A union of independent countries?

[aakash_2410]

I got an idea. The thing is, if it is put in use then it will be better for us. I was thinking of an union, where every country of the union will be independent. Only thing is in war, in economic slow down, natural disaster and foreign invation by any means, the countries under the union must support each other. Now we are seeing Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Maldives, all are part of south asia. This union will unite these countries, lets say, cricket, only one team will be build players from each of these countries. Union flag and anthem will be same, just like US. The union will stand on Shariah law or democracy, whatever the mass population will want. The problems we see everyday, it will go away insh allah if only we unite with each other. About a week ago, Indian navy were trying to enter Maldives that means they have their eye fixed on that country. If we really unite all these problems will go away. The union will live by finance from each coutry, like canadian provinces and a person who will be the the top most figure selected by each country' under the union. Military will be such that members will be allowed to learn and protect where evern they or their superion wants them to do their duty. Every country will have to have equal status.

It will solve a lot of mejor problems. This thought of mine is hypothetical. If we just try, we will get insh allah allah's blessing and satisfaction.

Do you even know about Maldives?
No government can survive in Maldives without Indian support!! So how was Indian Navy TRYING TO enter Maldives? Indian forces have presence in Maldives to provide security for government personnel.








P.S. No India = No South Asia!!!

 

[Lighting_Fighter]

But what is you economic plan? How will such a union function when its biggest members (both population wise as well as land mass) have economies that are in shambles?

In fact unions break when the economies are weak, for example the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

I know it is just a hypothesis but i'm just adding my input.

Well I am not an economist. I know iny biny of economic matters. What comes to my mind now is that each country will contribute same % to the National Union and when union gives back from yearly national budget, will be according to the need of the country.

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Lmao no thanks! Religion can never be a uniting factor. This is why Pakistan broke into two pieces in 1971. And religion should never be mixed with the state, we have seen disastrous results in the past.

bro muslims were united and ruled the world from atlantic to pacific for more than 1000 of years just depending on faith. Any historian here, give this bro some info of islamic history.

 

[livingdead]

Well I am not an economist. I know iny biny of economic matters. What comes to my mind now is that each country will contribute same % to the National Union and when union gives back from yearly national budget, will be according to the need of the country.

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bro muslims were united and ruled the world from atlantic to pacific for more than 1000 of years just depending on faith. Any historian here, give this bro some info of islamic history.

It seems you are no good in history either.

 

[canadian icehole]

Unity requires a common cultural/social background. The European Union is a good start. The EU problems are results of people not doing their due diligence.

 

[Birbal]

I got an idea. The thing is, if it is put in use then it will be better for us. I was thinking of an union, where every country of the union will be independent. Only thing is in war, in economic slow down, natural disaster and foreign invation by any means, the countries under the union must support each other. Now we are seeing Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Maldives, all are part of south asia. This union will unite these countries, lets say, cricket, only one team will be build players from each of these countries. Union flag and anthem will be same, just like US. The union will stand on Shariah law or democracy, whatever the mass population will want. The problems we see everyday, it will go away insh allah if only we unite with each other. About a week ago, Indian navy were trying to enter Maldives that means they have their eye fixed on that country. If we really unite all these problems will go away. The union will live by finance from each coutry, like canadian provinces and a person who will be the the top most figure selected by each country' under the union. Military will be such that members will be allowed to learn and protect where evern they or their superion wants them to do their duty. Every country will have to have equal status.

It will solve a lot of mejor problems. This thought of mine is hypothetical. If we just try, we will get insh allah allah's blessing and satisfaction.

Nevertheless, I don't think we can have such a close union right now. The fact is that India alone has far more diversity than the entire European Union and look how much trouble the EU is having. When we also factor in the problems between Pakistan and India, it simply isn't practical at the moment.

Nevertheless, I feel a South Asian Union should definitely be the goal for the future.

 

[The SC]

Thank goodness India was left out of it !

BTW the Afghans look doen upon the Pakistanis (mostly Punjabis) as inferior and the Pakistanis (almost all) looked upon the Bengalis as inferior. Now the Maldivians think of themselves as pseudo-Arabs and look down upon all South Asians....Good luck with your union...

You sound like some one looking too much up and down.
Now imagine yourself looking at someone and his eyes are looking up and down continually, what would you think of that person, a sane person!

 

[Devianz]

india never was our friend

its more like a business partner

People fail to understand that there are no friends in international politics. There are only partners in one field or the other. True friendship between nations is a rare thing and there are very few examples you could point to.

 

[Lighting_Fighter]

It seems you are no good in history either.

Go search find out how many years muslims held the power and then put it here.

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Nevertheless, I don't think we can have such a close union right now. The fact is that India alone has far more diversity than the entire European Union and look how much trouble the EU is having. When we also factor in the problems between Pakistan and India, it simply isn't practical at the moment.

Nevertheless, I feel a South Asian Union should definitely be the goal for the future.

The union I was talking about is for muslim mejority countries hence Bangladesh, Pakistan, Maldives and Afghanistan. Not India.

 

[Lighting_Fighter]

Unity requires a common cultural/social background. The European Union is a good start. The EU problems are results of people not doing their due diligence.

It seems you have no knowledge about Islam. Islam is not only a religion but a way of life. It is a social rules, culture and custom for muslims.

