A teenager has beheaded a teacher in northern Paris for showing pictures of Prophet Mohammed in class

[Salmanov]

You are not answering the question. The cartoon that Charlie Hebdo has published obviously sends a message of rejection towards Muslims. Since France celebrates the cartoons it is admitting its bias towards Muslims. It is doing all of this under the garb of freedom of speech. We get it. France hates Muslims, Islam and its prophet. The point has been made crystal clear. There is no confusion or ambiguity. Even the French government has shown approval for the cartoons. Fine.

Why doesn't France break relations with Muslim states? Isn't that the next logical step? If you are willing to draw cartoons and burn the Quran to show contempt towards ALL Muslims and their prophet why have any diplomatic relations with Muslim states? Why this duplicity? Why not put money where the mouth is?

The same magazine that published dozens cartoons against Jesus and no one got offended

 

[mike2000 is back]

Why will this teacher dwell into such a sensitive issue? He should know how emotional Muslims can be when it comes to their religion and even more so prophet. Seriously I don't know how stupid some people can be. Just because you have freedom of expression doesn't means you will.indulge in something which will CERTAINLY take your life away. We have already seen this in many cases before. All those who dared touch on such an issue never lived to tall the tale. Lol
So westerners should avoid any such debate or depiction of Mohammed, since lives are at stake. Before you indulge into something you should know the reaction of your target audience. They can do this with Christians or even Buddhist groups etc and still get away with it, however Muslims are a no go area, they should know this by now. The fact that they still indulge in this can only mean they have a death sentence.

 

[Adonis]

Yes it does. You clearly dont know any thing about islam.

1. Chaos?.. you mean you people?.. sure. vietnam, GW1 &2, WW1 , WW2, Colonization, Belgium brutality in congo, Gujrat massacre, Hebron massacre, New Zealand massacre, rape of Nanking etc etc clearly those people who conducted those crimes against humanity follow a very religion.

as they clearly believed in a very shitty faith ....



now for these western infidels blacks came from a lessor faith.... can you name their crappy religion?
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No mate...With Chaos I meant Al Queda, ISIS, Taliban, LeT, Hezbullah, ISIL, ..as well as brutal suppression of people during expansion of Caliphates, forced brutal conversion of people etc. Have a long list, if you wish.

Yes, western colonising powers did some atrocities but then we said sorry and today give equal rights to these people, give them preference in jobs, respect and adapt their culture .... tell me one Islamic country that does it?... Your ancestors despite living in India for centuries, oppressing non-Muslims...couldn't learn to co-exist with them and hence formed a separate state.... You make mosques in west, get equal rights, get to speak against non-Muslims...can non-Muslims have these privileges in Islamic countries....
Problem is mind-set....you think Muslims are superior..and that's the root cause of conflict

 

[Iltutmish]

Interesting:

'Anti-Semitic' satire divides literary Paris

A controversial columnist's aside about Nicolas Sarkozy's son and a Jewish heiress has reignited old embers. By Jason Burke

www.theguardian.com

Siné - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Charlie Hebdo once fired a cartoonist because of antisemitism.

 

[Adonis]

Why will this teacher dwell into such a sensitive issue? He should know how emotional Muslims can be when it comes to their religion and even more so prophet. Seriously I don't know how stupid some people can be. Just because you have freedom of expression doesn't means you will.indulge in something which will CERTAINLY take your life away. We have already seen this in many cases before. All those who dared touch on such an issue never lived to tall the tale. Lol
So westerners should avoid any such debate or depiction of Mohammed, since lives are at stake. Before you indulge into something you should know the reaction of your target audience. They can do this with Christians or even Buddhist groups etc and still get away with it, however Muslims are a no go area, they should know this by now. The fact that they still indulge in this can only mean they have a death sentence.

How much Muslims are sensitive about other religions?....you can see this forum as an example.....

Problem is, in the past this rigidity and radical thinking was ignored..but now west is waking up...you will see the reaction soon....radicals will be kicked out, concessions in the name of religion will not be accommodated..and thought process/cultural adaption to western values will be tested before granting residency or citizenship..this filth needs to be cleaned..ASAP.

