxbull]

Today lahore is more clean then any Indian city. It was developed after 47, not before it. There is hardly any west punjabi sikhs or hindus. At best 1-2 million west punjabi hindu khatris who dominate Indian entartaiment on back of their Pakistani looks and racist industries in India.

Punjabi muslim made punjabi literature possible, we developed punjabi language. Sikhs have 0 contribution a part from speaking sikhy version of punjabi.

Lahore/Karachi have come a long way, these cities are not invested by slums or people shitting in open like in indian cities.

You dont know anything at all bro.

I know so many myself.

Most Indian cities are much better than yours,i hear stuff like bombing on the badshahi masjid,open crime.

I know many people from Karachi and i know the ground reality.

dont try to fool me.

Nobody even play cricket matches in pakistan,n u come here with ur gob open?

Today lahore is more clean then any Indian city. It was developed after 47, not before it. There is hardly any west punjabi sikhs or hindus. At best 1-2 million west punjabi hindu khatris who dominate Indian entartaiment on back of their Pakistani looks and racist industries in India.

Punjabi muslim made punjabi literature possible, we developed punjabi language. Sikhs have 0 contribution a part from speaking sikhy version of punjabi.

Lahore/Karachi have come a long way, these cities are not invested by slums or people shitting in open like in indian cities.

yeah and we saw shabaz sharif's urdu filled punjabi,hahahaha.

sikhs have maximum contribution as they stay true to agriculture even now.

And there are so many punjabi people in delhi and otherwise,technocrats/army men and so on.....so many i cant even count.

so,whats ur point?

 

[jatt+gutts]

No one knows what is Giddha and Bhangra is only famous among sikhs, another invention by us copied by you. Some Pak resutaurants may call it Pak-Indo so people know veggie food is also avaiable. Otherwise Indian restaurant meat taste like shit because hindu/sikhs can't cook it properly.

In India punjabi is not growing, sikhy version speaking sikhs does not mean language is growing. One need great poets for that, unfortunatly all you guys got is work left by our poets. Keep reading and singing them all the time.

Poorbias will soon run over Indian punjab anyway 74% being drug addicts.

gidha bhangra is very popular..you guys invented lieing and taking credit of other peoples achievents.