A world without USA?

[jhungary]

Are these facts hidden ? How do we know YOU did not make them up ? It must be lies because on this forum, popular consensus trumps everything, so if everybody agrees that the US made everything worse, it must be true, therefore, these things you said must be lies.

lol he told me to look at any history book, so I did...

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

I wonder how is what @libertad said neutral ?

It's like you have an accident on a bridge and you blame the bridge for being exist.....

In WW1, Germany and UK were ALREADY AT WAR before US involved. What he said only make sense if British Surrender before hostility. And when War are being Progress, then bloodshed HAD ALREADY started. Or you are not counting the people dead before US involvement is bloodshed?

Same thing in WW2. UK, France were already at war and China were already at war with japan before US involvement. Again, whatever peace there are, unless either party take it before hostility, it will not be bloodless.

US involvement changed the victors, NOT THE WAR.

and the fact to the matter is, US involvement speed things up (WW1 finish 1 and a half years after US involvement, while WW2 finished 3 years and 10 months after US involvement), I can argue this is the point to limit bloodshed if you want another 100 years war, or 30 years war in European Soil.

Ironic to bring WW as example of American intervention
Both the Wars America chose to be neutral until the combatants dragged USA into

WW1 its was Zimmermann-telegram

WW2 was Pearl Harbour.

 

[Spring Onion]

I don't know about all this above

But a world without America, PDF will become a a lot more boring without all those American Bashing post, they may as well folded the website.

you surely may be limited to US section in PDF otherwise there is more India/Pakistan bashing here.

Anyway i feel Syed.Ali.Haider has become paranoid insecure

world without US makes no sense

 

[jhungary]

Ironic to bring WW as example of American intervention
Both the Wars America chose to be neutral until the combatants dragged USA into

WW1 its was Zimmermann-telegram

WW2 was Pearl Harbour.

To be fair, US were not going to fight in WW1 at all, there are a significant influence in Irish (Anti-Commonwealth faction), Scandinavia and Germania lobbyist to prevent US from joining the war, at least on allies side.

Small fact almost no body notice is that US did not declare war on behalf of Allied Nations. (France/Commonweal et el) and was to enter the war as an independent candidate in order to invade Mexico when the war drag on, back then, there are still bad blood between US-Mexico relationship and that particular act is to retaliate the Zimmerman telegraph by Germany Cosying up Mexican.

The WW1 ended before US mobilise enough man, and have to abandon the whole Mexican Invasion plan and instead, make peace talk with the US Southern border.

you surely may be limited to US section in PDF otherwise there is more India/Pakistan bashing here.

Anyway i feel Syed.Ali.Haider has become paranoid insecure

world without US makes no sense

yes ma'am....

And also Asian section....

 

[SirHatesALot]

Troll thread

 

[VCheng]

world without US makes no sense

I think the world would still go on, albeit in a very different manner. The thread was meant to discuss some scenarios of what might have happened had here been no USA. I wonder if any other country would have developed GPS and Internet and then made available to all the world free of charge?

 

[Spring Onion]

I think the world would still go on, albeit in a very different manner. The thread was meant to discuss some scenarios of what might have happened had here been no USA. I wonder if any other country would have developed GPS and Internet and then made available to all the world free of charge?

Why NOT? is it the land or state that had developed these things or Human? and if i am not wrong the work of someone from UK also led to modern internet? and BTW are these really free of charge ? even spam is sold to you

 

[[Bregs]]

one thing is sure if there is no USA, less wars, more peace, autonomy to UN and IMF and many more such things

 

[VCheng]

Why NOT? is it the land or state that had developed these things or Human? and if i am not wrong the work of someone from UK also led to modern internet? and BTW are these really free of charge ? even spam is sold to you

The backbone infrastructure is indeed free of charge to everyone all around the world, since USA has laws that forbid double charging of its citizens, having already paid for the infrastructure through taxes. As a comparison the European Galileo system is not free to use for high precision and commercial users. Charges by the ISP provider should not be confused with the backbone created and provided for free, again by US taxpayers.

one thing is sure if there is no USA, less wars, more peace, autonomy to UN and IMF and many more such things

Would UN and IMF exist even, without USA?

 

[anon45]

one thing is sure if there is no USA, less wars, more peace, autonomy to UN and IMF and many more such things

US Presidents were THE key supporters for the creation of the UN, IMF, and the now defunct league of nations (even if congress vetoed membership).

Also the US pretty much saved South Korea from the little kims, I think that should earn us some kudos points for existing.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I've never understood that notion. The last time the US tried to stay out of world affairs 100 million people were killed in the span of 30 years. Peaceful my a$$...

Yeah and oddly it was people calling out for OUR help since we were content to just sit it out on our side of the planet

 

[jammersat]

We have had enough of america , and thanks to the internet , probably the only american invention , we've learned that all american crap are from the nazi technology of the second world war , including the computer , which in turn is needed for the internet to exist , so screw america

More Saddam's of the world will exist, more Assad's, Milosovich's and Hitler's of the world would exist

Better than obama and other US warmongers , i mean presidents

 

[anon45]

Category:American inventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jammersat]

Category:American inventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

wikipedia is indeed a reliable source for you to quote , here's wikipedia's page on israeli inventions , enjoy :

List of Israeli inventions and discoveries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

lol lol , ROFLMAO

Category:American inventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And you still don't realize the wikipedia article is a mockery of america , with inventions like taser and cotton swab in the list

And nikola tesla wasn't an american , he was an eastern european and he died in america a virgin , clearly nothing american about him

 

[gambit]

And you still don't realize the wikipedia article is a mockery of america , with inventions like taser and cotton swab in the list

And nikola tesla wasn't an american , he was an eastern european and he died in america a virgin , clearly nothing american about him

This is just about the stupidest critique of America anyone can levied. If anything, it make the critic a racist because he is asserting that there is a specific 'American race'. So not only is he a racist, he is also stupid. The US is an immigrant nation, so dig deep enough and any American can be Asian, African, or of European origin.

So what if Tesla was not US-borned ? He made his greatest contribution to mankind while living/working in America. Why not Iran or China ? Why not Russia, after all, Russia is closer to Serbia, right ? Why did not Tesla stayed in Serbia and invent there ?