 

[PradoTLC]

such videos dont mean anything...i can post tens of videos muslims converting to hinduism....moreover hinduism is not a religion at all...it is amalgamation of different philosophies,animistic religions,vedic religion etc etc...you just don't understand it as the way you see definition of religion is entirely different.
Anyway I am an agnostic and dont worship any god....All I am saying is it let's not hurt the sensitive minds of children by criticising religion in classrooms...let's keep religion out of schools.

lol...a few hopeless cases that were never true muslims in the first place...most of these cases are fake.

the fact is Islam is fastest growing religion in ten and thousands because of clearly superior attributes,

Anyway I am an agnostic and dont worship any god....

congrats at least you are not worshipping the wrong god.. ie hendoo god

No mate...With Chaos I meant Al Queda, ISIS, Taliban, LeT, Hezbullah, ISIL,

So?... these are you creations. deal with it.

Except for Kashmir freedom fighters they attack the indian army.. perfectly legitimate.

..as well as brutal suppression of people during expansion of Caliphates, forced brutal conversion of people etc. Have a long list, if you wish.

non sense.

if it ever was force how come critters like you are still alive?... and why havent we converted back to those non sense religions?

 

[Gadkari]

How much Muslims are sensitive about other religions?....you can see this forum as an example.....

Problem is, in the past this rigidity and radical thinking was ignored..but now west is waking up...you will see the reaction soon....radicals will be kicked out, concessions in the name of religion will not be accommodated..and thought process/cultural adaption to western values will be tested before granting residency or citizenship..this filth needs to be cleaned..ASAP.

Just last year on the same day, Kamlesh Tiwari was murdered for the same "crime" in India.

Only difference is no political leader in India spoke up for him. Their was no Media outrage or cry over his murder.

 

[PradoTLC]

Why will this teacher dwell into such a sensitive issue? He should know how emotional Muslims can be when it comes to their religion and even more so prophet. Seriously I don't know how stupid some people can be. Just because you have freedom of expression doesn't means you will.indulge in something which will CERTAINLY take your life away. We have already seen this in many cases before. All those who dared touch on such an issue never lived to tall the tale. Lol
So westerners should avoid any such debate or depiction of Mohammed, since lives are at stake. Before you indulge into something you should know the reaction of your target audience. They can do this with Christians or even Buddhist groups etc and still get away with it, however Muslims are a no go area, they should know this by now. The fact that they still indulge in this can only mean they have a death sentence.

I think there is no issue concerning debate, debates among scholars is highly encouraged .. however trying to deliberately invoke to start trouble is something else...

keep in mind it was the colonial english that brought in the blasphemy laws in the subcontinent.

The Europeans were willing to accept their crimes.

they only accepted their crimes becos the Americans forced them to so... europeans in general used to persecute jews.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You know very well indians are used to bash us. For them every occasion is golden opportunity.
We are on an open to public forum so we should not expect something different from them.

talking about the terrorist, when his act bring more insults on our prophet, what kind of love is this ?

And it’s exactly what one of the caricature was about ! Some of the people who love Muhammad (PBUH) show their love in a such dumb way...

ok we don’t draw pic of our prophet, but they are not us, they have their own relation to the religion, they have their own history, the bloody one with wars of religions, they have their own nightmare, they have their own regulated “freedom of speech”, which many Muslims don’t understand.
They have their own laws, and if a little bit intelligent Muslims can use those laws for own interest. But many Muslims chose the wrong way... I agree some of non Muslims are using sensibility of Muslims to push us in corner and provoke us. But have a look at the Jewish people, they were also provoked, pushed in corner etc, but with patience they won their place among french nation. And they practice freely their religion. What is sabr (patience) ?

Their treatment of Muslims is different than others. We are a scapegoat for all their problems.

Muslims should seriously think about leaving France, and in the near future, move to Muslim majority areas and secure them.

No they accepted their crimes against their own people who happened to be Jewish.

it’s quite difficult for every country to accept crimes against others.
And Jewish reminded them their crimes with intelligence.

There was an agenda. Israel was part of it, and controlling Muslim countries was another. These people do not have altruistic intentions.

