A post Islamic Iran will be more dangerous to Pakistan.

[Old School]

There is a western backed regime change process rapidly unfolding in Iran in the forms of targeted assassinations and color revolution. Our ties with Iran have been far from being on the same page since birth in 1947. Iran's foreign policies involving Afghanistan and India have not been in line with ours as these two neighbors in the east and west are the most strategically crucial factor for the very survival of the state of Pakistan.
The big question is if the Islamic regime falls in Iran and it is replaced by a pro West secular regime, how it is going to impact our strategic interests. Are we going to see an Iranian Modi in our western frontier?

 

[Haris Ali2140]

There is a western backed regime change process rapidly unfolding in Iran in the forms of targeted assassinations and color revolution. Our ties with Iran have been far from being on the same page since birth in 1947. Iran's foreign policies involving Afghanistan and India have not been in line with ours as these two neighbors in the east and west are the most strategically crucial factor for the very survival of the state of Pakistan.
The big question is if the Islamic regime falls in Iran and the it is replaced by a pro West secular regime, how it is going to impact our strategic interests. Are we going to see an Iranian Modi in our western frontier?

Yes. Three hot borders. Just imagine the situations.

 

[Ritual]

Wasn’t the Shah more balanced than the current ‘Islamic‘ regime?

 

[Old School]

Wasn’t the Shah more balanced than the current ‘Islamic‘ regime?

That was a cold war situation. The world has changed lot since then. Even USA left Shah high and dry in the end. A pro West Iran is more likely to be pro India than it is now.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I am Neutral because both are toxic for my country Iran as it is now is a trouble maker for us and facilitates our Enemy to the East, Recruits our countrymen to be used as canon fodder to benefits its own Geopolitical interests.

But i m still against an interventionist Regime change driven by foreign Invasion it will be disastrous for us and our economy. And not to mention western sponsored Government in Tehran will be even bigger threat to us than the current Iran.

Best case scenario for us and the wider world would be a domestic regime change by Moderate factions within the Iranian political setup (They do exist even) and they open up Iran. Iran was never supposed to be an enemy of ours even after the Islamic revolution Iran was a moderate state and was never hostile to us at least till the death of Ruhollah Khomenei (not counting their domestic struggles And Ruhollah Khomenei liked to keep a balance between left (moderates) and Hardliners. That changed the moment he died).

Iran today acts this way because of their own domestic power struggles. Hardliners and IRGC operate independently and wont let go of their expansionism. Current Moderates dont have the balls to stop them even though they have the presidency the ones that do are either exiled and under house arrests.

People like to make it a Shia Sunni thing from the start as far as Pakistan is concerned. Our Marde Mujahid Marde Haq The supposed Wahabhi was very close to Iran going as far as
Saying : "Khomeini is a symbol of Islamic insurgence" Praised him. Prayed behind him.

Supported Iran in Iran-Iraq War both politically and materially ignoring the pressure from US and Saudi Arabia. Openly criticized Saudis for killing of Iranian pilgrims during Hujj Riots.

This is what i posted in another thread you are right any western sponsored Regime change would be disastrous for us. Iranians need to get rid of Hardliners and open up.

 

[Uguduwa]

Post-Islamic Iran like pre-post-Islamic Iran wouldn't give a shit about Pakistan. You have nothing to worry about.

 

[Old School]

This is what i posted in another thread you are right any western sponsored Regime change would be disastrous for us. Iranians need to get rid of Hardliners and open up.

Secular Iranians are far more imperialists than the religious ones. Above all , the religious Iranians always take the Shia population in Pakistan into considerations which will become a non issue for secular Iranians.

 

[El Sidd]

Stop threatening Pakistan.

We give little shit to whoever you are and whatever your claim to fame might be.

 

[jamal18]

Pro-western Iran will house US forces in a future confrontation between the US and Pakistan.

 

[Old School]

Post-Islamic Iran like pre-post-Islamic Iran wouldn't give a shit about Pakistan. You have nothing to worry about.

Exactly ! That is why it is worrying. A person who wouldn't give a damn about his neighbor, is a dangerous neighbor indeed. Iran will never go back to the Shah era. It will head towards Natanyahu-Trump-Modi directions.

 

[Uguduwa]

Exactly ! That is why it is worrying. A person who wouldn't give a damn about his neighbor, is a dangerous neighbor indeed.

How? What's wrong with them minding their own business? In the worst case scenario they would concentrate on what's west of their border like the IRI regime does. It's about time for you to mind your own business and concentrate on economic development as well. In case you haven't realized, you guys are lagging behind badly.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

How? What's wrong with them minding their own business? In the worst case scenario they would concentrate on what's west of their border like the IRI regime does. It's about time for you to mind your own business and concentrate on economic development as well. In case you haven't realized, you guys are lagging behind badly.

It will be Afghanistan 2.0 for us.

 

[Philosopher]

Look it really depends. I would say, if Iranian system changes into a more Persian nationalistic one, the people that should be very worried are the Persian gulf arabs. Even though the current Iranian regime is no friend to the saudis, they still don't see the saudis as people as enemies (they see the saudi family as enemies), whereas a nationalistic Iranian regime will. Also, remember that a nationalistic Iranian regime will be very close to the Americans, West and the Israelis.

 

[Ritual]

That was a cold war situation. The world has changed lot since then. Even USA left Shah high and dry in the end. A pro West Iran is more likely to be pro India than it is now.

But I still don’t understand how anyone can be certain a ‘new’ Iran would be pro Western? What would Saudi think of that? They would worry that if that were to happen then a pro-West Iran would become the new ally and Saudi could be dumped. Similarly China & Russia would be enormously sidelined under a pro West Iran. In a multi polar world it could in many directions.

 

[StormBreaker]

Any regime change will cause serious civil war in Iran most probably which might tear it.