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Ababeel SSM - Pakistan gains MIRV technology.

Altitude matters , not range

more the altitude more time for abm to target the projectile, and higher the altitude steeper the angle which may cause RV burnout . This is why Russia came up with quasi ballistic.

Russian MIRV at test range.
They're not that far apart. And another thing is, it was just a missile test and not an MIRV test. The report said MIRV capable missile was tested. We don't know if multiple warheads were in fact tested.

you definitely missed the other part of MIRV which went the other side and would have fallen at least 200km away.
 
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And how much time India need to track that because NATO can track and response within 6 mins

These days there are technologies which can destroy the missile in the enemy territory itself. The missile has to travel some time to cross the border. Mean time there is enough time for ABM systems.

The MIRV capability comes handy once the missile nears the target.
How much time?

Don't get emotional..what illogical did I say?

Where is logic in it that we can say that is illogical?

Well our radar can detect any launch from your launch pads..
Also you will be releasing 2-3 warheads within range of almost 200 kms which is in our radar range..
All warheads are not launched together from atmosphere..Missile has to change trajectory..It needs time..Our nearest BMDs will already be in action

In real time environment what is Indian response time ?
 
This is called as Psychological warfare. Common people do not understand and are easily swayed by gimmicks. The Dawn or ET are not naive that they do not know defence is as imp as social development. They won't tell who is stopping Gov from making teachers attend schools and stop ghost teachers. Who is stopping gov from taking schools back from being stables for village animals. They won't go there because they won't get paid in overseas accounts by their 'masters'. Maligning defence and working as fifth coloumnists is their job.

Precisely i dont see them thrashing CM punjab on daily basis for acquiring $160 million loan for orange line train for a country that is already in billions of dollars of debt. With 2.3 million children not going to school in punjab most in any province in Pakistan his priority should be giving them free and quality education and get loans for this purpose but instead he's busy making roads, flyovers, underpasses, orange line train while his brother is busy giving metros to Pakistanis
 
That descend speed is almost same for any ballistic missile..
Yes distance is the factor but S400s is made to intercept almost anything but ICBMs..Although it's impossible to intercept after reentry ..
India has ability to detect & intercept even before it goes out of atmosphere..

Main characteristics of the S-400
Max target speed: 4.8 kilometres per second (17,000 km/h; 11,000 mph; Mach 14)
Target detection distance (km) 600
Last I heard ISPR reported of *MIRV CAPABLE* missile. And that's enough to nullify S400 which was a result of few decades of Russian RnD. Damn! I suppose this abdul releases about 100 warheads at a time... definitely someone's uncle's grandson's wife's brother heard something like that from his time in army.

Common guys you are taking characteristic of an ICBM and projecting it for a TBM. This missile dose not even come under IRBM. The warheads once lobbed cannot be distributed very diversly as the bus itself following a balestic trajectory will also reenter the atmosphere.

And yes we know all about the "Classified" RnD Pakistan dose after China announces it will help Pakistan develop newer balistic missiles. Pretty good "RnD"

You are absolutely correct, we have nuclear capable missile doesn't mean that it may have it
 
Precisely i dont see them thrashing CM punjab on daily basis for acquiring $160 million loan for orange line train for a country that is already in billions of dollars of debt. With 2.3 million children not going to school in punjab most in any province in Pakistan his priority should be giving them free and quality education and get loans for this purpose but instead he's busy making roads, flyovers, underpasses, orange line train while his brother is busy giving metros to Pakistanis
Imagine billions spent on useless infrastructure. Even had Pml n spent in ventures that would in longer run make more money it would have made sense but no spending billions to provide working class a fancy ride. Imagine if all that money was spent on schools, universties, HEC and R&D in those universities, hospitals in atleast major Districts. To one holding a hammer everything is a nail. To a lohaar everything is 'sariya'
 
Precisely i dont see them thrashing CM punjab on daily basis for acquiring $160 million loan for orange line train for a country that is already in billions of dollars of debt. With 2.3 million children not going to school in punjab most in any province in Pakistan his priority should be giving them free and quality education and get loans for this purpose but instead he's busy making roads, flyovers, underpasses, orange line train while his brother is busy giving metros to Pakistanis
The government(be it of PML-N or any other party) is to blame for things like u mentioned but the people are equally to blame. There is thus tendency among us to vote on the basis of the work we can SEE that some politician did.
Consider this:
- Person A lives in some area where the road by his house is in shambles.
- A politician representing that area, let's call him Crook A, gets that road made right around or slightly before election time.
- Now when election time rolls around Crook A can appeal to Person A to vote for him instead of voting for Crook B. Person would be more likely to vote for Crook A bcuz he benefitted from Crook A.
- Crook A gets elected again and gets to fill his pockets and do a little bit of more work for "show", take pictures, hype it up, etc.

It is this kind of voter mentality that is just as equally responsible. Our politicians neglect working on other crucial tasks if they have nothing to show for it. Our public(a lot of them) votes selfishly in a sense, based on things like I mentioned above or bcuz Crook A shares some ethnic/linguistic/etc commonality with Person A. If the public was informed enough where they will see the bigger picture then politicians will be forced to also look at the bigger picture and work on that if they want to get reelected.

U can see this phenomenon in what PML-N is doing right now. Most of the development is happening in Punjab, which is their voter base so naturally they would like to "show" their "hardwork" to retain those votes. Other provinces get neglected bcuz PML-N isn't likely to benefit(get votes) from Sindh for example.

Punjab is the most populous province and contributes the most in GDP. Also there is an actual need to alleviate traffic and build infrastructure...but even after taking into account all of this there is still an unproportional amount of attention Punjab is getting from the current government and a lot of the money(loans) is being spent on building metros and bridges, which could be better used elsewhere.
 
Congratulation to Pakistan. It has became third country after US and Russia to have MIRV. It is the only nation in the world to equip a 2200 KM missile with MIRV. US and Russia are unable to do that. Pakistan should be really proud of her achievement. I believe babur with MIRV is next
 
Congratulation to Pakistan. It has became third country after US and Russia to have MIRV. It is the only nation in the world to equip a 2200 KM missile with MIRV. US and Russia are unable to do that. Pakistan should be really proud of her achievement. I believe babur with MIRV is next
Launching MIRVs is not a function limited by range but by altitude and directly proportional to the distance of the target. China, Russia and the u.s. have great distances between them and therefore their missiles have to higher. Having said that, this is an indirect warning to other countries farther away that reaching them is short hop and a skip away for us.
 
Launching MIRVs is not a function limited by range

Ohhhh is it? I did not know that. Thank you for educating me. I know pakistan can do that. That is why I wrote that I am awaiting for MIRVed Babur.
 
Ohhhh is it? I did not know that. Thank you for educating me. I know pakistan can do that. That is why I wrote that I am awaiting for MIRVed Babur.
Oh not a problem, I understand that most indians suffer from a serious case of gigantus ignoramus so we are all to happy to shove it in your face.

Don't worry, there's already a version of the Babur that carries clustered explosives.
 
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