You seem to be obsessed with "racial" differences in Pakistan. I am sorry to inform you that migration and intermixing between ethnic groups inside Pakistan has been going on for a long time and has only accelerated after partition. Even Punjab and Sind have a number of folks that look Iranic. Caste and tribal division are more relevant to Hindus (especially in marriage), in our territories it was relevant back when we were ruled by the Brits but not anymore. This is a critical cultural difference between us and Indians that many ignore. Ethnic difference in Pakistan will disappear in a few generations due to migration, intermarriage, and common medias. Religious Pakistani diaspora in the west have no issues marrying Bangladeshi's. It would be unthinkable for a Gujrati Hindu to marry a Hindu Bengali unless they were both atheists.
Racial and ethnic affiliations and identity continue to be strong nonetheless.
In a population of 220 million, some intermarriage is not going to change that.
When someone says he's Baloch, is it because his dad is a Baloch or both his parents are?
Over here at least it's pretty common for people to be open about their ethnicity, so on that I agree that it's not as big a thing in your society as caste is in ours. Also I've heard senior members quite open if their parents or relatives are of different ethnicities.
Also I suspect you speak of urban Pakistan.
It's uncommon anywhere else in the world for an outsider boy to be allowed to marry a girl of a community.
I doubt whether Pakistan bucks that trend.
You make it sound like rock n roll Scandinavia.
And he's back again with the we are Iranian people of the Indus Valley story.
Chal ab bata bhi de.
The entire world has difficulty differentiating between blonde blue eyed Aryan race Iranics of the Indus Valley and we Gangetic 5 foot Dravidian descent street shitters. Perhaps this quality to differentiate is a very rare talent, not everybody has it, much like the ability to see ultraviolet light. Only sons of the Indus delta soil have this unique talent.
Also I'd like to hear how Urdu is a Turkish and Persian language, some even go so far as to say Urdu and Dari are dialects of each other. Any connection to Indo Aryan languages is a lie. Urdu grammar is TOTALLY the same as Turkish and certainly not Punjabi or Gujarati.
Loool get out of this weird wannabe obsession you have with being Huns, Sakhas, Greeks, Turks and Persian. You are through and through South Asian. Nothing to be ashamed of. Your cuisine, your architecture, your clothes, your customs all lie closely with South Asia. And by you I mean Pakistan as a whole.
P.S reality check the Indus valley civilisation was South Asian. Nothing Arab or Turkish about it.
I feel you. Your heart is in the right place.
At one time long ago I thought that their might be hope for for Indo-Pak peace and some sort of Kashmir settlement. At this time attitudes have hardened on both sides and peace is unlikely, especially with BJP hardliners.
The only possibility for a peaceful settlement in my opinion is that Kashmir me made into a neutral zone with some sort of shared Indo-Pak-Local Kashmiri joint administration. Neither side wins or loses in this arrangement. Pakistan pledges to reduce militancy and India removes its military and lock down of Kashmir. Water rights of the Indus river would remain as per the Indus river treaty.
This is a logical compromise, that massively reduces the risk of miscalculation and nuclear exchange (which is the primary flaw of status quo that India favors).....but not every one is logical. Hardliners on both sides will oppose any peace in my opinion.
Territory is territory. Especially to a sovereign nation.
There is no scenario under which India would share it's territory with Pakistan.
Especially given our fraught history.
Time is a great healer, mender.
Maybe in a hundred or two hundred years, if you have moved our of your islamic mindset and carved out a national identity, maybe there could be a rapprochement.
Maybe some form of a union.
But that would not be limited to Kashmir.
That would include Punjab and Sindh as well.
A political solution for Kashmir and lasting peace for India and Pakistan
A political solution for Palestine and lasting peace for Israel and Palestine
A political solution for Uighar and lasting peace for China and Turkey
A political solution for Rohingya and lasting peace for Burma and Bangladesh
IS never possible because it never be a POLITICAL it is always a RELIGIOUS WAR.
@jamahir this is the post of the thread.