A year for the First Flotilla to Gaza: Turkey was found Guilty by UN

[nirreich]

Israeli official: Turkey wants UN to tone down report on Gaza flotilla raid
Official says Erdogan government 'very worried' over criticism of Turkey the report is expected to contain; Toning down report is proposed in deal to heal diplomatic rift between the two countries.

By Barak Ravid

Turkey has asked Israel to agree to a toned-down version of the UN Secretary-General's report on last year's flotilla to Gaza, according to a senior government official in Jerusalem.

According to the official, the Turks are "very worried" about the harsh criticism of Turkey they expect the report to contain, and want Israel to agree to a softened version as part of a package deal to end the crisis between the two countries over the flotilla, which took place in May 2010.

The director general of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, Feridun Sinirlioglu, conveyed Turkey's request in a secret meeting early last week in Geneva with Vice Prime Minister Moshe Ya'alon.

A draft of the report, due to be released within two weeks, was given to Israel and Turkey about six weeks ago. The committee determined that Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is in keeping with international law, and therefore its actions to stop the flotilla were also legal.

According to a senior government official in Jerusalem, the report criticizes the Turkish government and highlights the relationship between it and IHH, the group that organized the flotilla.

The report also states that, while Israel Defense Forces soldiers acted in self-defense, they used disproportionate force that led to the death of nine Turkish citizens. The report recommends that Israel pay compensation to the families of the dead and injured Turkish citizens, which Israel has already said it is willing to do.

The official said the Turks would like to soften the parts of the report that could cause a political storm in Turkey.

During the meeting with Ya'alon, the Turks suggested that the toning down of the report would lead to an end to the crisis and the normalalization of relations between the countries, which would include the return of the Turkish ambassador to Tel Aviv.

Officials in Jerusalem said Israel and Turkey were finding it difficult to reach an agreement because of Recep Tayyip Erdogan's directives to Turkish negotiators, who were told not to yield on the matter of an Israeli apology for the killing of Turkish citizens.

The Turkish representative on the UN panel, Ozdem Sanberk, presented a new version of an apology in an interview to the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet late last week, noting that Turkey expected Israel to admit to an operational failure. Sanberk told Hurriyet that if the crisis was not solved, Turkey could lose its influence in the region.

"Panel chairman Geoffrey Palmer is willing to change the report in keeping with understandings reached by Israel and Turkey," the Israeli government source said. The official also said that if no progress was made before the the date of the report's release, it would be be more difficult to make progress thereafter.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...ne-down-report-on-gaza-flotilla-raid-1.369614

 

[silko]

you can blame turkey for whatever you want, the only thing i am mad for is that they don't blame israel for killing them in INTERNATIONAL water!

that is not an excuse, you had plenty of time and the power to take them out once they entered the blocked area!

just a little note, it would be better if you had posted this in the turkish section instead! maybe some more turks and israelis would have participated in thsi then!

 

[Solomon2]

you can blame turkey for whatever you want, the only thing i am mad for is that they don't blame israel for killing them in INTERNATIONAL water! that is not an excuse, you had plenty of time and the power to take them out once they entered the blocked area!

Silko, do you want to grow up, or do you plan to act 14 forever?

 

[silko]

Silko, do you want to grow up, or do you plan to act 14 forever?

what do you mean?

 

[kobiraaz]

Silko, do you want to grow up, or do you plan to act 14 forever?

leave trolling and show him his mistakes.

 

[Unbeliever]

You know, facts don't make for a good witch-hunt.. So don't expect this thread to be noticed by more than a handful of people...

 

[Archdemon]

So maybe modertors could move this thread to Turkish subforum

 

[Solomon2]

what do you mean?

You are both angry and unclear. Too many pronouns.

 

[Green Bullet]

You are both angry and unclear. Too many pronouns

It is quite atonishing that instead of debating the issue at hand, you are trolling and side tracking the question at hand. Does the truth hurt Solomon, when you finally realise that the Israeli Government is a heinousness ogre of an institution, that is very bold in committing acts of murder.

 

[cheekybird]

Israeli official: Turkey wants UN to tone down report on Gaza flotilla raid
Official says Erdogan government 'very worried' over criticism of Turkey the report is expected to contain; Toning down report is proposed in deal to heal diplomatic rift between the two countries.

By Barak Ravid

Turkey has asked Israel to agree to a toned-down version of the UN Secretary-General's report on last year's flotilla to Gaza, according to a senior government official in Jerusalem.

According to the official, the Turks are "very worried" about the harsh criticism of Turkey they expect the report to contain, and want Israel to agree to a softened version as part of a package deal to end the crisis between the two countries over the flotilla, which took place in May 2010.

