A war with China in 2025 would be bloody and unwinnable

[Beast]

But officially China has only 300 nukes and this has emboldened her foes.



That I do not know for sure, most probably they won't. I think they will focus on decimating the Chinese Navy. The US and her allies like india and Vietnam are certainly itching for a showdown at the SCS. They strongly believe that militarily China will be humiliated by the mighty USN.

Then what is USN waiting for? US brag about going to stop our SCS islet building. Sending destroyer and deploy bomber yet no action. Or is the opposit of somebody overestimation. In modern times, we don't need a carrier to fight a carrier. U think it's still WWII? Out ABSM will decimate USN. That is why the no ball USN still dare not bomb our islet.

And somebody likes to blow hot fart.

 

[shhh]

Copy and paste only in your washed brain.

That is exactly the reason why China must have 10000 pieces of nuclear weapons at her disposal.

If the West tries to deter the rise of China with force, then be prepared to end in ruin together.



I thought he was an Indian or American or Pinoy or Viet in disguise.

My apologies.

I just wanted to clarify

But its okay.

Come on now. Even if China go to war with Vietnam it will be brutal for China both military and economical. It doesn't mean Vietnam is superior to China. Is it? Americans and rest of the world fought world wars. So losses don't matter when it comes to that. But the Victory. Or are u suggesting Nato and US armed forces will loss the war with China?

Yeah.

1. China will lose against Viets.
2. USA will lose against Viets.
3. Russia will lose against Viets.
4. But the mighty India would decimate everyone including themselves.

 

[T-Rex]

Then what is USN waiting for? US brag about going to stop our SCS islet building. Sending destroyer and deploy bomber yet no action. Or is the opposit of somebody overestimation. In modern times, we don't need a carrier to fight a carrier. U think it's still WWII? Out ABSM will decimate USN. That is why the no ball USN still dare not bomb our islet.

And somebody likes to blow hot fart.

I really want to believe what you've just claimed because a lot for us is at stake too. I just don't want China to make the same mistake as Germany did by invading Soviet Russia. In a war precise assessment of the foe's military capabilities is essential for a victory.

 

[gambit]

Then what is USN waiting for? US brag about going to stop our SCS islet building. Sending destroyer and deploy bomber yet no action. Or is the opposit of somebody overestimation. In modern times, we don't need a carrier to fight a carrier. U think it's still WWII? Out ABSM will decimate USN. That is why the no ball USN still dare not bomb our islet.

And somebody likes to blow hot fart.

And THAT is how the PDF Chinese views military tactics. All they have to do is cite 'in modern times' and everything known so far in the art and craft of warfare is erased. This is from a country that is still struggling to modernize its military and from a crew that have never shot a .22 caliber, let alone served in the military.

All it takes is three words: in modern times.

 

[T-Rex]

And THAT is how the PDF Chinese views military tactics. All they have to do is cite 'in modern times' and everything known so far in the art and craft of warfare is erased. This is from a country that is still struggling to modernize its military and from a crew that have never shot a .22 caliber, let alone served in the military.

All it takes is three words: in modern times.

In modern times carriers do make big fat targets for the ASBMs assisted by satellites, there's no doubt about it.

 

[Djinn]

If its anything Viets should forget if USA even exists, we all saw how US and NATO went to Ukraine's help despite giving security assurances in response to Ukraine giving up nuclear weapons.

 

[T-Rex]

If its anything Viets should forget if USA even exists, we all saw how US and NATO went to Ukraine's help despite giving security assurances in response to Ukraine giving up nuclear weapons.

The US is champion of treachery and deceit, they'll say and do anything to get what they want. It's in their blood but what amuses me is the way states like Vietnam behave as far as the US is concerned.

 

[AndrewJin]

just nuke the world....

 

[Peer Haman Shah]

Pakistan woud be behind you in Syrea.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Come on now. Even if China go to war with Vietnam it will be brutal for China both military and economical. It doesn't mean Vietnam is superior to China. Is it? Americans and rest of the world fought world wars. So losses don't matter when it comes to that. But the Victory. Or are u suggesting Nato and US armed forces will loss the war with China?

Do you think, after US to win a war with China, still can maintain his superpower status?
The US would win difficult... So, you see now is still the peace.
Please don't forget, a 1950-1953 Korean war, China won the USA and 16 countries' war.
Please Google, "Third Battle of Seoul" China's armed forces pushed the war to the 37 th the parallel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_Seoul

 

[patero]

just nuke the world....

Probably what will happen eventually. Not much hope for our species really given our inability to understand and care about each other, I hope whatever species that eventually evolves from the ashes of our self-destruction learns something from our failures.

 

[Nilgiri]

Wouldn't a war at any point with a country/nation the size of China be a bloodbath and unwinnable really?

Clickbait title.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I don't think the west will allow that much time to China. They can sense the rate at which China is catching up with them in the field of technology and this has made them desperate for a conflict with China. They think a military defeat, even at small scale, will put immense pressure on the CPC which might lead to the fall of China as a global power. They are expecting some sort of power struggle in CPC and the consequent fall of Xi as the leader, followed by dissolution of the CPC. This is basically the game plan.

"Let China sleep, when she wakes up the world will cry" - Napoleon

It's not the West, but whether China will give time is the question..

 

[SBUS-CXK]

But China is a copy-paste backwards country.

Copy and paste do you think is very simple thing??
Such as India, drawings for LCA is provided by France, the United States to provide engine, Israeli missiles, Europe provide avionics system. To now, 30 years... Can and J-10 battle?
Arjun provided by the German engine, artillery, and suspension system. Thirty years up to now, there are 57 kinds of defects. can and China the type 96 tank combat?
Sir, isn't what you want to copy and paste can do, if you don't have the industrial base and manufacturing capacity. Everything can't do.

https://defence.pk/threads/first-kill-for-type-96-tank-in-sudanese-conflict.178275/

 

[Blue Marlin]

aren't we all forgetting the next gen of warfare? proxys.