 

[The SC]

The Muslim Ummah is in the making, the most important part is the wealth sharing between its members (bait-o-al mal), how to do it and what are the priorities, assessing all the natural resources and richness of its lands as well as developing its human ressources to new heights of science and technology by implementing R&D and adapting the best economical models for its survival and blooming, the blue print is done and applications have started.
Steps have been taken to eliminate corruption and devious behaviour and a return to the much cherished Islamic values and their benefits on society.
If we assess its military capacities, we'll see that it is very strong (modestly stated) indeed, so it will be capable of defending itself against any threat.
Its population mass is about 2 billion people or the 3rd of earth's population.
So the potential is mind boggling and can be scary to people with anti Islamic education (Europe, the US, Israel, Hindus and the like) even though it is not a hegemonic power, indeed Muslims in the past invaded countries only when the people of those countries complained to them about the mistreatments they were suffering from their rulers, so Muslims went in to ask them to join Islam for good deeds or pay tax to sustain their poor or fight, hence showing courage and self sacrifice for the sake of humans and God's words, regardless of their backgrounds, to the contrary of western civilisations and Hindus depicting them as barbaric invaders, inhuman and blood thirsty, we can see clearly with historical facts that they were depicting themselves in front of a mirror like spirits.

Islam will prevail and the islamic Ummah will emerge as the future morality and ethics super power beside being a military and economical super power for the benefit of the human kind and to please Allah. The rewards will then be proportionate as God has promised us.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

The Muslim Ummah is in the making, the most important part is the wealth sharing between its members (bait-o-al mal), how to do it and what are the priorities, assessing all the natural resources and richness of its lands as well as developing its human ressources to new heights of science and technology by implementing R&D and adapting the best economical models for its survival and blooming, the blue print is done and applications have started.
Steps have been taken to eliminate corruption and devious behaviour and a return to the much cherished Islamic values and their benefits on society.
If we assess its military capacities, we'll see that it is very strong (modestly stated) indeed, so it will be capable of defending itself against any threat.
Its population mass is about 2 billion people or the 3rd of earth's population.
So the potential is mind boggling and can be scary to people with anti Islamic education (Europe, the US, Israel, Hindus and the like) even though it is not a hegemonic power, indeed Muslims in the past invaded countries only when the people of those countries complained to them about the mistreatments they were suffering from their rulers, so Muslims went in to ask them to join Islam for good deeds or pay tax to sustain their poor or fight, hence showing courage and self sacrifice for the sake of humans and God's words, regardless of their backgrounds, to the contrary of western civilisations and Hindus depicting them as barbaric invaders, inhuman and blood thirsty, we can see clearly with historical facts that they were depicting themselves in front of a mirror like spirits.

Islam will prevail and the islamic Ummah will emerge as the future morality and ethics super power beside being a military and economical super power for the benefit of the human kind and to please Allah. The rewards will then be proportionate as God has promised us.

Getting rid of dictators and their regimes is one thing, but I don't see much evidence of an ummah in the making. National differences, let alone doctrinal disputes, are now too great for even to consider an union.

 

[hotaki]

Union between Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan and some central Asian republics will be good, no to Bangladesh and Maldives they can make something with Indonesia etc.

We moved on and share nothing culturally aswell as linguistics with them and haven't forgotten their treachery and love for their dravidian brothers.

 

[K-Xeroid]

Getting rid of dictators and their regimes is one thing, but I don't see much evidence of an ummah in the making. National differences, let alone doctrinal disputes, are now too great for even to consider an union.

With respect I like to ask, How could you come to that conclusion?... there are very less sources of media to represent the true opinion of Ummah, Even with having hundreds of Differences its our religion which make us Brothers, Even not knowing about each other we still have a same wish "peace" .. Its a natural habit of human being to desire for peace, A habit which can't
be removed, But everyone suggested their own way to bring it.. They struggle for it and they die for it hoping that his next generation might overcome to these crisis and can bring peace . .. millions of years have been past but that habit of desiring peace still exist.
There desires makes them to suggest a united world ,A world with full of brotherhood. Islam is code of conduct sended to Us by GOD ,why is it said to be a complete code of conduct cuz it is according to will of the peoples. Unity, equility, tolerance and brotherhood..
That Ummah is also according to the desires of people .. A United world having one ideology based on Human's wish. But unfortunatly most of peoples misunderstood this pure ideology..

 

[American Pakistani]

A union of Pakistan & Bangladesh is impossible(even impossible is small word). On what basis will be the Union? Muslims? that was failed by Mujeeb & indian sponsored terrorist organization in 1971. Also there is no geographical, cultural, linguistical joint between the 2 countries. Not to forget that most Bangladeshis hate Pakistan in their hearts(maybe not those who are on PDF but others do). Many Pakistanis have forget the past & also Bangladesh & it is barely in any news, the countries Pakistanis talk most are US, China, Afghanistan, India, Israel/Palestine, Iran, Turkey, Middleeast, Europe, Central Asia, Russia etc.

IMO Pakistan must go for SCO as well as make some workable bonding with Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan & CAR's.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

With respect I like to ask, How could you come to that conclusion?...

The Muslim world is not a monolithic block. Not only are Muslims culturally diverse, they are also as varied ideologically as the rest of the population. Above that, various Muslim groups can't even stand each other, resulting in (civil) war or animosity. A few examples:

Arab states versus Iran.

Afghanistan vs Pakistan.

Algerian civil war (90's).

Syrian civil war.

Turks vs Kurds.

Sectarian violence in Yemen

Darfur genocide (Muslim vs Muslims)

Et cetera.

No offence, but saying there is an Ummah in progress, is just a pipe dream.