Interesting:

'Anti-Semitic' satire divides literary Paris

A controversial columnist's aside about Nicolas Sarkozy's son and a Jewish heiress has reignited old embers. By Jason Burke

www.theguardian.com

Siné - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Charlie Hebdo once fired a cartoonist because of antisemitism.

Quite interesting then that they use Nazi era caricatures of Jews and repackage them to use on Muslims.
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The expected has happened. Their media is mostly absent on this incident.

Police investigate after two women stabbed in incident under Eiffel Tower


Paris firefighters confirmed on Tuesday to AFP that they intervened around 20:50 in Paris on Sunday to rescue two women.

No information about the incident was initially released by authorities, which led to some criticism from online users.


It follows rising tensions in France over the beheading of history teacher Samuel Paty in the Paris suburbs last Friday.

Members of the country's Muslim community have complained of increased Islamophobia caused by a government clampdown on mosques and Muslim organisations.

On Tuesday, French President Emmanuel Macron announced that the "Cheikh Yassine Collective" would be dissolved due to its "direct" implication in the attack on Samuel Paty, and stated that further measures against radical Islam are to be taken in the coming days.

Police investigate after two women stabbed under Eiffel Tower

French police are investigating after two women were stabbed on Sunday near the Eiffel Tower in Paris, in an altercation involving racist insults.

www.euronews.com

 

[Vortex]

Their treatment of Muslims is different than others. We are a scapegoat for all their problems.

Muslims should seriously think about leaving France, and in the near future, move to Muslim majority areas and secure them.

No their treatment of us wasn’t different but we made them to treat us differently by our own mistakes.

There was an agenda. Israel was part of it, and controlling Muslim countries was another. These people do not have altruistic intentions.

Every country has its own agenda. Don’t doubt about it.

The expected has happened. Their media is mostly absent on this incident.

And you thought dumb and extremists exist only among one community?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

o their treatment of us wasn’t different but we made them to treat us differently by our own mistakes.

If you study their history, they always need someone to hate.

Here in the US, Native Americans, Blacks, Italians, Irish, Japanese, Chinese, Latinos, and now Muslims have faced this.

very country has its own agenda. Don’t doubt about it.

Yeh bhi sach hai.

And you thought dumb and extremists exist only among one community?

Yes, but wearing hijab is not equal to posting nudes and abusive images of a religious figure.

 

[Green disc]

It’s all orientated to make our values look oppressing and their values symbolise freedom

 

[terry5]

France teacher attack: Rallies held to honour beheaded Samuel Paty

• 18 October 2020
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Video captionRallies in Paris, Toulouse, Lyon and other French cities in support of Samuel Paty
Thousands have attended rallies across France in honour of Samuel Paty, the teacher beheaded after showing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to his pupils.
People in the Place de la République in Paris carried the slogan "Je suis enseignant" (I am a teacher), with PM Jean Castex saying: "We are France!"
A man named as Abdoulakh A was shot dead by police on Friday after killing Mr Paty close to his school near Paris.
An 11th person has now been arrested as part of the investigation.
No details have been given about the arrest. Four close relatives of the suspect were detained shortly after the killing. Six more people were held on Saturday, including the father of a pupil at the school and a preacher described by French media as a radical Islamist.
President Emmanuel Macron said the attack bore all the hallmarks of an "Islamist terrorist attack" and the teacher had been murdered because he "taught freedom of expression".
The murder comes as a trial over the 2015 attack on Charlie Hebdo - a satirical magazine that has published cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad - is under way.
Where have the rallies been taking place?
The Place de la République in Paris filled with people rallying in support of Mr Paty, 47. Mr Castex and Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo joined them.
The square was the scene of a huge demonstration in which 1.5 million people showed solidarity with Charlie Hebdo following the deadly attack of January 2015.
One protester on Sunday carried a sign reading "zero tolerance to all enemies of the Republic", another "I am a professor. I'm thinking of you, Samuel."
Image copyrightAFP

Image captionSamuel Paty, a well-liked teacher, had been threatened over showing the cartoons
Another told Le Figaro she was a French Muslim who was at the rally to express her disgust at the latest killing.
A minute's silence was followed by the playing of the Marseillaise. All the protesters were wearing masks to protect from coronavirus.
Mr Castex tweeted the rendition of the anthem, along with the words "you do not scare us... we are France!"

Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer said France would succeed in defeating the enemies of democracy if it were united and that all teachers in France needed support.
Nathalie, a teacher from Chelles who was at the Paris rally, told Le Monde she was there because she had "realised you can die of teaching".
In Lille, people carried banners and placards with the simple words "I am Samuel".

Thousands of people also gathered in Place Bellecour in Lyon to pay their respects, with another large turnout in Nantes.

Demonstrations are also being held in Toulouse, Strasbourg, Marseille, Bordeaux and elsewhere.

Image copyrightREUTERS

Image captionOne banner read: "They will not behead the Republic"
In addition to Sunday's demonstrations, there will be a national tribute paid to Mr Paty on Wednesday.

On Saturday, Tareq Oubrou, imam of a mosque in Bordeaux, told France Inter: "A civilisation does not kill an innocent person, barbarism does."
What happened on Friday?
Anti-terrorism prosecutor Jean-François Ricard said that the suspect, who lived in the Normandy town of Évreux, about 100km (60 miles) from the murder scene, went to Mr Paty's school in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine on Friday afternoon and asked students to point out the teacher.

Abdoulakh A, an 18-year-old born in Moscow of Chechen origin, had no apparent connection with the teacher or the school.

He followed Mr Paty as he walked home from work. The suspect used a knife to attack the teacher in the head, and then beheaded him.

Video captionJean-Michel Blanquer: "What happened is beyond words"
Witnesses are said to have heard the attacker shout "Allahu Akbar", or "God is Greatest".

As police approached him, he fired at them with an airgun. Officers returned fire, hitting him nine times. A 30cm-long (12in) blade was found close by.

Authorities said the man had been before courts but only on minor misdemeanour charges.

What's the latest in the investigation?
Mr Ricard said Mr Paty had been the target of threats since he showed the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad during a class about freedom of speech.

As he had done in similar lessons in recent years, Mr Paty, a history and geography teacher, advised Muslim students to look away if they thought they might be offended.

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A parent of one of the pupils reacted angrily, and went to the school to complain.

He and another man who accompanied him - Abdelhakim Sefrioui, a preacher and activist - made videos calling Mr Paty a "voyou" (thug) and demanding his suspension.

Mr Sefrioui has reportedly been known to French intelligence services for years. Both he and the father are now in custody.

France teacher attack: Rallies held to honour beheaded Samuel Paty

Samuel Paty was murdered after showing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in class.

www.bbc.com

It's good to see entire France is standing up against this barbarism .
But what I fear is Indians may also be at the receiving end of hate of europe if this continues.
Because a layman in european cant distinguish an Arab, a pakistani from an indian..they may thought a random indian in europe as a muslim.
Sikhs especially may have to deal with this problem more.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Do you know of cause and effect? What caused destabilization of Iraq? What caused destabilization of Libya? What caused destabilization of entire Middle East or Latin America or North Africa or West Africa? Then look at the effects of all these destabilizations which happens to include refugees and mass migration.

The destabilization of Iraq was caused by the Baath party which did not accept no longer being in power.
The destabilization of Syria is caused by the KSA/Iran conflict.
The destabilization in North Africa was caused by Tunisia which showed the rest of the Arab world that Arab states can become modern states. When it spread dictators responded with violence.

So you think Daesh are Arabs? Quite an interesting conspiracy theory you have right there.


Welcome back brother, good to see you.

Daesh coming from Europe are primarily of Arab ancestry but there are also Somalians and from former USSR republics.

 

[Microsoft]

The destabilization of Iraq was caused by the Baath party which did not accept no longer being in power.
The destabilization of Syria is caused by the KSA/Iran conflict.
The destabilization in North Africa was caused by Tunisia which showed the rest of the Arab world that Arab states can become modern states. When it spread dictators responded with violence.

And yet western countries were directly involved in all of these conflicts. For what reason?

Where were those WMDs in Iraq?
Whose forces were uninvited in Libya to overthrow Gaddafi?
Who holds a colonial vice grip over Africa and "mysteriously" makes vanish any ruler not under their thumb?