A muslim man denied German citizenship for refusing to shake woman's hand

[truthfollower]

Yes, but you would cry when I would say that Idol-worshipping Hindus should leave Muslim Pakistan

@The Eagle
i don't know how he went from a Lebanese doctor not shaking hands with women in Germany to attack on peaceful Pakistani Hindus

 

[Vortex]

Since he has been a doctor for many years in Germany I presume that this has not been an issue.

If he needs to check a woman as part of his medical duties then he does it.

Shaking hands with a woman for citizenship is not required to carry out his professional duties and so he does not want to do it.

what you said could be (in)valid if we had full information.
We don’t know if he was handshaking before and now he don’t (anymore).

it happened I had a Jewish co worker. He never handshaked with men and women. He said us only “I never do handshaking” without giving us a reason.

We were shocked but that’s all. We never handshakes with him.

but now with the doctor, with the actual context of terrorism and salafism and what not, says I don’t handshaking to women for religious reason, is interpreted as a sign radicalism. And like it it or not, it is a good test for them.
And if the officer that day is a women you could understand that in their culture not handshaking women is.... [put here whatever you want].

 

[Iltutmish]

@The Eagle
i don't know how he went from a Lebanese doctor not shaking hands with women in Germany to attack on peaceful Pakistani Hindus

Chill, I was making a point. Hypocrites condemn the Muslim for not assimilating but at the same time they want to built Hindu temples everywhere in Pakistan. This doesn’t add up. I have no problem with Hindus being in Pakistan.

but now with the doctor, with the actual context of terrorism and salafism and what not, handshaking , like it it or not, is a good test for them.

What’s next? Headscarves? Beards? Saying alhamdulillah instead of thank god? Conservative Muslims are per definition terrorists now?

And if the officer that day is a women you could understand that in their culture not handshaking women is.... [put here whatever you want].

... a personal decision in what the State has no say.

 

[Vortex]

Chill, I was making a point. Hypocrites condemn the Muslim for not assimilating but at the same time they want to built Hindu temples everywhere in Pakistan. This doesn’t add up. I have no problem with Hindus being in Pakistan.

What’s next? Headscarves? Beards? Saying alhamdulillah instead of thank god? Conservative Muslims are per definition terrorists now?


... a personal decision in what the State has no say.

i didn’t receive a notification about your quotation so didn’t saw you message but I had updated my post before reading your reply.

 

[AViet]

Their culture. You don't like it? Don't try for citizenship.


Their country. Don't like it, don't go there.

So go teach Westerners who are living in China or Vietnam (or various countries in Asia), who hate Asia to the core but still trying to enter China because they cannot find a job for a decent life in their home country.

These f''king bastards, despite receiving a good standard of living thank to China (and perhaps their family too), immediately bad-mouth China as soon as they return to their country.

Double standard attitude exist in every race, but Anglo-Saxon people are the worst.

 

[Iltutmish]

Double standards attitude exist in every race, but Anglo-Saxon people are the worst.

Yes. My colleague lived and worked in Thailand for over 10 years, but he can’t speak one word of Thai and doesn’t even know the name of their former king who was really famous and popular there. They don’t integrate into society because they have a very transactional attitude towards them. Why can’t we have that too? It’s totally ok. I live and work here, speak their language, abide by the law and pay plenty of taxes. What do they want more? Everything else is covered by personal freedom guaranteed by the constitution.

 

[Cherub786]

Double standards attitude exist in every race, but Anglo-Saxon people are the worst.

I strongly disagree. Anglo-Saxons are good people, generally speaking. They are certainly preferable to East Asians, other Europeans especially the Muslim-hating French, and Hindus

 

[nahtanbob]

What’s next? Headscarves? Beards? Saying alhamdulillah instead of thank god? Conservative Muslims are per definition terrorists now?

Not all conservative Muslims are terrorists. do any of the "Muslim" terrorists have a liberal interpretation of Islam ?

 

[Cherub786]

Not all conservative Muslims are terrorists. do any of the "Muslim" terrorists have a liberal interpretation of Islam ?

Actually, modern "Islamic" terrorism has its roots in Syed Qutb, who was a modernist. His text Milestones is the manifesto of Takfiri terrorism. Syed Qutb and the original terrorists came out of the Muslim Brotherhood, another modernist movement. The modernist version of Islam challenges the authority and concepts taught by traditionalist and conservative Sunni Ulama.

 

[nahtanbob]

Actually, modern "Islamic" terrorism has its roots in Syed Qutb, who was a modernist. His text Milestones is the manifesto of Takfiri terrorism. Syed Qutb and the original terrorists came out of the Muslim Brotherhood, another modernist movement. The modernist version of Islam challenges the authority and concepts taught by traditionalist and conservative Sunni Ulama.

the counter argument to you is that the concept of terrorism is modern

 

[Iltutmish]

Not all conservative Muslims are terrorists. do any of the "Muslim" terrorists have a liberal interpretation of Islam ?

You will find religious nutjobs everywhere. I am also not a fan of what most Muslims do.

Guilt by association is not a thing civilized societies practice.

 

[lightoftruth]

Good for Germany.

 

[nahtanbob]

You will find religious nutjobs everywhere. I am also not a fan of what most Muslims do.

Guilt by association is not a thing civilized societies practice.

I am calling a spade a spade

 

[Dai Toruko]

It's crazy how someone can have the personal choice to dress as they want, or even remove their genitals, or get an abortion, but if a man respectfully declines shaking a woman's hand out of respect and loyalty towards his wife, he's villainized and told he cannot be a citizen. Where is the so-called tolerance?