The director general of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, Feridun Sinirlioglu, conveyed Turkey's request in a secret meeting early last week in Geneva with Vice Prime Minister Moshe Ya'alon.

A draft of the report, due to be released within two weeks, was given to Israel and Turkey about six weeks ago. The committee determined that Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is in keeping with international law, and therefore its actions to stop the flotilla were also legal.

According to a senior government official in Jerusalem, the report criticizes the Turkish government and highlights the relationship between it and IHH, the group that organized the flotilla.

The report also states that, while Israel Defense Forces soldiers acted in self-defense, they used disproportionate force that led to the death of nine Turkish citizens. The report recommends that Israel pay compensation to the families of the dead and injured Turkish citizens, which Israel has already said it is willing to do.

The official said the Turks would like to soften the parts of the report that could cause a political storm in Turkey.

During the meeting with Ya'alon, the Turks suggested that the toning down of the report would lead to an end to the crisis and the normalalization of relations between the countries, which would include the return of the Turkish ambassador to Tel Aviv.

Officials in Jerusalem said Israel and Turkey were finding it difficult to reach an agreement because of Recep Tayyip Erdogan's directives to Turkish negotiators, who were told not to yield on the matter of an Israeli apology for the killing of Turkish citizens.

The Turkish representative on the UN panel, Ozdem Sanberk, presented a new version of an apology in an interview to the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet late last week, noting that Turkey expected Israel to admit to an operational failure. Sanberk told Hurriyet that if the crisis was not solved, Turkey could lose its influence in the region.

"Panel chairman Geoffrey Palmer is willing to change the report in keeping with understandings reached by Israel and Turkey," the Israeli government source said. The official also said that if no progress was made before the the date of the report's release, it would be be more difficult to make progress thereafter.

Israeli official: Turkey wants UN to tone down report on Gaza flotilla raid - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

U dont have to give explanation..israel will go on killing palestinians and will attack this flotilla too,no one can stop israel bcoz of their big bro us.

 

[Mosamania]

Israel as always do whatever the hell it wants and break whatever law it wants and the victim as always will be found guilty.

Killing tens and thousands of civilians is okay Israel will investigate itself and then surprisingly find itself not guilty. and when international investigation is called America will veto it as always. question comes to mind though "Why are you afraid of an investigation if you are so sure that you are not guilty?"

the soldiers who use Palastenians as target practice will only get a "go to your room" treatment and be back to duty faster than you can say guilty even.

But hey they had a holocaust once upon a time so now they can blow off some steam and who is better to blow off some steam on than those terrorist muslim arabs?? those bad bad people who only hate us because they are jealous of our way of life.

 

[Bhairava]

Good move.

Will stop the Turkish govt from going ahead with these kinda stupid provocations in the name of Palestine again.

The Palestinians and Israelis are one blood. Let them sort out their own issues. The Arabs and the Turkish are unnecessarily meddling the waters for their own political ambitions.

 

[nirreich]

Israel as always do whatever the hell it wants and break whatever law it wants and the victim as always will be found guilty.

Killing tens and thousands of civilians is okay Israel will investigate itself and then surprisingly find itself not guilty. and when international investigation is called America will veto it as always. question comes to mind though "Why are you afraid of an investigation if you are so sure that you are not guilty?"

the soldiers who use Palastenians as target practice will only get a "go to your room" treatment and be back to duty faster than you can say guilty even.

But hey they had a holocaust once upon a time so now they can blow off some steam and who is better to blow off some steam on than those terrorist muslim arabs?? those bad bad people who only hate us because they are jealous of our way of life.

When ever you want to discuss reality and not some fantasies, let me know.

If I were you I would be careful to lecture other countries on human rights while your country does not even allow women to have driving license.

 

[Mosamania]

When ever you want to discuss reality and not some fantasies, let me know.

If I were you I would be careful to lecture other countries on human rights while your country does not even allow women to have driving license.

oooh talk about holding someone from the hand that hurts. lol

But as for human rights in my country I admit we are lacking on a few things here and there but I greatly believe time will fix everything. I mean after all the israelis will be so sad to know that they can't use the "only democracy in the middle east" anymore. Oh and by the way as a nation we do not want a democracy and that is the choice of the people so in a way it is democratic for Saudi Arabia to be a monarchy now huh?

 

[Green Bullet]

Good move.

How exactly is this a good move, can you please explain more in great detail.

Will stop the Turkish govt from going ahead with these kinda stupid provocations in the name of Palestine again.

The concoction which you have proposed is diabolical, as the Turkish Government clearly has certain grievances in which it demands justice.