A war with China in 2025 would be bloody and unwinnable

[BoQ77]

This is also wrong. After the invasion of Vietnam, Sihanouk lead a Cambodian resistant faction to kick Vietnam out of Cambodia. His faction was called FUNCIPEC. Also he joined force with Khmer Rouge and call their resistance as Khmer People National Liberation Front (KPNLF). So basically, Vietnam wasn't save Cambodian people. They occupy the country. You are the aggressor, not their savior. And they hate you to an extent to build a resistance army to kick you out of their country.

I didnt say that Vietnam bring King Sinanouk back to throne.
Let say Vietnam throw Khmer Rouge out of power, give benefit to King Sihanouk.
Before the Vietnam intervene, the King has no chance with Khmer Rouge

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Don’t you mean, China became a turncoat, tried to test the Soviet-Vietnam, got a bloody nose, and became a lackey to the US/west. Look at these photos, CCP leaders picking up food for the leaders from the US/west. It is disgraceful, a true display of being a lackey. I dont think you will ever find pictures of leaders from Vietnam, Philippines, Japan, etc. picking up food for these folks.

That's our tradition since immortal time that we pick up food for our guests to show our hospitality, after millennium as tributary state of China, you Viets should have known that

 

[Brainsucker]

I didnt say that Vietnam bring King Sinanouk back to throne.
Let say Vietnam throw Khmer Rouge out of power, give benefit to King Sihanouk.
Before the Vietnam intervene, the King has no chance with Khmer Rouge

That's I can't argue. But it's not Vietnam's intention to help him.

Hun Sen is not under the grasp of Vietnam. He is an opportunist. In 1985 he betrayed Vietnam by established a relation with CGDK (the alliance between FUNCINPEC, KPNLF, and Rouge. Then in 1995 he did coup de'etat against the government (after they kick out Vietnam from Cambodia). He was the wild ball in Cambodia at that time.

 

[William Hung]

That's our tradition since immortal time that we pick up food for our guests to show our hospitality, after millennium as tributary state of China, you Viets should have known that

I know that tradition, it means picking up food for your daddy. You will never see other Asian leaders displaying such a disgraceful act.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

This is why the U.S will not wait until 2025 to confront China. By that time, China will be too strong for the U.S. War will happen before 2025 even if China do not want to fight the U.S, the U.S will force China into attacking the U.S so the U.S can obliterate China. The U.S have already baited China 5 times but China is just too afraid and back down. China will be in the same situation like the Japanese prior to Pearl Harbor even if China does not want to. China will be eradicated from the Spratlys, Paracels, Scarborough, and even Hainan island. The U.S will proceed this war full scale so China won't have a chance and return to make trouble in SCS.

You Viets are dreaming ...sure US has made provocative moves but they didn't dare to cross the red line and send their generals, rear Admiral to China to cool down the heat . But we will baited Vietnam to attack China and we will confiscate by force all islands and reefs stolen by Vietnam as 1988

 

[Brainsucker]

I know that tradition, it means picking up food for your daddy. You will never see other Asian leaders displaying such a disgraceful act.

Nope, it's picking up food for a buddy; brothers; etc. It is a symbol that you care to the person that you picking up food into. A hospitality to our friend.

 

[BoQ77]

Hun Sen is not under the grasp of Vietnam. He is an opportunist. In 1985 he betrayed Vietnam by established a relation with CGDK (the alliance between FUNCINPEC, KPNLF, and Rouge. Then in 1995 he did coup de'etat against the government (after they kick out Vietnam from Cambodia). He was the wild ball in Cambodia at that time.

That's Cambodia internal affair. Don't call him as betray or anything else.
Vietnam did a good job, to remove Khmer Rouge from power and establish a good enough govt to keep them away.
I must tell you "Vietnam support is much better than what US doing in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan" or "what China "helped" Cambodia with Khmer Rouge"
and benefit for Cambodian people.

 

[William Hung]

You Viets are dreaming ...sure US has made provocative moves but they didn't dare to cross the red line and send their generals, rear Admiral to China to cool down the heat . But we will baited Vietnam to attack China and we will confiscate by force all islands and reefs stolen by Vietnam as 1988

You confiscated ALL islands and reefs from VN? Then what is this map showing? This is the reality of which Islands/reefs are currently being occupied:

You folks are so delusional and out of touch with reality its no longer worth my time. Have a good day.

Nope, it's picking up food for a buddy; brothers; etc. It is a symbol that you care to the person that you picking up food into. A hospitality to our friend.

Lol you know what that embarassing gesture is for a leader to be doing. You are now all in delusional and denial mode.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I know that tradition, it means picking up food for your daddy. You will never see other Asian leaders displaying such a disgraceful act.

Pick up food for someone is not begging for food from someone, there is nothing to be shame about that , Chinese leaders had shown themselves as wise men by doing that (礼贤下士)

You confiscated ALL islands and reefs from VN? Then what is this map showing? This is the reality of which Islands/reefs are currently being occupied:

You folks are so delusional and out of touch with reality its no longer worth my time. Have a good day.
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Read over again of what I wrote

 

[William Hung]

Pick up food for someone is not begging for food from someone, there is nothing to be shame about that , Chinese leaders had shown themselves as wise men by doing that (礼贤下士)



Read over again of what I wrote

Yeah, you wrote confiscate all islands/reefs...as in 1988. And we are still occupying +20 islands/reefs while all you could do is start dreaming and talking of how to take it back. Maybe you need to “talk less and do more” like you folks had always preached about?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Yeah, you wrote confiscate all islands/reefs...as in 1988. And we are still occupying +20 islands/reefs while all you could do is start dreaming and talking of how to take it back. Maybe you need to “talk less and do more” like you folks had always preached about?

Wrong again , I was replying to @hoangsa74 that we will bait Vietnam to attack China and we will confiscate all reef and island stolen as we did in 1988

 

[William Hung]

Wrong again , I was replying to @hoangsa74 that we will bait Vietnam to attack China and we will confiscate all reef and island stolen as we did in 1988

Yeah okay, then the Viet troops shall sit and wait while you can keep dreaming and talking how you will get it back.

BTW, just realized how off-topic this thread has become. It was supposed to be about China challenging the US military but somehow we ended up talking about CCP leaders picking up food for US leaders and the dream about how China can take, what it deemed as stolen, islands and reefs from a small country like Vietnam.

As said a while ago, I should stop wasting my time, or yours. Have a good day.

 

[BoQ77]

I didn't said otherwise, I just said he's on our side such SCS issue

Hun Sen oppose the engagement of ASEAN to SCS issue, as Cambodia isn't claimant.
No matter you could consider there're 60 countries including Cambodia to your side.
Any country could express their thinking. Just like Japan, US, India, Australia opposed China's movement

But, in my opinion, Hun Sen never said that Cambodia sides with China to oppose their neighbors

 

[T-Rex]

If they are insane and too arrogant they will taste the bitterness of war with another superpower..I think they are insane when attacking relatively easy prey, but very lucid, logical, objective, rational and calculating when facing a real threat..

In other words the US is mighty strong against weak nations but like a pussy when faced with an equally formidable foe. This is always the nature of the vultures.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

You Viets are dreaming ...sure US has made provocative moves but they didn't dare to cross the red line and send their generals, rear Admiral to China to cool down the heat . But we will baited Vietnam to attack China and we will confiscate by force all islands and reefs stolen by Vietnam as 1988

My brother, many people forget that there was originally an 11 dash line. China in a gesture of friendship gave two dashes to Vietnaam. But they returned the favour in a wrong way.

Now China will never give away any of the dashes away. Might be time to claim back the gifted two dashes back.